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Jesse87ray said:
What would be best for size 20bpm dbol or anadrol an are they the same compound?


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that's a good question both have their pros and cons but no they most definitely are not the same compounds, two totally different hormones however similar in their effects. I personally like dbol better just bc its a little less toxic or so ppl say. But I would say anadrol will make you bigger faster. Don't forget the majority of gains made with both these is going to be water weight and you won't keep most of it but still are great bulking agents. You will definitely need a ai on hand. But hey why not try both bc we have a dbol/anadrol oil mix that will definitely give you the desired results.
 
i20bpm said:
that's a good question both have their pros and cons but no they most definitely are not the same compounds, two totally different hormones however similar in their effects. I personally like dbol better just bc its a little less toxic or so ppl say. But I would say anadrol will make you bigger faster. Don't forget the majority of gains made with both these is going to be water weight and you won't keep most of it but still are great bulking agents. You will definitely need a ai on hand. But hey why not try both bc we have a dbol/anadrol oil mix that will definitely give you the desired results.
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Awesome that's the answer I was looking for, now those com paired to tren ace? On permanent gain after cycle of tren a


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And the faster not always the better I know, I have learned first hand the faster gains or fat loss the harder to keep it on or off


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Jesse87ray said:
Awesome that's the answer I was looking for, now those com paired to tren ace? On permanent gain after cycle of tren a


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Those don't compare to tren, their on opposite sides of the spectrum. Tren is used for cutting and dbol and anadrol are used for bulking. Tren won't make you huge, it will get you cut up and put your strength through the roof with some muscle mass gain. Let me add that tren is for advanced users only that are well into their 30's with countless cycles under their belt, it will shut you down hard meaning its harder to recover from after cycle.
 
Ok that sounds good, i can wait . Ok I'll get ready for a dbol cycle. What ai would you recommend I haven't had much exp with ai's.


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Well you guys are the real deal. Order arrived packing was great. Two things I am short one product. Could it have shipped separate? It was liquid oral 50ml. 2nd thing. It loOKs like my tne may have crashed. It is crystalized. Can I heat it up?. Thanks
 
Seve said:
Well you guys are the real deal. Order arrived packing was great. Two things I am short one product. Could it have shipped separate? It was liquid oral 50ml. 2nd thing. It loOKs like my tne may have crashed. It is crystalized. Can I heat it up?. Thanks
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You'll have to email support they can take care of that for you
 
Seve said:
Well you guys are the real deal. Order arrived packing was great. Two things I am short one product. Could it have shipped separate? It was liquid oral 50ml. 2nd thing. It loOKs like my tne may have crashed. It is crystalized. Can I heat it up?. Thanks
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But yes you can heat it up try a heating pad for a while
 
Jesse87ray said:
20bpm What company or how would I get some?


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That I can't answer but there's some chem companies on here but just look for the best rated one and try them out just choose wise bc some of those companies stuff is either underdosed or bunk but there are good ones
 
i20bpm said:
That I can't answer but there's some chem companies on here but just look for the best rated one and try them out just choose wise bc some of those companies stuff is either underdosed or bunk but there are good ones
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Awesome broham thank you.


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tenacious said:
fair enough. Maybe you can help me out with this then?
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/weird-pip-question-help-28859.html
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Was it from us? Sounds like bad technique maybe and massaging the area pinned is a big no no. You have to let the oil get broken down and dissolve in your muscle, massaging it can push the oil around widening the pocket of the oil in your muscle causing unnecessary pain. Massaging the inj. Site is just a bunch of broscience with no real science behind it. I have also heard of this happening with test c where it just didn't mesh well with certain users, idk maybe a biological factor after all we all have different chemistry and what may be fine to one person cab completely mess with someone else but the others I've seen switched to test e with no further problems so that may be the route you should take.
 
yup, it was from you. I read some stuff about people having problems with test e (not yours specifically, just test e in general), so I ordered some C from you guys on the 31st just in case I had issues. I paid on the 1st and started my cycle on the 2nd. I obviously ran into an issue and would love to keep the cycle going with the C, but haven't received it yet. That is why I asked for a p.m., I wanted to see if you could push my order through so I didn't have to miss a week. I have been dealing with customer service for the last few days and am not sure if I've gotten anywhere with them yet.

I don't make it a habit to massage after pinning but with the level of pain I was in I would have let my dog piss in my face if I thought it might help.

I have pinned test c in the past with no issues. I didn't change anything in my technique except heating the oil, which I've never done prior to this.
 
tenacious said:
yup, it was from you. I read some stuff about people having problems with test e (not yours specifically, just test e in general), so I ordered some C from you guys on the 31st just in case I had issues. I paid on the 1st and started my cycle on the 2nd. I obviously ran into an issue and would love to keep the cycle going with the C, but haven't received it yet. That is why I asked for a p.m., I wanted to see if you could push my order through so I didn't have to miss a week. I have been dealing with customer service for the last few days and am not sure if I've gotten anywhere with them yet.

I don't make it a habit to massage after pinning but with the level of pain I was in I would have let my dog piss in my face if I thought it might help.

I have pinned test c in the past with no issues. I didn't change anything in my technique except heating the oil, which I've never done prior to this.
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It gave me pretty good pip also. I cut it with some gso and that made it tolerable.
 
tenacious said:
yup, it was from you. I read some stuff about people having problems with test e (not yours specifically, just test e in general), so I ordered some C from you guys on the 31st just in case I had issues. I paid on the 1st and started my cycle on the 2nd. I obviously ran into an issue and would love to keep the cycle going with the C, but haven't received it yet. That is why I asked for a p.m., I wanted to see if you could push my order through so I didn't have to miss a week. I have been dealing with customer service for the last few days and am not sure if I've gotten anywhere with them yet.

I don't make it a habit to massage after pinning but with the level of pain I was in I would have let my dog piss in my face if I thought it might help.

I have pinned test c in the past with no issues. I didn't change anything in my technique except heating the oil, which I've never done prior to this.
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I can't do nothing with orders you'll have to email support for that I'm just a rep here
 
Hey guys i sent an order over this morning it said it would send me an email on what to do next in a few hours and i still havent recieved any emails tellin me how to finish my order do you all know what might have happened
 
nsane504 said:
Hey guys i sent an order over this morning it said it would send me an email on what to do next in a few hours and i still havent recieved any emails tellin me how to finish my order do you all know what might have happened
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We have a rule that 90% of the previous days orders have to be taken care of before we send payment info for the current day, you should have gotten it by now. It sucks that we have to delay it like that sometimes but it's the best way to make sure everyone gets what they paid for. I don't boast to often but I think we have to be in the top 5 sources out there as far as ta is concerned.
 
tenacious said:
yup, it was from you. I read some stuff about people having problems with test e (not yours specifically, just test e in general), so I ordered some C from you guys on the 31st just in case I had issues. I paid on the 1st and started my cycle on the 2nd. I obviously ran into an issue and would love to keep the cycle going with the C, but haven't received it yet. That is why I asked for a p.m., I wanted to see if you could push my order through so I didn't have to miss a week. I have been dealing with customer service for the last few days and am not sure if I've gotten anywhere with them yet.

I don't make it a habit to massage after pinning but with the level of pain I was in I would have let my dog piss in my face if I thought it might help.

I have pinned test c in the past with no issues. I didn't change anything in my technique except heating the oil, which I've never done prior to this.
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I would say it probably is the gear, but it's also you, some people get pip from our gear, if you read back a month or so a guy had a similar complaint. I hate when i have to say it because it feels like failure but you just may not be compatible with our product. Any source who says he has pip free gear is either a liar or doesn't know anything because what you learn pretty quick is that constantly you will get emails on the same day from the same batch saying both that it is the smoothest gear one guy has run in his life while the next guy says he is crippled by it. I'm sure it's not a bad batch or anything like that because if it were there would be guys all over this thread telling me about it, you can be sure on that. You can have 500 great transactions and get 20 good reviews but if you have 10 bad transactions you will get 15 bad reviews (figure out that frustrating ass math). The last test e batch was right around 200 vials or so and if you look we are out of test e right now, if it were a widespread problem we would definetly be hearing about it.
 
bigchief333 said:
We have a rule that 90% of the previous days orders have to be taken care of before we send payment info for the current day, you should have gotten it by now. It sucks that we have to delay it like that sometimes but it's the best way to make sure everyone gets what they paid for. I don't boast to often but I think we have to be in the top 5 sources out there as far as ta is concerned.
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Still no email brother it was early yesterday for a domestic angtropin kit for my wife and a masteron prop for me it said the order was sent and gave me a total but never emailed me instructions if you have any info on this let me know thankd
 
Express domestic is a good source run by good people. They have gone above and beyond to take care of board members. I have no doubt they will get to you as soon as they can.
 
nsane504 said:
Still no email brother it was early yesterday for a domestic angtropin kit for my wife and a masteron prop for me it said the order was sent and gave me a total but never emailed me instructions if you have any info on this let me know thankd
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Yeah he's a little backed up at the moment but everything will be taken care of
 
nsane504 said:
Still no email brother it was early yesterday for a domestic angtropin kit for my wife and a masteron prop for me it said the order was sent and gave me a total but never emailed me instructions if you have any info on this let me know thankd
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You definetly should have gotten it by now, we have all orders sent out so we started sending payment info at 5 a.m.
 
I'd like to say that I really do love this board, you can go back to the very beginning of the thread 214 pages ago and we never really did get grilled like most sources do. I don't think we did anything special I just think we slipped thru the cracks because dio was here and everyone seemed to have so much fun winding him up while we just never respond to that type of thing. I've always personally stayed conscious of that and treated this board a little special compared to others, to be fair we also had a soft spot for mg because they really treated us great also.

The point of that is that we are going private again next month, I will keep an account on here to take care of the private customers we have from this board and to be a part of the community in a way you really can't as a public source. We don't really need all of this business nor all of the exposure nor all of the liars, scammers and whiners that seem to spawn from some but especially one of the other review boards. IT"s amazing to me how great and respectful the members here are for having such a high concentration of newer members and guys newer to the aas game. I really think we and especially the vets here do a great job of leading them in the right direction with respect to the way they should act and research. We are planning on bringing one section of our business back for public business in the spring sometime, Gh brings a different level of more experienced customer as well as not having to worry about manufacturing and all the supplies that comes with that part of the business so we are in negotiations to become our sources exclusive angtropin and hcg distributor. Any of our current customers who found us here and have been doing business with us over the last 6 months can still use us just the same as always, you will just have to tell us who you are adn that you are from this board, starting in march sometime we will no longer be taking any new clients who have never used us before.

On a final note I am very proud of the cs work Me and our rep have been doing here all this time, over 200 pages, over 2000 comments and over 20000 views and only one unsatisfied customer. It's like that on every board we are on except one with one legitimate bad review and six more bad reviews written by 2 or 3 guys with 2 or 3 seperate accounts because we would not break to their free or extra product demands. That is a pretty good note to go private on
 
also, of course none of that will effect the packs for the couple of sl guys, one should go out tomorrow or friday and the other will go out the second the tren gets in.
 
Chief I got nothing but respect for you brotha you have been extremely professional and answer emails at all hours. all orders I put in with you were taken care of in a timely manner and I think I speak for most when I say the product is top notch
 
Chief, been on this forum a few months now just not as active as others are. Glad to see that business has been well for you. Enough so that you will be going private. I'd like to make it on that list before you do so. Curious as to whether you have a post count requirement and if so what the process is for adding new customers once you go private.
 
i20bpm said:
Read through the posts and you can see for yourself how many ppl are satisfied
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Hey 120 or bigchief ive made several attempts to try and order no one ever sent me payment info after after completing it on the website and its been two days i really needed the gh kit this week so what do i need to do to get my order finished i really need to get it here and im not sure if im doing somethin wrong or if thr order just got looked over if someone would please help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
 
nsane504 said:
Hey 120 or bigchief ive made several attempts to try and order no one ever sent me payment info after after completing it on the website and its been two days i really needed the gh kit this week so what do i need to do to get my order finished i really need to get it here and im not sure if im doing somethin wrong or if thr order just got looked over if someone would please help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
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Sounds like maybe your doing something wrong, all I can say is email support and discuss it with them and hopefully they can figure it out for you.
 
The site changed to expressdomestic2.com ? I started reading from the origional post and the site didn't work without the 2
Chief I send you a pm and reg email to the order email for Infos.
 
I read something about 20 % off till 2/15. Is that so chief ? Or was I raading another sources thread. I'm Aniya to hit a first order to test out. Thank you in advance. Do you have orals
 
MMonster said:
I read something about 20 % off till 2/15. Is that so chief ? Or was I raading another sources thread. I'm Aniya to hit a first order to test out. Thank you in advance. Do you have orals
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I believe you were reading someone else thread and yes we have liquid orals
 
EXPD you have awesome gear the best in a long time. I'll be putting a order in with in this weekend and can't wait to get it. Top notch quality gear thank you chief and i20bpm I look forward to getting my next order in and on it's way


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Jesse87ray said:
EXPD you have awesome gear the best in a long time. I'll be putting a order in with in this weekend and can't wait to get it. Top notch quality gear thank you chief and i20bpm I look forward to getting my next order in and on it's way


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Thanks for the compliments man glad you are satisfied
 
Hope you guys are having a good weekend, its Sunday so get ready for another week, hopefully you guys are killing it in the gym
 
New to theforum. Checked these guys out and I want to make my first order anybody got a good recommendation for a good first cycle. Nothing crazy just a good basic first cycle. Thanx
 
aaron88 said:
New to theforum. Checked these guys out and I want to make my first order anybody got a good recommendation for a good first cycle. Nothing crazy just a good basic first cycle. Thanx
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This will be your first cycle? Make sure you do your research, ask questions. There's a ton of good info and good guys here.
 
aaron88 said:
New to theforum. Checked these guys out and I want to make my first order anybody got a good recommendation for a good first cycle. Nothing crazy just a good basic first cycle. Thanx
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First cycles always are strictly test only cycles, most do a 8-10 week cycle of test e at 500 mgs a week split between two days usually Monday and Friday.
 
If you do order from dom x you may want to pick up some provion from these guys, or make sure you look into something to keep your estrogen in check.
 
What's the best to min the estrogen. Or do is there any product that they carry that will give good gains with no conversion. I heard deca was good for newbies. Express told me they don't carry the estrogen blockers. What's a good site to get one from. Sorry for so many questions but it took me a while to find a good source of legit info. Everyone here for the most part seems helpful. Thanx again.
 
aaron88 said:
What's the best to min the estrogen. Or do is there any product that they carry that will give good gains with no conversion. I heard deca was good for newbies. Express told me they don't carry the estrogen blockers. What's a good site to get one from. Sorry for so many questions but it took me a while to find a good source of legit info. Everyone here for the most part seems helpful. Thanx again.
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Deca isn't good for newbies idk who told you that but don't take anymore cycle advice from them plus deca does convert, masteron doesn't convert and in fact acts like a anti estrogen to a lesser extent but is not recommended for a first cycle. Arimidex is probably the best on cycle estrogen support for you.
 
Thanx again for the info. Are the liquid orals at express any good. Which is better to use oral or injection? So pretty much order some test,provion, and look for a good source to get some arimedex. This is a he'll of a better start then anyone else was gonna give. Much appreciated
 
aaron88 said:
Thanx again for the info. Are the liquid orals at express any good. Which is better to use oral or injection? So pretty much order some test,provion, and look for a good source to get some arimedex. This is a he'll of a better start then anyone else was gonna give. Much appreciated
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Everything is good and that just comes down to personal preference between injectable or oral
 
You may be able to use the provion for ai it also increases free test and libido, but pick up something before you start. I thought on my first cycle if I had est issues I would just get some, well my order was jacked up and my ankles sole like a pregnant broad. Maximum peptides has them cheap and they are quick, and part no min order. Also you want to run provi at at least 50mg a day. One last thing pick up some test prop to kick start your cycle. express domestic was great to deal with, pull the trigger.
 
Seve said:
You may be able to use the provion for ai it also increases free test and libido, but pick up something before you start. I thought on my first cycle if I had est issues I would just get some, well my order was jacked up and my ankles sole like a pregnant broad. Maximum peptides has them cheap and they are quick, and part no min order. Also you want to run provi at at least 50mg a day. One last thing pick up some test prop to kick start your cycle. express domestic was great to deal with, pull the trigger.
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You cannot use proviron as an ai and this is his first cycle so you don't want to shut himself totally down on it.
 
Seve said:
People keep telling me to run it as an A.I. besides libido what would be the purpose of running it?
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If someone telling you to use proviron as ai don't ever listen to them again. The only reason ppl run proviron on cycle is bc it lower shbg, that's the hormone responsible for binding up all our useable testosterone and when you unbinds it in conjunction with aas it dramatically increases useable testosterone levels in turn making you bigger and stronger than with just test alone.
 
I guess not. I am not speaking from experience. I do know you will be good to go running test and some A.I.. There is tons of great info available here just look around.
 
Well I just placed an order for the test meth and some provision. Did some quick reading on it and thought it would be good for what you just said. Just looking for a good source to get some of the estrogen blocker. 1Napsgear any good
 
Yay I was reading up on it and just placed an order for the provision and the test from express. Now just trying to find the e blocker.
 
No naps it international anyways. Maximum peptides was good to me, cheap and fast. You may want to listen to the outher guys they are more experienced than I.
 
aaron88 said:
Turned 31 in october
. Been trying to get legit source for years now. Guess I finally found it
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I have always been weird about online ordering, especially things of this nature but this is a gtg forum period! When it comes to service and great people the cheif and his team are top notch!There are other good sources but when icomes to patiece and great people they are in my top three and with lab results and the build to prove it, good place to start and to stay, express domestic rocks brother!
 
Yay it seems that way. Just placed my first order with them an hour ago and I'm waiting for a reply. Can't wait to start that first cycle. Tried a few prohormone but never the real stuff.
 
richiquick79 said:
I have always been weird about online ordering, especially things of this nature but this is a gtg forum period! When it comes to service and great people the cheif and his team are top notch!There are other good sources but when icomes to patiece and great people they are in my top three and with lab results and the build to prove it, good place to start and to stay, express domestic rocks brother!
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Thanks for the compliments bro you know we work hard
 
aaron88 said:
Yay it seems that way. Just placed my first order with them an hour ago and I'm waiting for a reply. Can't wait to start that first cycle. Tried a few prohormone but never the real stuff.
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I can promise you this these gys actually care! Strange since they could make more money selling us whatever, I'm on my first test cycle to, a month in with crazy gains, of course my next one will be bigger, but I've learned alot, and ten pounds is alot of muscle brother lol. Follow them and you can't go wrong, your next cycle go a little bigger or not, you may be surprised what a test cycle can do. In my humble opinion, I'm not a rep for the guys but I love their products and personal. I just purchased a different product and sent more then I ever thought I would but I can sleep easy knowing I'm dealing with professionals who wouldn't endanger me or their reputation for a few hundred bucks. You put your trust in a solid source, like me, you got lucky there are bad people and scammers out there, who don't care about sides or infection, underdosed gear as long as they get paid! Rock with this board and you'll find a safe home!
 
Sounds good to me. Gonna try to pace myself with the cycle but I'm sure once I start I'm gonna be hooked. If it's as good as you guys say it is I'm sure I'm gonna be pleased. Yay so far dealing with these guys has been great. Very helpful and very knowledgeable about this shot. I would have been fucked if I went some where else.
 
aaron88 said:
Sounds good to me. Gonna try to pace myself with the cycle but I'm sure once I start I'm gonna be hooked. If it's as good as you guys say it is I'm sure I'm gonna be pleased. Yay so far dealing with these guys has been great. Very helpful and very knowledgeable about this shot. I would have been fucked if I went some where else.
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Lol ill tell you this, express domestic was where I placed my first order and my last just today! I have orders from other sources on here for things they don't carry and they were awesome as well. Evolution rocks, but the guys have always been there for advice for me and I have never waited more then four days for anything from them! I have a huge workout team and every source i have dealt with here is awesome but ed2 are my personal favorites for price, speed and quality, not to me too I a pain in the ass and they still humor me, so for that they get 6 stars lol
 
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