Beastdrol Problems

[Needtogetaas]

So if you have to have your serums then you should do the right thing and use hcgenerate with it.

Enter Hcgenerate!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is HCGenerate?
HCGenerate is a natural testosterone booster that stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. It is totally legal while being the strongest over the counter PCT on the market today!
What is it used for?
· Post cycle therapy
· Stimulating sexual arousal
· Prevention of testosterone shutdown
. Natural muscle building cycles
Benefits of HCGenerate:
· helps prevent erectile disfunction
· keeps muscle gains higher
· assists liver function
· promotes better mood and feeling of well being
· prevents rapid reductions in IGF
· increases DHEA and free testosterone
· improves HDL
· totally legal
· no injections
. lowers shbg
.to name a few, however, this is not an all inclusive list of benefits!
HCGenerate:Supplement facts
Serving size: 5 capsules x 30 servings per container.
Fadogia Agrestis.................1000
Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....500
Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg
Vitamin E.......................200
LJ:100..........................100
Zinc............................7mg





The first Ingredient in Hcgenerate
Fadogia Agrestis.................1000

http://www.superhumanradio.com/research/Asian J Androl 2005 Fadogia agrestis.pdf

studies have show that it does in fact raise lh levels and testosterone levels. Not only this but be sure to check the feed back threads posted at the end so you can see its effects do work.


The second Ingredient
Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000

This is a cool one because it has been shown to
1. Promote healthy glucose levels and healthy sugar metabolism By assisting the pancreas in production of insulin.

Fenugreek supports healthy blood sugar levels
Fenugreek enters modern medicine

A few more interesting facts about Fenugreek is that it has shown to mimic testosterone by binding to the testosterone receptor sites and creating "testosterone like activity"

Just like nolva can bind to different receptors and "act like" and even "exhibit" estrogen "like activity" yet not lower the bodies estrogen at all well doing so or even suppress estrogen production. So can other things like testofen bind to and "act like" and "exhibit" testosterone "like activity" with out having any effect on test production its self what so ever.

So this works very well during pct when the bodies natural testosterone is low. Helping to prevent the lost of muscle that one gets when coming off of cycle.


The 3rd ingredient
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....500

3,4 divan has shown in multiple studies to have the highest binding affinity for SHBG of all lignans investigated thus far,Thus is lowers shbg and increases free test, and we threw in a huge dose of it.
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran
3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran; A Potent Testosterone Booster
Interaction of lignans with human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Lignans bind to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). The lignan with the highest binding affinity is (+/ )-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. In a double Stobbe condensation--without use of protecting groups--a wide variety of lignans with different substitution pattern in the aromatic and aliphatic part of the molecule was synthesized. These lignans were tested in a SHBG-binding assay which allowed to deduce the following relationship between structure and activity: 1) (+/-)-diastereoisomers are more active than meso compounds 2.) the 4-hydroxy-3-methoxy (guajacyl) substitution pattern in the aromatic part is most effective 3.) the activity increases with the decline in polarity of the aliphatic part of the molecule.


Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-) secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-) pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).


3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran also promote the secondary messenger nitric oxide (NO) by increasing its main enzyme eNOS (endothelial nitric oxide synthase). As NO is postulated to be one of the key triggers for muscle cell proliferation and growth while also promoting muscular pumps in the gym, this aspect of3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran leads to fuller muscles that you can see and feel, thus providing significant mental motivation.


4th Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg

Debated for years now. Some swear by it and some say its junk. A few studies have show that it raises test levels and some of disproved this as well. Studies do however show that it Heightens sexual arousal. And I believe this is more do to its Ability to Up regulate androgen/sex hormone receptors in the brain. So in other words it makes them respond better.

ScienceDirect - Journal of Ethnopharmacology : Effect of Tribulus terrestris on nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate-diaphorase activity and androgen receptors in rat brain

5th added Ingredient
Vitamin E.......................200

Many studies have shown the Zinc suplamentation can have an positive effect on Igf.

Furthermore we have all seen studies showing V-e's protective effect on Leydig cell steroidogenesis

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...bf2cc4ac924ab5

6th Add on is
LJ100
LJ100 Eurycoma longifolia extract
Study Indicates LJ100 Eurycoma longifolia extract Safely Promotes Anabolic Balance During Endurance Exercise :: News :: Natural and Nutritional Products Industry Center

About LJ 100®

LJ100® is a standardized, freeze-dried Eurycoma longifolia extract, containing 40% glycosaponins and 22% eurypeptides, a bioactive glycoprotein that is now clinically proven for its androgenic properties. LJ100® has undergone a patented BAT extraction process to capture 22% biologically active eurypeptides, proven in research to be responsible for increasing libido, improving sports performance, increasing fertility, and activating the enzymes that metabolize the various androgens.

Created by the original researchers at the Forest Research Institute of Malaysia (FRIM), University of Malaya, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, LJ100® (22% bioactive eurypeptides) has shown - in human clinical trials - an ability to increase DHEA and free testosterone, decrease Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), improve HDL, modulate cortisol, and increase IGF-1 level.



So its pretty apparent how Hcgenerate counteracts all Negative sides associated with the use of nolva and or clomid, and it the perfect complement for this pct using these drugs. For anyone thinking about using or who has used clomid/nolva for pct I highly recommend you take what I have said into account and add hcgenerate to the mix.

Why settle for the norm or just ok when you can go all the way and get the best of both worlds. IMO hcgenerat is the new "must have" for anyone who runs clomid or nolvadex.

 

[Needtogetaas]

No one wants to play with me :crying:

 

[luv2lift]

No one wants to play with me :crying:

HULK..... SMASH...... THREAD!!!!!!!

 

[imported_Skyling35]

No one wants to play with me :crying:

Im here Ive been sparring all night. What is gonna be the best way to deal with the extra estrogen? You would need an aromatase inhibitor like formesstane correct?

 

[Needtogetaas]

HULK..... SMASH...... THREAD!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O that was perfect bro. Good laugh

 

[Needtogetaas]

Im here Ive been sparring all night. What is gonna be the best way to deal with the extra estrogen? You would need an aromatase inhibitor like formesstane correct?

When it comes to after a beast cycle crushing estrogen is not what you want to do and nether is blocking it with clomid/nolva. I think a good mix of lowering it a bit, well blocking it is the best way to go. Along with raising lh,sex drive and lowering shbg. A nice synergistic mix is the best way to attack it. This is why I think that hcgenerate on cycle then unleashed/postycle/sustain alpha is great for pct on this one.

Now when it comes to having something on hand if estrogen/progesterone gets out of control telling some one to use clomid/nolva is a joke. My advice is for a beastdrol cycle have formatain on hand and hit it with that as soon as you think you nee it. Formastain works for both estrogen and progesterone and its been said that beastdrol may have some receptor cross over into progesterone receptors.

No matter what way you look at it in this case nolva/clomid is the wrong advice no if ands or buts about it. So I would advice anyone coming here to talk shit about the site better bring there a game. :tank:

 

[Needtogetaas]

And unlike other sites here on my site and on elite no ones getting banned for talking. Being a dick and acting like a jerk (except when I am in a bad mood lol) will get you banned. Not having a adult conversation. So buy all means if you can stump me please do so. If you have something you can teach me please do so. I am always always always willing to learn from any one.

No one is the know all be all. No one has all the answers.

 

[mikeflcn]

When it comes to after a beast cycle crushing estrogen is not what you want to do and nether is blocking it with clomid/nolva. I think a good mix of lowering it a bit, well blocking it is the best way to go. Along with raising lh,sex drive and lowering shbg. A nice synergistic mix is the best way to attack it. This is why I think that hcgenerate on cycle then unleashed/postycle/sustain alpha is great for pct on this one.

Now when it comes to having something on hand if estrogen/progesterone gets out of control telling some one to use clomid/nolva is a joke. My advice is for a beastdrol cycle have formatain on hand and hit it with that as soon as you think you nee it. Formastain works for both estrogen and progesterone and its been said that beastdrol may have some receptor cross over into progesterone receptors.

No matter what way you look at it in this case nolva/clomid is the wrong advice no if ands or buts about it. So I would advice anyone coming here to talk shit about the site better bring there a game. :tank:

Confused???

 

[imported_Skyling35]

Confused??? So what is your advise on perfect PCT for Beast to take and have on hand?

Not trying to be rude, but this is what he said he thought was best in the post you quoted.

I think a good mix of lowering it a bit, well blocking it is the best way to go. Along with raising lh,sex drive and lowering shbg. A nice synergistic mix is the best way to attack it. This is why I think that hcgenerate on cycle then unleashed/postycle/sustain alpha is great for pct on this one.

 

[Australian made]

Let me tell you something friend. Many many vets have hear do using other products other then what you are talking about.

You came into this thread/forum talking like some kind of a vet. Talking like you knew more then the avg person and also like there was no vets here.

Let me make it clear I'm the vet here and i am about to school you my friend. From the comments you made above you have clearly and utterly proven to any and everyone just how little you really know. You have proven that you are spewing out pre generated crap that you have heard said over and over at what ever whole you crawled out of.

1. You just said use a serum from gyno!!!!!! You have got to be kidding me????

2. You are sitting here saying beastdrol aka superdrol causes rebound gyno (which is true) and then telling him to use nolva/clomid HA HA lamo which also causes rebound gyno!!!.

Serums do not, I repeate do not lower estrogen. what is estrogen rebound? do you even know? The beastdrol since it has Dht activity will lower estrogen ( hence why a lot of people get the dry look and the dry joints well on it) and when you come off its likely the hormone loop will try to bounce back. This will cause a high level of estrogen. Your anser to this problem is a nolvadex/clomid? OMG thats just great!!!

So now he will go into pct and his estrogen levels will go up (not down) and ether nolva or clomid will yes act like estrogen and take up the recpeptors well using it. But once he comes of this he WILL STILL HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF ESTROGEN and nice fresh open receptors waiting to suck it all up.

Yes its is very common to see estrogen rebound after using nolva. So much so that its spoken of in almost every profile write up about it

Do you want a tissue princess?

You're right. I should have mentioned having an AI on hand as well to combat any gyno symptons which is probably more effective.

As for the pathetic attempt at insulting me Need2 you really need to try a little harder. Im trying to make people aware of the steriods they are putting in their body. Im 26, hardly a vet, but unlike the majority of your customers and I am no newbie. How many guys have bought Beastdrol off you and ran it alongside some other overpriced PH clone you were selling? Its like bobdybuilding.com in 2004 all over again. Kids taking Superdrol. You are promoting this. Not once have i seen on this site you telling people to at least wait until the age of 21 (not that this age means anything to anyone outside the USA). Not once have i ever seen you recommend someone buying a product that you don't sell on this site. You're a very unethical businessman.

Your products are a complete rip off and you know it.. You aren't on the same page as bulk nutrition or nutra planet or just about any other supplement supplier in the market. $48.99 for 5lb of whey protein? fuk me i really dont know why you have a single customer, why is the price so high??. $28.99 for a kilo of creatine mono? Again why such a high price? What a fucking joke.

What was so innovative about you repackaging Superdrol and calling it Beastdrol? Your products are very lame CLONES. Show me a single innovative product you thought up and desgined all by yourself, and i dont mean taking out one or two ingredients of anabolic pump and calling it something else.

Take Andrew732's cock out of your mouth and bring something to market knew other company has you fucking yank fraud.

Do me a favour, please please ban me so im never tempted to come back to this shit hole again. And for fucks sake get rid of the 14yr old kid designing your website and pay for a god damn web designer!

Love you
Aussie

 

[g_d789]

Do you want a tissue princess?

You're right. I should have mentioned having an AI on hand as well to combat any gyno symptons which is probably more effective.

As for the pathetic attempt at insulting me Need2 you really need to try a little harder. Im trying to make people aware of the steriods they are putting in their body. Im 26, hardly a vet, but unlike the majority of your customers and I am no newbie. How many guys have bought Beastdrol off you and ran it alongside some other overpriced PH clone you were selling? Its like bobdybuilding.com in 2004 all over again. Kids taking Superdrol. You are promoting this. Not once have i seen on this site you telling people to at least wait until the age of 21 (not that this age means anything to anyone outside the USA). Not once have i ever seen you recommend someone buying a product that you don't sell on this site. You're a very unethical businessman.

Your products are a complete rip off and you know it.. You aren't on the same page as bulk nutrition or nutra planet or just about any other supplement supplier in the market. $48.99 for 5lb of whey protein? fuk me i really dont know why you have a single customer, why is the price so high??. $28.99 for a kilo of creatine mono? Again why such a high price? What a fucking joke.

What was so innovative about you repackaging Superdrol and calling it Beastdrol? Your products are very lame CLONES. Show me a single innovative product you thought up and desgined all by yourself, and i dont mean taking out one or two ingredients of anabolic pump and calling it something else.

Take Andrew732's cock out of your mouth and bring something to market knew other company has you fucking yank fraud.

Do me a favour, please please ban me so im never tempted to come back to this shit hole again. And for fucks sake get rid of the 14yr old kid designing your website and pay for a god damn web designer!

Love you
Aussie

Why are you here all of the time if you do not support his products?

Need2 has said time and time again that beastdrol should be ran alone, and that all of his PHs are for 21+ only.

Lets see what the big guy has to say.

 

[imported_Skyling35]

Hard to believe some people can get so butt hurt like that. We tell people all the time you must be 21. If people do it anyway you cant stop them.

As for your remarks on the product, people are here and use them because its not the same, and they work. You can whine and complain and be naieve and think its all the same out there, but its just not true.

Dont act like an ass just because someone wants to prove you wrong.

Finally why are you even here if you thik the products are no good.

 

[Australian made]

cos i occassionally found a usefull thread. why is that hard to believe. It certainly wasnt the products. Know one can explain why they are so expensive.

Being proven wrong is no issue for me. Im a trader so i get proved wrong on a daily basis. When it comes to PCt proving me wrong isnt overly difficult. What i dont appreciate is the terrible advice being given to people on here which seems to go on unnoticed. and people wonder why ph's get banned...

 

[luv2lift]

FIGHTERS..return to your corner and come out swinging!!!

DING...DING!!!!:17:

 

[imported_Skyling35]

cos i occassionally found a usefull thread. why is that hard to believe. It certainly wasnt the products. Know one can explain why they are so expensive.

Being proven wrong is no issue for me. Im a trader so i get proved wrong on a daily basis. When it comes to PCt proving me wrong isnt overly difficult. What i dont appreciate is the terrible advice being given to people on here which seems to go on unnoticed. and people wonder why ph's get banned...

I dont see how you can say everything is overpriced. You mention the creatine, which a huge place is obviously going to be able to sell much cheaper due to simple volume. You said your a trader you should know that. As far as the protein its not 5lbs of bulk whey its a blend. and at 80 servings a bag I dont see it as overpriced when many other blends will get you less for the same money.

I just dont see how coming off as so inflammatory would do you any good.

I just dont see this bad advice thats being handed out everywhere. Im not saying there isnt some, but you will get a bit of bad advice any where and that includes from your doctor.

 

[luv2lift]

needto is good people- you don't like his shit! return it !

having a issue with his products or lifting, love or life- call him!

 

[Needtogetaas]

Hard to believe some people can get so butt hurt like that. We tell people all the time you must be 21. If people do it anyway you cant stop them.

As for your remarks on the product, people are here and use them because its not the same, and they work. You can whine and complain and be naieve and think its all the same out there, but its just not true.

Dont act like an ass just because someone wants to prove you wrong.

Finally why are you even here if you thik the products are no good.

You don't have to like any of the products or service to be a member of this site. The site is not all about products and service sold by us. We get people talking about other products all the time.
http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/...ps-out-there-have-you-been-impressed-why.html
http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/...upport-forum/2209-bcaa-eea-glutamine-use.html

http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/...forum/321-want-veins-dont-have-beastdrol.html

I found these threads in seconds. So you see there is always going to be some one who is going to say what ever they can against the company and site. You wil always have some one like this but as you can see it took 2 seconds to show them they are wrong. I am not going to ban him for anything other then calling names.

I have watched his threads and post for weeks and knew he did not like the company. If all I wanted was people who love the company here I would have banned him weeks ago. I know what is going on around me. I can see everything as it unfolds before it even happens. I knew from that start he was only here to get people to use some other company. O well so be it I am not that guy. I am not the guy who banned people for these reasons.

Start calling me names and shit like that then i might ban you. So lets at least keep it clean thank you.

Ok so you trully think your advice to use clomid and nolva is original on this site??? like your preaching something knew? like its not something already being talked about all the time here. SORRY YOU ARE DEAD WRONG BRO..... So for god sakes please don't act like you're some kind of savore of the people when you clearly are not.

48 for a 5lb bag of protein try 41 after discount. Try we ship the whole 5lb bag 3 day mail for free so its mor elike 35.00 for a 5lb bag of protein. Ya I think that is pretty cheap for a good tasting protein. You clearly have never atempted to once see what kind of deals we got. Your intentions on this forum from day one have been to attack me and the company. I give a 15% discount and free 3 days shipping as a standard and then a lot of times I give 20% or even 30% discounts along with buy 2 get 2 free deals. SO you clearly have no clue about this company and how we help our cutomers.

As for your cheap shot statement with the "You are promoting this. Not once have i seen on this site you telling people to at least wait until the age of 21" Sorry wrong again. I have said it over and over and over agiin. In fact I got off the phone with a guy just an hour ago asking how he could get his son some beastdrol and i told him "you cant" and I will not help you do so or give you advice".... Also I take it you have never even looked at our product page or a bottle of beastdrol!!!!!!

DISCONTINUED

2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol 10mg per pill
L-Carnintine L-Tartrate 500mgs per pill
90 capsules per container
What you to expect from Beastdrol.

100% results. Beastrol is a powerful product that commands respect. Strength gains with Beastrol are truly Amazing, and all the gains in size are lean and hard. Here at needtobuildmuscle.com we do not make up fake figures and tell you a magical number of lbs of muscle you will gain. What we will tell you is Beastdrol is one of the most powerful products on the market and you will see Amazng results no matter what your goal is.

Beastdrol Recommended use:

There are many factors to consider before determining what the correct dosage is per person. You want to get the maximum amount of results with the least amount of dosage. Here are some of the factors to consider. 1-3 tablets per day no longer then 4-6 weeks

• Weight
• What you are trying to achieve (Bulking or Cutting)
• Experience level – Have you taken certain products before
• How your body reacts to similar compounds
• Age – NOT ADVISED FOR UNDER 21

We advise the use of a liver care product like Unleashed, liver-care, liver-stable or milk thistle.

You will also want to plan out your Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) to protect your hard earned gains.

Primordial Performance is a leader in pct products.<<---- omfg look right on my product page a link to what???????? another supplement company telling people to use products that are not mine your fucking kidding me no way

warnings
For men only, not for use by women. This product is intended for adults only. Keep this product out of reach of children. Do not take this product if you are drug tested for any band substance.

If you have or have had a medical condition or are currently using prescription drugs consult your physician before using this product. Avoid this product if you have any previous history of medical dysfunction or disease, including but not limited to high blood pressure, heart, kidney, thyroid, or psychiatric disease, difficulty urinating, prostate enlargement, anxiety, depression, seizure disorder, or have had a stroke.

Do not exceed 6 weeks of continuous use of this product. In case of accidental overdose, contact a health care professional or poison control center immediately.

As with any dietary supplement, we recommend that you consult a physician before use
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."



Beastdrol right there on the product page. And again its written in big red letters on every single bottle of the product.

send a msg to one of our members
samsam1029

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when he asked me if he should use tren tfo a wile ago and said he had already bought it I told him do not use it and I will buy the product back from him. He gave the product to a much older friend and i gave him another product that was better for his age.

Go all over this forum and any forum I am on. I am telling people daily who are under 21 not to use these types of products. I cant catch them all but I do my 100% best and so does others on this forum. So again yet another lie you are trying to sling..


Now onto your other statment "Not once have i ever seen you recommend someone buying a product that you don't sell on this site". You're a very unethical businessman." you are kidding. I have been telling people to use all kinds of different sups from hundreds of different companies for over 5 years now. From orbitnutrition to supplementkingdom and then primordaleperformance as well as sarms search,rxhealth,Anabolic inavations (Ai cycle support is good said it hundreds of times) to many many other products and companies. Hundreds of thousands all over this site,elite.thesourcheck.com,rxmuscle,steroidology and many many other sites. Yes when I think I got a good product that is something some one is looking for or can help them I tell them about it. Any business owner would. I more then most also talk about other products and companies and am in no way thinking about making money when I give my advice. I been doing what I do for years and long before I owned a sup company. Sorry wrong again.

Any time you want me to pull up threads/post of me doing so from different sites accross the net please please I double dare you to call my bluff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Onto your next statment
"You aren't on the same page as bulk nutrition or nutra planet"

Damn right I'm not and I hope I never am. I don't want to be like them.

I dont want my about us page to say this
At NutraPlanet, we continually strive to offer you, our customers, the best prices and selection; with a level of service you desire and deserve. We are dedicated to serving your personal needs, but also strive to make a difference in the industry as a whole. We are a member of the NNFA (National Nutritional Foods Association) an organization that lobbies and fights for your health and supplement freedom.


But then my return policy to say things like this

• All problems with orders must be reported within 24 hours of receiving product
• No unauthorized returns
• No returns on opened or used merchandise
• Shipping charges WILL NOT be refunded
• Any damaged product must be received by us before any credits or product reshipment
• All returns are subject to a 25% restocking fee(except for damaged goods)
• For the safety of our customers, bulk powders are not returnable for exchanges, credits, or refunds under any circumstance

I want my about us to say this
About Us

At Need To Build Muscle INC. we believe in being much more than just another supplement company. The health and bodybuilding industry is already laden with product sellers, ingredient pushers, misleading advertisers and supplement companies of all shapes and sizes. Of course without advertising a company cannot survive, but at Need To Build Muscle we want that marketing to be word of mouth from satisfied customers, not just paid ads. We want to do much more than sell you products, we want you to become a convert of this fitness lifestyle and reach all of your goals no matter how ambitious they may be.

At the time that I founded Need To Build Muscle INC. I had guys like you and me in mind. Normal guys who wanted to lose lots of body fat and gain large amount of hard muscle. But my visions wasn’t just about bodybuilding and fitness, it was about people helping people. It was about the trust that you have for the guy spotting you during a personal record lift. Let’s face it, when the bar is stacked with plates and you are giving it your all, it takes another guy just like you to keep you safe and on track. In the gym we are all brothers, but the business end of it has become quite ugly, people helping people has become but a memory in the supplement industry. Companies are out to get rich quick and people who have a heart for others are almost impossible to come by. With the corporatization of Bodybuilding and our passion for fitness, the dollar has become more value than helping one another reach our goals. This is something that saddens me much.
I swore and oath when I created Need To Build Muscle INC. I, Nathan Chase intend to change all that is wrong with the industry and make a huge difference in people’s lives. I will care more for my customer’s health and wellbeing than their wallets, and I will earn each penny through satisfied return customers and not the smoke and mirrors used by other much larger companies. I promise to strive to be the best I can be for you, and go the extra mile, putting you first as a person with goals and passion for life, not thinking about a monetary reward until you are fully satisfied with your experience with me and my company. As I dreamed up, the business model for Need To Build Muscle I did so putting much more value on you, the breathing walking body in need of getting in shape, not on numbers and margins.

When you contact my expert support group through email or by phone, you will get much more than just a prompt customer service reply from a paid representative. You will get a warm greeting from somebody who cares about your needs and wants, somebody whose sole purpose is to help you reach your goals. Your emails and your calls are answered by someone who will treat you like a friend, somebody whom you would trust in the gym spotting you during your all-time personal record bench-press. Because that is the kind of guy I am, and I only surround myself with guys who are as dedicated to helping others as me. I not only want for Need To Build Muscle to be your favorite supplement company, but for me to become your friend and brother in iron. I care about you more than your wallet and I will do everything I can to make you happy, but if you are still not satisfied with me and my company then you can keep your money, because I will not accept a single dollar I haven’t earned.

I promise you I don’t just talk a good talk, I actually walk the righteous walk through the path of goodness. You’ll agree this is true once you start interacting with me and dealing with Need To Build Muscle INC. as a supplement company. We know you will find that we truly are good humble people who just want to help guys like you get in great shape and hopefully earn the right to feed our families in the process. Need To Buildmuscle INC. is nothing like any other Supplement company you have ever experienced before, because our foundation is rooted in helping others reach their goals first, before we ever think of a reward for ourselves .

I, Nathan Chase believe in these ideals very strongly, and I hope I can earn the chance to help change the lives of millions of people making not only the health and bodybuilding industry a better place, but maybe even the world. Until then, today is your day and I am here to help you.
I’m here for you brothers and sister of iron, just call and Need To Build Muscle INC. will be at your side.
CEO
Nathan chase

and back it up with policies like this
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And when I get called on it i will forever back it the fuck up like a man!!!!!




I want my customers to call my business and get some one who cares on the line some one who will spend 3 hours on the phone with them and not make a single sale. Like i did last night with one member who another member told to call me. Maybe he will chime in. He was a friend of "
instant.muscle"

instant.muscle's EliteFitness Profile

A freind of this member and his mom called me last night. We talked for hours and he kept saying i don't want to take up anymore of yout time. I said to both of them it was no problem and kept on speaking with him and his mother. I made no sale and she kept asking me "can't I take one of your fat burners?" and my anser every time was "you don't need it" Go ahead send the guy a msg people ask him to ask his freind about our phone conversation!!!!!! call my bullshit please!!!!!!

Your next statment

"What was so innovative about you repackaging Superdrol and calling it Beastdrol? Your products are very lame CLONES. Show me a single innovative product you thought up and desgined all by yourself, and i dont mean taking out one or two ingredients of anabolic pump and calling it something else.

Take Andrew732's cock out of your mouth and bring something to market knew other company has you fucking yank fraud."

LMAO My products are tested and they are made by a company who makes a lot of the products i bet you run around raving about to all your friends. Only when they make them for me I demand the best. I even flew down to there plant in texas because i am a life long friend and i made sure of it. Many people have used other products of the same kind and then used mine and for them the difference is night and day. I guess on this one I will have to let my customers do all the talking (of which they do a whole hell of a lot of)!!!! All over the net and I bets thats pissing a lot of people like you and your boss off. Tell him I said high lamo.

gear,need2slin,hcgenerate,on-guard coming out, the master key coming out soon,my protein bars???? hello great all natural alternative to other protein bars and I made that my self with no help from anyone. Yes I have people like andrew, nelson,russionstar,other members from many comunities,boards,sites and companies that I have brought together to help NTBM make good products and to help other people in the world. What is wrong with that. Its called networking and working as a team. I'll suck andrews dick all day. I love andrew he's a great guy so your comment about me liking him is childish to say the least. Why should I not like him? Why should I not treat him with respect and same with all the other people on the NTBM team. You think the owner of other companies did it all on there own? HA they make act like it. But some one helped them. Many people helped them and I bet half these people got left in the dust and forgotten about.

Ask anyone who works with me how i treat them. So well I get accused of sucking there dick I bet!!!!! Well so be it I like to treat my friends and team the best i can. I may not be perfect and i may miss the mark of what they expected once in a wile, but i try damn hard for them, my customers,and my friends.


You Mr Australian made have no Idea about me and what i am about. You only came here with a motive to talk shit and you didn't even have the decency to back up a single one of your claims. Just came to this forum from day one ready to use your dirty mouth to drop shit nuggets all over the place. Whipe the shit off your lips, clean yourself up. You look like a dumb monkey throwing the shit some other monkey handed you and sent you here to sling.

I back up everything I say and everything I want NTBM to be about with actions. Actions all over the net, on the phone,in pm's in emails, in everything I do and say my actions speak volumes and everything you said is proven wrong daily by my actions and what I do with people,for people, around people. These people are all over the place and they Know me. YOu Sir do not know me


Have a nice day!!!!!!!

 

[Needtogetaas]

Now i need o go mail out my customers orders. Which I do daily to make sure they get the 3 day I promise them. If not i give them free products. Just one more thing i do daily to let people know they mean a lot to me. Bye till I get back

 

[johnbbad]

Do you want a tissue princess?

You're right. I should have mentioned having an AI on hand as well to combat any gyno symptons which is probably more effective.

As for the pathetic attempt at insulting me Need2 you really need to try a little harder. Im trying to make people aware of the steriods they are putting in their body. Im 26, hardly a vet, but unlike the majority of your customers and I am no newbie. How many guys have bought Beastdrol off you and ran it alongside some other overpriced PH clone you were selling? Its like bobdybuilding.com in 2004 all over again. Kids taking Superdrol. You are promoting this. Not once have i seen on this site you telling people to at least wait until the age of 21 (not that this age means anything to anyone outside the USA). Not once have i ever seen you recommend someone buying a product that you don't sell on this site. You're a very unethical businessman.

Your products are a complete rip off and you know it.. You aren't on the same page as bulk nutrition or nutra planet or just about any other supplement supplier in the market. $48.99 for 5lb of whey protein? fuk me i really dont know why you have a single customer, why is the price so high??. $28.99 for a kilo of creatine mono? Again why such a high price? What a fucking joke.

What was so innovative about you repackaging Superdrol and calling it Beastdrol? Your products are very lame CLONES. Show me a single innovative product you thought up and desgined all by yourself, and i dont mean taking out one or two ingredients of anabolic pump and calling it something else.

Take Andrew732's cock out of your mouth and bring something to market knew other company has you fucking yank fraud.

Do me a favour, please please ban me so im never tempted to come back to this shit hole again. And for fucks sake get rid of the 14yr old kid designing your website and pay for a god damn web designer!

Love you
Aussie

Not speaking for need2. But for myself;there are much better ways of expressing yourself then embarrassing yourself with a temper tantrum.have some dignity. That's no way for a 26 year old to express them self's that sounded more like a 13 year old. Come on find a better way and and you will get a better response. Thoughs that don't care are just wasting good air and don't even deserve a response. Sorry to hear you are dissatisfied you waited an awful long time to say something that might be an issue for you,just an observation.

 

[imported_Skyling35]

Well needto said it much better than I could have.