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Lol wow, I've only ran one complete bwl Cycle and I'm half way into another. I had bloods done mid way into my last one. I've also given a bunch of my bros bwl and they all claim this stuff feels way different then their street shit gym rats give them. I'll stick with bwl as long as this shipping delay gets under control I have a Bro waiting on me.
 
Jzp87 said:
I think you are right man, I just can't help but post when he says some bs like he is. I mean new guys on here see that and hit him up for info when he has no clue how to even use gear. I just hate seeing people ran over, iv had guys ask for a source or a list for a source do I have it yes am I a rep that gives that info out no so I don't. I could come on here say I'm running so and so's gear and it's amazing who wouldn't believe me but would I do that without proof of it hell no and when rundmz comes on here acting like his god I will call him out all day long


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I think that Jpz87 needs to be thanked for ousting this troll/shill .....not sure what to call what he did to us!!!!!
THANKS!!! GOOD LOOKIN' OUT!!
.....As for Run, there has to be some forum rules that
been broken here!!!!?
 
swa2ggs said:
I think that Jpz87 needs to be thanked for ousting this troll/shill .....not sure what to call what he did to us!!!!!
THANKS!!! GOOD LOOKIN' OUT!!
.....As for Run, there has to be some forum rules that
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Chicago found the intro post. I think that's what broke this wide open. It is what reminded me of the PMs run sent me back then and I remember reading that intro too. JZP hasn't let up one bit. And Swaggs contributed some interesting info about what dudes plan was to skim us as BWL rep. Team effort. Gotta keep it real bros. This shit is no joke.
 
swa2ggs said:
I think that Jpz87 needs to be thanked for ousting this troll/shill .....not sure what to call what he did to us!!!!!
THANKS!!! GOOD LOOKIN' OUT!!
.....As for Run, there has to be some forum rules that
been broken here!!!!?
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No need to thank me man I'm just doing what's right. I was trying to call him out and got banned for a few days, when I came back I hit up Chicago and pointed out rundmz' first thread and he blasted him. I have respect for Chicago we have talked a few times and he seems like a cool dude. I want to thank you guys for helping me out with calling run out we all need to stick together when it comes to stuff like this
 
He violated the trust of a lot if people. Put others at risk. Lied about credibility.
He does not deserve another chance. And to the otger labs like basic and xeno, i hope this guys request for samples is denied.
He is a parasite trying to syphon off of good people and good labs.

This fool is no better than Def!
 
Jrbdallas said:
He violated the trust of a lot if people. Put others at risk. Lied about credibility.
He does not deserve another chance. And to the otger labs like basic and xeno, i hope this guys request for samples is denied.
He is a parasite trying to syphon off of good people and good labs.

This fool is no better than Def!
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Preach brother! I know I wouldn't want him to even have my email address let alone my actual address lol
 
Jzp87 said:
The sad thing is that's a lie as well! Tell me how he ran a cycle of bwls gear when he just got it a few weeks ago
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Well, I'm guessing he is on cycle and counting that. I don't really care anyway. I'm just glad he finally admitted he is the OP. That's huge in my book.
 
alphalife said:
Well, I'm guessing he is on cycle and counting that. I don't really care anyway. I'm just glad he finally admitted he is the OP. That's huge in my book.
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I feel you man, I mean his ex boyfriend I mean roommate used his account to get advice when he had a doctor living with him sounds out there to me but hey who knows right hahaha
 
If you have four hun posts in a month or so. Something is up. That dude was getting on my nerves . Nice job busting him.
 
Seve said:
If you have four hun posts in a month or so. Something is up. That dude was getting on my nerves . Nice job busting him.
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I have lots post s cuz I love this site. Im coming from elitefitness and other unmentionable forums this place is the best..plus tapatalk gets you hooked all day
 
wow, you look back at some of his posts..and he recommends a whole lot of sources, claiming they have good gear,and great service. Who needs that s hit.. Fukd up dude...this douchenugget needs the ban hammer..or just go disappear. Good catch on this one.
 
I knew that fool was full of shit the first fuckin day I saw that fuckin fake ass avatar, had my eye on him the whole time.... I tried getting my word in but time wasnt on my side to expose it but Jzp glad to see you keep it real, and the rest of you.. for those who know me know I call it out when the situation deems it and do so with no mercy, I dont know how the fuck I got sight of that thread so late but I would have enjoyed my short stay... lol im still laughing at how fucking determined he was in trying to convince those of all that horse shit...... people listen.... and this is not the first time this has been said now, In order to be a liar, you need to be a good liar, and a good liar is one who DOESNT fucking forget his lies, which this fucking shill was neither. Now check it out, I understand we all make mistakes and poor choices, (this doesnt go for rundmz) rather BWL. The decision of making this loud mouth fucking phony your rep speaks just as loud as his horse shit claims... the tactic of choosing such a fucking clown is obvious and apparent, on top of that needs to be noted that he was willingly chosen deliberately, by you when you in reality would be THE ONLY ONE that actually knew if these fucking bull shit claims were indeed true or not..... that my friend shows colors of yours you didnt want to reveal...... desperate move on wall street, anyone with even the slightest bit of self regard is going to think twice and question your agenda here....goals to earn trust not fuckin blow it.... just as it was said to his two fronting ass, brought this shit upon yourself. The photo alone doesn't just spell out fucking load of shit to you? Fuckin dude looks like hes made from play dough... whole situations fuckin embarrassing.... good luck.
 
Dang I missed a lot...

But I'm sure Z will come in and comment. BWL is a standup lab and so is the owner. I hope everything gets taken care of
 
rundmz7 said:
I wrote the intro, since then I have used BWL only. I have 3 cycles under my belt, 2 PH, 1 BWL.
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Then how are you saying PSL is g2g and Robo? You claimed you've used them in other threads....

Cmon man your givin my buddy Z issues already
 
Redam said:
Then how are you saying PSL is g2g and Robo? You claimed you've used them in other threads....

Cmon man your givin my buddy Z issues already
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He also gave isl a g2g, when I asked him if he used them "I had to ask in two different threads cause he knew he hadn't" he tells me his roommate had used them and he also had stacks of bloods to show. I don't see how his roommate used them when he said it was his roommate that posted wanting advice. I know everything he said was lie after lie but he could of lied smart hahahaha and no way that was him in his picture he even told people it was, if someone calls me out on my pictures or if I say I got bloods on something you better believe I'll have them to post.
 
Yeah Z was just too busy to realize that clown wasn't who he said he was which is unfortunate but hopefully does not hurt his business or affect his quality or speak on his plans to stay commited and competent. We all can imagine that kid was PMing or emailing Z with a salesman type string of lies and compliments and other BS so he was somehow able to wiggle his way into the bwl inner circle which hopefully has been corrected and future reps, if any, are stand up well known members.
 
BuryMeBig said:
I knew that fool was full of shit the first fuckin day I saw that fuckin fake ass avatar, had my eye on him the whole time.... I tried getting my word in but time wasnt on my side to expose it but Jzp glad to see you keep it real, and the rest of you.. for those who know me know I call it out when the situation deems it and do so with no mercy, I dont know how the fuck I got sight of that thread so late but I would have enjoyed my short stay... lol im still laughing at how fucking determined he was in trying to convince those of all that horse shit...... people listen.... and this is not the first time this has been said now, In order to be a liar, you need to be a good liar, and a good liar is one who DOESNT fucking forget his lies, which this fucking shill was neither. Now check it out, I understand we all make mistakes and poor choices, (this doesnt go for rundmz) rather BWL. The decision of making this loud mouth fucking phony your rep speaks just as loud as his horse shit claims... the tactic of choosing such a fucking clown is obvious and apparent, on top of that needs to be noted that he was willingly chosen deliberately, by you when you in reality would be THE ONLY ONE that actually knew if these fucking bull shit claims were indeed true or not..... that my friend shows colors of yours you didnt want to reveal...... desperate move on wall street, anyone with even the slightest bit of self regard is going to think twice and question your agenda here....goals to earn trust not fuckin blow it.... just as it was said to his two fronting ass, brought this shit upon yourself. The photo alone doesn't just spell out fucking load of shit to you? Fuckin dude looks like hes made from play dough... whole situations fuckin embarrassing.... good luck.
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Bro I wish you could of helped me put that joker in his place, you probably would of been better at it. I just didn't want to get banned for a few more days again lol so I took it easy. We all need to understand it's not that he was picked on but if you are going to rep these labs you can't lie and if you do you need to be called out, if I was a rep I'd be the first to tell you if it was good or not if the lab didn't like it hell don't put out shit gear.
 
This is a joke lol, run has pm'd me saying he has done a vast amount of cycles, saying he hasn't tried robo, isl a few others but he's tried zitexx, bwl, and psl.
This guy is a joke and a liar.
 
Jzp87 said:
Bro I wish you could of helped me put that joker in his place, you probably would of been better at it. I just didn't want to get banned for a few more days again lol so I took it easy. We all need to understand it's not that he was picked on but if you are going to rep these labs you can't lie and if you do you need to be called out, if I was a rep I'd be the first to tell you if it was good or not if the lab didn't like it hell don't put out shit gear.
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I don't understand why you got banned? Why would you get banned for exposing this phony guy?
 
No clue man I posted asking him questions then the next day i tried to login and it said the IP address has been blocked, I tried to get on using taptalk nothing waited a a day or two and I could login. I didn't ask anything out of the way or was I being that hateful so I don't know.
 
Wow missed this hole debate with BWL, placed an order but haven't heard anything from Z so I was sending run the pm's cause z inbox is full. good to know what's really going on thanks guys.
 
m_groove said:
Wow missed this hole debate with BWL, placed an order but haven't heard anything from Z so I was sending run the pm's cause z inbox is full. good to know what's really going on thanks guys.
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Dang man there's really no telling who that kid really is. I hope nothing major was said, if I were you I would ask him to delete y'all's convo and not email you anymore. He told so many lies about him and what he had done I wouldn't want him knowing my first name let alone info
 
Taurus said:
The bad thing is that he will come back with a new screen name.
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Ya if he hasn't already, I think everyone needs to slow down like these new guys hell im still new and I wouldn't disrespect some of these vets like these new guys are. I am not saying anything bad about post but they are racking up meaningless post and blowing up sources, I ain't telling you new guys what to do but just slow down stop expecting so much help out I mean dang don't ask for help without helping others. I absolutely hate being a dick but when I see these guys post I want to go off on them you will get respect when you have shown respect, some forums you would get your ass busted if you were new and talked as much shit as these guys
 
Thanks jzp I consider myself fairly new also, even thought I've been here around 8 month. But only give my input where I can help, and as you could see I don't have that many post, but when someone with such little time racks up so many then yes that is someone to keep an eye on.
 
m_groove said:
Thanks jzp I consider myself fairly new also, even thought I've been here around 8 month. But only give my input where I can help, and as you could see I don't have that many post, but when someone with such little time racks up so many then yes that is someone to keep an eye on.
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I'm the same way man, I'm not new to this game but I am new to this forum and guys have been here a lot longer than me so I don't fire off like I'm a pro. I just love and respect this sport and am here to help if I can
 
These kids honestly forget what they even post haha it's crazy! For example i was always skeptical of that taylor dauwe kid we actually got into it once bc he thinks he knows everything and sure enough i look today he was asking about first cycle advice end of February then in a more recent post said he stayed natural until 20 no prohormones or anything haha funny thing about it he just turned 20! But of course now he is a VIP and has a view on every lab bought from them all several times but was asking how much aromasin to run in his first cycle which he proposed to be 1.25 grams of test a week with dbol fucking hilarious only a couple months ago. Wow! Just goes to show you to be careful taking advice from anyone, I just suggested he let people know it's just his opinion from what he had read/heard not from personal experience but I'm sure it was his roommate posting haha I even asked him of he was also rundmz bc he is in med school too about to become another Doogie at age 20 fucking internet fantasy living trolls I tell you what!
 
rundmz7 said:
24, med student, BWL user only during my cycle.
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You are still LYING! In a post just 2 days ago, you said you were a PRE MED student (aka undergradudate). In a post A WEEK AGO, YOU SAID YOU WERE IN RESIDENCY (AKA already an MD).

Even when they ask you to come clean and re-introduce yourself, you continue to lie! You're a disgusting human being
 
Mr. Chicago said:
These kids honestly forget what they even post haha it's crazy! For example i was always skeptical of that taylor dauwe kid we actually got into it once bc he thinks he knows everything and sure enough i look today he was asking about first cycle advice end of February then in a more recent post said he stayed natural until 20 no prohormones or anything haha funny thing about it he just turned 20! But of course now he is a VIP and has a view on every lab bought from them all several times but was asking how much aromasin to run in his first cycle which he proposed to be 1.25 grams of test a week with dbol fucking hilarious only a couple months ago. Wow! Just goes to show you to be careful taking advice from anyone, I just suggested he let people know it's just his opinion from what he had read/heard not from personal experience but I'm sure it was his roommate posting haha I even asked him of he was also rundmz bc he is in med school too about to become another Doogie at age 20 fucking internet fantasy living trolls I tell you what!
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I called Taylor out a while back, saying he's a doctor and got info on all these labs telling people to pm him. He was blowing up the free samples. He's a joke just like run is, anyone that takes advice from him needs to hit up run to. these kids coming on here talking shit need to be put in their place
 
Thanks for this!! really just saved me some time, i saw "VIP" so i was going to ask him some questions about mix blends for my next run, but you saved me some breath.. well typing hahahah. Good guy watching out
 
What's fishy is Taylor is a vip who makes you a vip member? I got banned for calling out run who could of banned me? Who is suppose to kick these pos liars out?
 
Some guys seem to believe that a high post count brings prestige. Dont mean nothing. I could have 10,000 post and still be a dumb ass.
The key is reading what these hi posers say...eventually shit dont line up and they get called out backtracking stories. A lot of times misinformation is passed on which could fuck somebodys health up or as in recent cases, we get scammed. Im not down with that.....
 
Thats why cats like jz, NY and Mr. Chicago go on a rampage and call these cats out. I appreciate that. Its like street justice on the forum.
In the real world on the streets, posers are almost in the same group as snitches and the like......On the corner, these guys domes get Timaberland'd up
 
Ol.DirtyBastard said:
Thats why cats like jz, NY and Mr. Chicago go on a rampage and call these cats out. I appreciate that. Its like street justice on the forum.
In the real world on the streets, posers are almost in the same group as snitches and the like......On the corner, these guys domes get Timaberland'd up
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Bro I'm wearing tims right now. That's how I roll.. Deep
 
Ol.DirtyBastard said:
Thats why cats like jz, NY and Mr. Chicago go on a rampage and call these cats out. I appreciate that. Its like street justice on the forum.
In the real world on the streets, posers are almost in the same group as snitches and the like......On the corner, these guys domes get Timaberland'd up
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I'm new here but I got y'all's back for sure. I hope one day this is back to being a family like it was before not just everyone trying to get something!
 
Jzp87 said:
I'm new here but I got y'all's back for sure. I hope one day this is back to being a family like it was before not just everyone trying to get something!
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You have honor, bro
Back then, when DEVILMAN got scammed, we all pulled together and hooked him up with what we had. From that day forward Ive always been drawn to this board because we look out.
Glad its still rollin'
 
Jzp87 said:
I'm new here but I got y'all's back for sure. I hope one day this is back to being a family like it was before not just everyone trying to get something!
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As far as i can tell seems like you have great integrity, that would be great just one big family all working together helping each other out, if thats where we are headed, i fully support it and have you!
 
Strengthbyfaith11 said:
As far as i can tell seems like you have great integrity, that would be great just one big family all working together helping each other out, if thats where we are headed, i fully support it and have you!
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I like it here because other forums either have to many heavy hitters that don't put trust in anything or anyone so no sources can come on and the others are just fake. I like how I can get on here be myself and enjoy it, I'm not having to impress y'all with my stats and I don't have to know half of the forum to get respect. I would never give anyone advice I wasn't sure about, I might say well this is how I feel about it but I'm not sure but these dick riders will say anything to look cool. I have ran some bunk gear but I've ran more good gear than bunk so if I ever run something I don't feel is straight I'll tell you about it no matter who makes it, I for one ain't ever sucked a dick but I ain't going to start for some free gear or a rep spot. If I ever become a rep you better bet the gear will be solid and I ain't sucking them off hahaha
 
Jzp87 said:
I like it here because other forums either have to many heavy hitters that don't put trust in anything or anyone so no sources can come on and the others are just fake. I like how I can get on here be myself and enjoy it, I'm not having to impress y'all with my stats and I don't have to know half of the forum to get respect. I would never give anyone advice I wasn't sure about, I might say well this is how I feel about it but I'm not sure but these dick riders will say anything to look cool. I have ran some bunk gear but I've ran more good gear than bunk so if I ever run something I don't feel is straight I'll tell you about it no matter who makes it, I for one ain't ever sucked a dick but I ain't going to start for some free gear or a rep spot. If I ever become a rep you better bet the gear will be solid and I ain't sucking them off hahaha
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I mean thats how it should be!! people should take after that attitude, make a hell of a rep. Honestly is the best policy, just be yourself and you will be fine thats how i feel. Thanks for making this forum great man, glad i joined. I haven't had any extremely bunk gear yet so I'm hoping to keep it that way, rather people tell me the truth then just say stuff to get free samples
 
Strengthbyfaith11 said:
Hahahha ok thanks NY I'll just wait and see. Hope he's doing ok. Hate seeing labs go down hill
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Well the good ones stay.. Be your going see more pop up and die off.. Just nature of the beast.. What is it now fellas, 4 in last 6 months lol
 
Just understand the nature of the business .. Is not legal. This isn't Walmart.. Z is Trustworthy so far. Relax.. Lol I'm sure he knows exactly what he doing.
 
NY REBEL said:
Just understand the nature of the business .. Is not legal. This isn't Walmart.. Z is Trustworthy so far. Relax.. Lol I'm sure he knows exactly what he doing.
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Yea I now what you mean with this business, not worried cause I didn't send any funds I was just hoping I could catch the sale but guess not, but I'm still looking forward to try his gear.
 
Redam said:
Gotta be referred buddy. Make some friends and make a nice intro about yourself. Not in this thread or section thought
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Preach! Newbie got get learned up!
 
Platz said:
please let me know the BWL to do an order
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Let me give you a bone. Start by introducing yourself. Make your own thread.

Say hello. Give stats and intentions.
Be polite. Lots of assholes gere these days.
Seems like the asshole tree is in gull bloom.

Please don't just ask and beg for gear here. You gonna end up buying and injecting some cat piss.
 
^^^^^^ cat piss !! He's right they will see new guy and jump on it. Be careful brother. But its several good labs right here at your finger tips. Your in the right place.
 
Trying to get those cat like reflexes. And feline gains!
 
OTL said:
He doesn't work weekends so it'll be during the week when he contacts you.
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Me to its my fist order I've ran his gear gtg but I sent him my order and then I got a confirmation saying you got my order and then I sent him a email to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going an anyone else no how he does his billi to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going
 
I suggest you wait till bwl sends you the info so that you know for sure it will get to them. I'm also waiting for feed back give them some time.
 
This is something that should be kept between you and BW. Unless you haven't heard from him in weeks this stuff shouldn't be posted. He has been around a long time and is well trusted so you shouldn't call him out this soon. No offense to you brother, I'm just telling you what I learned in my 12 years on the boards
Wildthing78 said:
Me to its my fist order I've ran his gear gtg but I sent him my order and then I got a confirmation saying you got my order and then I sent him a email to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going an anyone else no how he does his billi to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going
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That's a long ass explanation just repeating itself over and over haha just be patient bro it's only been a couple days I'm sure and like people have said he takes the weekend to relax, can we blame him, so give him another day and I'm certain he will get back to you.
 
Wildthing78 said:
Me to its my fist order I've ran his gear gtg but I sent him my order and then I got a confirmation saying you got my order and then I sent him a email to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going an anyone else no how he does his billi to see about the payment and stuff so I put payment in subject I still haven't heard back to from all not been trying to couple different times I don't know where to send the money I'm going to send it money gram and I sent told him that on the email but I have no clue to what name or where it's going
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Dude...the answer is on the same page as your question....
OTL said:
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:confused:
 
Mr. Chicago said:
That's a long ass explanation just repeating itself over and over haha just be patient bro it's only been a couple days I'm sure and like people have said he takes the weekend to relax, can we blame him, so give him another day and I'm certain he will get back to you.
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Love it...
 
Ol.DirtyBastard said:
It can get tiresome for a vendor to get multiple emails on one order.
Then come on the board asking.....
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More like annoying.
I generally send one email, if I don't hear any back back after five days or so I'll send one more. If I don't hear anything a week after that, I start getting a little annoyed. Especially if I've sent payment already and hasn't been confirmed that it was received. But a couple days? Give it a little time bro.
 
TrenKing said:
More like annoying.
I generally send one email, if I don't hear any back back after five days or so I'll send one more. If I don't hear anything a week after that, I start getting a little annoyed. Especially if I've sent payment already and hasn't been confirmed that it was received. But a couple days? Give it a little time bro.
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That's the idea....
If it were me, I would get his stash to him and put him on my ignore list
 
Z28blak said:
Yes we are all emails have been replied to up to yesterday at noon




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I ordered 50 ml test e n got an email back conformation but it didn't tell me were or who I m to send it to I can't get ahold of anyone I no he's busy cause the sale but how do I pay
 
Wildthing78 said:
I ordered 50 ml test e n got an email back conformation but it didn't tell me were or who I m to send it to I can't get ahold of anyone I no he's busy cause the sale but how do I pay
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It's confusing never no had info of were to send a payment it's my first order ran the gear before liked it a lot I just want my gear not pay z for it
 
Don't really understand what your trying to say, but just hang tight man they will get to you in time. Z is a busy man have patience, & don't be so eager to get rid of your money .
 
Z does not work on the weekends. Im waiting for a conf. Email saying payment was received. But i know he will get back to you it may take 3 or 4 days. He is a busy man. But its worth the wait bro.
 
TreyG said:
Z does not work on the weekends. Im waiting for a conf. Email saying payment was received. But i know he will get back to you it may take 3 or 4 days. He is a busy man. But its worth the wait bro.
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Me too brother. I am with you, I have nothing but faith in Z
 
Wildthing78 said:
It's confusing never no had info of were to send a payment it's my first order ran the gear before liked it a lot I just want my gear not pay z for it
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It's not confusing we ask for you to confirm your order make sure no mistakes are made and then go from there so relax your email will get looked at today the more emails the longer my ass has to go through every message and see if any changes were made.


Sent from Black Widow headquarters
 
Good to have you back, will you be answering e-mails soon or just taking care of products that need to be shipped.
 
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