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[BuryMeBig]

I dont care why you got banned, I dont flow to the drama brother... I stay out of it... this, by all means is not drama.... WHAT YOPU TURN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE INTO... IS DRAMA... But So since you know them all (the mods here).... THAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SELL BAD GEAR?! SINCE YOU KNOW THEM YOU SUDDENLY KNOW SHIT? AND YOUE GEAR IS MAGICALLY OKAY TO PIN FOR ITS BEEN FILTERED CORRECTLY ALL OF A SUDDEN AND DOESNT YIELD THE RISK OF HOSPITALIZING SOMEONE?! I SPEAK FOR THE SAKE OF US ALL... the last thing the people in the AAS's world need is a clown to add more to what rap we have as it is.... Gets better and better... ladies and gentlemen, if that guys true character and true intentions are not recognized by what hes stating here.... god dam..... god be with you.

 

[krazieone56]

I dont care why you got banned, I dont flow to the drama brother... I stay out of it... this, by all means is not drama.... WHAT YOPU TURN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE INTO... IS DRAMA... But So since you know them all (the mods here).... THAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SELL BAD GEAR?! SINCE YOU KNOW THEM YOU SUDDENLY KNOW SHIT? AND YOUE GEAR IS MAGICALLY OKAY TO PIN FOR ITS BEEN FILTERED CORRECTLY ALL OF A SUDDEN AND DOESNT YIELD THE RISK OF HOSPITALIZING SOMEONE?! I SPEAK FOR THE SAKE OF US ALL... the last thing the people in the AAS's world need is a clown to add more to what rap we have as it is.... Gets better and better... ladies and gentlemen, if that guys true character and true intentions are not recognized by what hes stating here.... god dam..... god be with you.

Hey. Why don't you say it five more times bud. Man you sound a lot like devil dog. He was the same way very repetitive. U have issues dude u really do.

 

[BuryMeBig]

im not a hater bro. I actually liked you.... but you take shit the wrong way bud.... personally.... I was not trying to fucking attack your character at all but I know you, you think everrryone is, some how every time too haha dam man... stressful life its got to be brother... sorry you had to turn it into this man... didnt intend on it but had a feeling... ill always say I appreciate the source you gave me, I very much do... but not how you talk to me brother.... learn to be humble...

 

[krazieone56]

im not a hater bro. I actually liked you.... but you take shit the wrong way bud.... personally.... I was not trying to fucking attack your character at all but I know you, you think everrryone is, some how every time too haha dam man... stressful life its got to be brother... sorry you had to turn it into this man... didnt intend on it but had a feeling... ill always say I appreciate the source you gave me, I very much do... but not how you talk to me brother.... learn to be humble...

You have done nothing but attack my character. And I'll talk however I like. I don't owe you shit. Quit trying to puff ur chest. I give a shit. Be gone.

 

[BuryMeBig]

yep....Im devildawg Kraize.... its me brother... signing out. good luck man.

 

[krazieone56]

yep....Im devildawg Kraize.... its me brother... signing out. good luck man.

That's what I thought.

 

[kai1432]

Too much heat right here.

 

[Brewster]

For what it's worth, I pointed out way back in this thread that PES filters shouldn't be used for brewing AAS

Pvdf, nylon are fine unless getting exotic with solvents... Ptfe is the absolute best all round for compatibility...

It's not just the filter material you need to worry about, it's also the housing material on some of these bottle tops, polystyrene most of them are, and that's not compatible with most solvents

If one is producing for resale, then bottle tops are a very amateur way of going about it, much better and more compatible methods available

 

[Warrior Saint]

I use PVDF, always have.

 

[krazieone56]

Fine then let's see some literature on this. Because after hearing this I looked all over. And I found nothing even the company who makes these it says nothing. So how bout all Mr know it alls post up some proof. Cause I can't find any.

 

[Brewster]

You couldn't have looked very hard... This was on the first page of a Google search....


http://www.membranefilter.in/technical-info

That shows PES not compatible with BA or BB

 

[krazieone56]

That's a specific companies printout for their products. It says nothing about roush auto fill.

 

[krazieone56]

Not to mention it says after being exposed for three days. In other words after three days the solvents probly ate thru the housing of the receiver.

 

[Brewster]

You can't be serious? The material is all the same Ffs!!

It's ok to be wrong occasionly krazy, you let your ego get in the way that's your problem.

Fact remains, you're using unfit filters for the job at hand, that is all.

No doubt you will come back with some form of insult though as always, I've done my bit, the info is there for people to make up their own minds.

Peace

 

[krazieone56]

Lol I don't need to insult. I wanna see where it says that specifically. And u can't show me.

 

[krazieone56]

Because if its true a lot of the people who do what I do would also be wrong. The same people who told me about these filters.

 

[krazieone56]

I even just went to the website of the manufacturers of this filter it says not one word about what ur saying. Can u explain this?

 

[jaybird1120]

I don't wanna fuel the fire and being a newbie myself but what I think Brewster is stating is that it doesn't matter what brand you're using its the membrane the filter is made of that is incompatible (example PES membrane) being bb and ba is known to cause damage to PES membrane no matter what brand... Again I'm not trying to step on anybody's toes


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[krazieone56]

I don't wanna fuel the fire and being a newbie myself but what I think Brewster is stating is that it doesn't matter what brand you're using its the membrane the filter is made of that is incompatible (example PES membrane) being bb and ba is known to cause damage to PES membrane no matter what brand... Again I'm not trying to step on anybody's toes


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I got that. But what they mean by incompatible is the fact that it will eat the receiver if stored. Which I don't do I filter and its removed from that receive withing five minutes. Its not saying that it doesn't filter properly. I'm asking for some real info here. I been looking all morning. I'm about to call the actual company. Because if it truly is not filtering properly then. Obviously I would switch but everyone. I mean everyone I know uses these filters. If it were truly unsafe we would have heard sometjing by now. I inject the products I make every 3 days. A gram a week of each product. Don't u think by now I would have had an issue or is it just magic. Cmon. I want some real data otherwise its just opinion

 

[Brewster]

I got that. But what they mean by incompatible is the fact that it will eat the receiver if stored. Which I don't do I filter and its removed from that receive withing five minutes. Its not saying that it doesn't filter properly. I'm asking for some real info here. I been looking all morning. I'm about to call the actual company. Because if it truly is not filtering properly then. Obviously I would switch but everyone. I mean everyone I know uses these filters. If it were truly unsafe we would have heard sometjing by now. I inject the products I make every 3 days. A gram a week of each product. Don't u think by now I would have had an issue or is it just magic. Cmon. I want some real data otherwise its just opinion

That's not what it's saying at all, it even list the reciever material separately....

Clutching at straws now crazy, ring the company. Or better yet, put some straight bb into the top of a bottle top filter and let it sit for a while

 

[krazieone56]

That's not what it's saying at all, it even list the reciever material separately....

Clutching at straws now crazy, ring the company. Or better yet, put some straight bb into the top of a bottle top filter and let it sit for a while

What would that prove?

Why not call the company?

Idk this all seems a bit like here say. I wanna see where it specifically says all this. Not some random chart. Like real data real warnings.

I'm more than happy to switch but I wanna see something real. Not your personal opinion and u still havnt provided it.

 

[krazieone56]

I have even scoured the two sites I buy from. Not a word about this. Strange

 

[Brewster]

It would prove that BB eats PES quite quickly, trust me, I've tried it. Yes straight BB will do it quicker than if it was only 10-20% in an oily solution but that's not the point. They're not compatible

Ring them then, make sure you report back.

Again, all my info is put out there to help others, that's what this thread is all about after all

 

[krazieone56]

Well I mean either way the diff in price on a pes filter and a the others is a few dollars so switching isn't really an issue

 

[biggamestop]

Which ones filter the fastest and safest? That really the bottom line here.


BGS Brewz

 

[krazieone56]

Speed is not relative. As .22 no matter the brand flows the same.

 

[Brewster]

Also the burden is not on me to find the info for you. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you sell your finished products to members on this very board? I pointed out one source of info of a quick google search, the rest is up to you. Whether you choose to research me is obviously your call.

I'm surprised your still using this method anyway tbh... There are lots of better, more efficient ways when producing quantities for resale, especially if you have a proper autoclave. Even then, using one of these requires some knowledge and attention to detail, What type do you have? Type B, Or N?

 

[krazieone56]

You must not be around much lol. I sell quite a bit here. And have great reviews.

 

[BuryMeBig]

lol Kraize are you kidding me? come on now, you think these charts are brand specific? Your in denial bud, i've been in this game for much to long bud to sit and argue with this shit, I said something because I was concerned, and Kraize listen bud, I dont give a fuck... if you're, you're "own man" alright... But I do care for the fact that the people hitting your god dam gear are reliant on you, someone thats so god dam ignorant and naive, and on top of that irresponsible... im not trying to sit here and compare who's what... I told you I leave that for the stage bud... I tried to tell you and you weren't even so much open to fact to fucking look into instead wasted a bunch of my time making yourself look like even more of a fool. PES membrane is PES MEMBRANE AND THEY ARE ALL MANUFACTURED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF BEING ABLE TO SAY THEY ARE OF THE SAME. A membrane filter, doesnt matter if its made by millipore, whatman, Sterltech, me, or you... at the end of the day they must all meet the same characteristic guidelines that are unique to its materials individual purpose of filtration regulated by the standards of the ISO. Go to any companys site, or even better make a fuckin simple phone call, show some god dam effort that someones brought something to your attention that you should be concerned about, not offended... tells me a lot about you... I wouldn't touch any gear that comes out of that kitchen let alone pay for it... I dont suggest anyone to either.. someone who takes the responsibility of distributing shit they made for others to inject mixed with who you think you are is a fucking disaster waiting to happen. this is a joke... hope people on your "Labs" thread are aware of this shit too... not only this but your ignorance...

When labeled NR beside each chemical (Non-resistant) it means:
The membrane is basically unstable.
In most cases, extensive shrinkage
or swelling of the membrane occurs.
It may gradually weaken or partially
dissolve after extended exposure.

Both of which BA and BB are labeled NR

 

[BuryMeBig]

What would that prove?

Why not call the company?

Idk this all seems a bit like here say. I wanna see where it specifically says all this. Not some random chart. Like real data real warnings.

I'm more than happy to switch but I wanna see something real. Not your personal opinion and u still havnt provided it.

Kraize some random charts? haha you serious man? just stop brother... just stop... get PTFE and call it a day bro.... recall whatever youve sent out as well.

 

[krazieone56]

Long winded as usual. I have conferred with everyone I know who brews. Because I do want to be doing the best for everyone. Every single person you don't know ur ass from a home in the ground bro. I did my own research I found nothing. Regardless switching to something else is pennies on the dollar so if it makes u feel better I'll switch. Beyond that please enjoy a bowl of shut the fuck up

 

[Brewster]

To the guy who PM'ed me.... I Do not have a high enough post count to respond, sorry bro

 

[Inkslingingfreak]

Here's something to make your guys mornings

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She must think your cooking meth heh heh



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[krazieone56]

She must think your cooking meth heh heh



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Clear ur inbox.

 

[instant.muscle]

She must think your cooking meth heh heh



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lol wtf is this?

 

[instant.muscle]

oops, i meant to quote the photo not ur reply lol

 

[jaybird1120]

She must think your cooking meth heh heh



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Lmao yeah she's fucked man, I blast tne quite often she flips every time "you smell like that shit take a shower" keep telling her a shower ain't gonna work


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[Brewster]

You must not be around much lol. I sell quite a bit here. And have great reviews.

Good for you.

What autoclave do you have then?

 

[krazieone56]

Good for you.

What autoclave do you have then?

An 18L pressure cooker style. Electric or direct heat.

 

[krazieone56]

Good for you.

What autoclave do you have then?

And if u have any other questions u can refer them to my agent. His name is

Jack MeHoff.

K

 

[Brewster]

There you go again with your ego! lol.. You just can't help yourself can you!

Incapable of proper discussion.

A pressure cooker style you say. One of the cheap ones then! Good job on reinvesting your profits wisely lmao

 

[krazieone56]

There you go again with your ego! lol.. You just can't help yourself can you!

Incapable of proper discussion.

A pressure cooker style you say. One of the cheap ones then! Good job on reinvesting your profits wisely lmao

$350 is cheap?

 

[krazieone56]

Nah its not ego. I just get tired of u and ur butt buddy bury me big bashing me all the time. It gets old

 

[Brewster]

Yeah 350 is cheap! Lol

You're looking at upwards of $4000 for a decent autoclave that does the job properly for the needs of resale. You're an amateur, small fish in a big pond. That is all.

You just cannot stand to be wrong! It's actually funny now.

Good luck with the filtering regardless

 

[krazieone56]

Yeah 350 is cheap! Lol

You're looking at upwards of $4000 for a decent autoclave that does the job properly for the needs of resale. You're an amateur, small fish in a big pond. That is all.

You just cannot stand to be wrong! It's actually funny now.

Good luck with the filtering regardless

I never said I was a big fish.

Go find someone else to bother. Please.

 

[krazieone56]

I'm so tired of guys like u. Thinking u know it all. U don't need a $4000 clave to do a job that a $350 rated clave will do. Go learn something and come back until then suck my balls dude. Peace.

 

[fortitude18]

I think he said suck his balls.....That should be the end.....At least for me.....Jesus!!!!!

 

[BuryMeBig]

This clave is legit as fuck. And worth every penny.[/QUOTE]

is nothing but a half ass kitchen brewers on a budget cheap ass's crock pot... leaves all your glass wet yet its "LEGIT AS FUCK AND WORTH EVERY PENNY" let me guess you use a paper towel to hand dry everything once that stupid thing finishes up huh... god dam joke to every bit of AAS's man your a god dam hazard and a disaster waiting to happen...

You are honestly the lamest mother fucker i've ever seen in my life bud... what we refer to as a god dam tool you "turd" lol.... one insecure fuckin clown that I dont see lasting long at all before your ignorant ass gets popped... which I wish upon NO ONE....but every bit of your personality matches that of someone who thinks they know it all, thinks hes got it all including his bases covered, is to good to take advice from those hes unwilling to accept have more knowledge then he can comprehend if it were written in a childs pop up style book.... Kraize you are a joke.... nothing more so.... NOW FIX IT. AND RECALL ALL THE GEAR YOU'VE SHIPPED OUT... lol.... whats sad is all I was trying to do was help this stupid ass piece of shit.... and you see? thats what tells me right there that your one insecure god dam pussy Kraize

Nah its not ego. I just get tired of u and ur butt buddy bury me big bashing me all the time. It gets old

you precieve it as bashing.... when on my side... I was trying to help you for you helped me with the source you were willing to share with me... now you can eat shit I wont look out for you again bud.... good luck and stay out of harms way... for the sake of us all.

 

[krazieone56]

This clave is legit as fuck. And worth every penny.

is nothing but a half ass kitchen brewers on a budget cheap ass's crock pot... leaves all your glass wet yet its "LEGIT AS FUCK AND WORTH EVERY PENNY" let me guess you use a paper towel to hand dry everything once that stupid thing finishes up huh... god dam joke to every bit of AAS's man your a god dam hazard and a disaster waiting to happen...

You are honestly the lamest mother fucker i've ever seen in my life bud... what we refer to as a god dam tool you "turd" lol.... one insecure fuckin clown that I dont see lasting long at all before your ignorant ass gets popped... which I wish upon NO ONE....but every bit of your personality matches that of someone who thinks they know it all, thinks hes got it all including his bases covered, is to good to take advice from those hes unwilling to accept have more knowledge then he can comprehend if it were written in a childs pop up style book.... Kraize you are a joke.... nothing more so.... NOW FIX IT. AND RECALL ALL THE GEAR YOU'VE SHIPPED OUT... lol.... whats sad is all I was trying to do was help this stupid ass piece of shit.... and you see? thats what tells me right there that your one insecure god dam pussy Kraize



you precieve it as bashing.... when on my side... I was trying to help you for you helped me with the source you were willing to share with me... now you can eat shit I wont look out for you again bud.... good luck and stay out of harms way... for the sake of us all.[/QUOTE]
How bout. Wait a min I'm thinking. That's right. GO FUCK YOURSELF.

 

[krazieone56]

This clave is legit as fuck. And worth every penny.

is nothing but a half ass kitchen brewers on a budget cheap ass's crock pot... leaves all your glass wet yet its "LEGIT AS FUCK AND WORTH EVERY PENNY" let me guess you use a paper towel to hand dry everything once that stupid thing finishes up huh... god dam joke to every bit of AAS's man your a god dam hazard and a disaster waiting to happen...

You are honestly the lamest mother fucker i've ever seen in my life bud... what we refer to as a god dam tool you "turd" lol.... one insecure fuckin clown that I dont see lasting long at all before your ignorant ass gets popped... which I wish upon NO ONE....but every bit of your personality matches that of someone who thinks they know it all, thinks hes got it all including his bases covered, is to good to take advice from those hes unwilling to accept have more knowledge then he can comprehend if it were written in a childs pop up style book.... Kraize you are a joke.... nothing more so.... NOW FIX IT. AND RECALL ALL THE GEAR YOU'VE SHIPPED OUT... lol.... whats sad is all I was trying to do was help this stupid ass piece of shit.... and you see? thats what tells me right there that your one insecure god dam pussy Kraize



you precieve it as bashing.... when on my side... I was trying to help you for you helped me with the source you were willing to share with me... now you can eat shit I wont look out for you again bud.... good luck and stay out of harms way... for the sake of us all.[/QUOTE]
Hey bud listen. I didn't ask for your fucking help. Not once. Two. I'll make sure the source u just got doesn't sell u a gram of shit fuck yard bastard piece of shit. Also, no the glassware does not have condensation so not sure where u get that from.

I suggest you shut the fuck up before you extend your avail balance of what I allow u to get away with.

Be warned.

 

[krazieone56]

Since u obviously need schooling its called pre sterilization followed by the piece of equipment placed in a self sealing sterilization pouch. So ya no moisture dickhead just high heat steam sterilization dumb fuck. Now move along

 

[BuryMeBig]

yea kraize I use them too I know what pouches are... self sealing double indicator strips blah blah blah... we all use em... glad to hear you do too... on the other note... dont threaten me bud.... last thing you wanna do k. take my word.

 

[BuryMeBig]

just remember.... i've always been on your side as were all supposed to be on the same side... you've just been the one putting me in your head... on the other side...

 

[krazieone56]

yea kraize I use them too I know what pouches are... self sealing double indicator strips blah blah blah... we all use em... glad to hear you do too... on the other note... dont threaten me bud.... last thing you wanna do k. take my word.

Trust me. Its not a threat. Back off. Or u will be out a here. I promise you.

This is done. I was asked to no longer respond to this non sense by someone I respect. I suggest u do also.

Peace love. Everyone go do ur own thing. As I will also.

K

 

[Brewster]

Since u obviously need schooling its called pre sterilization followed by the piece of equipment placed in a self sealing sterilization pouch. So ya no moisture dickhead just high heat steam sterilization dumb fuck. Now move along

Actually, placing instruments in self seal pouches in a pressure cooker style clave is pointless, they are not type B. So in reality you're not acheiving steirlization.

See, this is what I was referring to when I said a little knowledge is needed with autoclaves.

Something else you've learned today krazie, one day you may be grateful for it lol!

I won't hold my breath though.

 

[krazieone56]

Sigh.......

 

[Brewster]

Infection waiting to happen I'm afraid, you cannot place pouched instruments in a cheap pressure cooker style autoclave.

Instead of being so defensive why not try and have a reasonable discussion and learn a thing or two at the same time? Discussion is good for the board

 

[insertnamehere]

I'm interested in this discussion continuing on - in a calm, rational, and informative fashion.

 

[krazieone56]

Infection waiting to happen I'm afraid, you cannot place pouched instruments in a cheap pressure cooker style autoclave.

Instead of being so defensive why not try and have a reasonable discussion and learn a thing or two at the same time? Discussion is good for the board

I havnt actually done that. As I had stated I was looking at glass media bottles currently still using disposable. Still researching best way. But to say my clave won't work is just ignorant. Sorry but that's what it is designed for. Google it

 

[krazieone56]

I'm interested in this discussion continuing on - in a calm, rational, and informative fashion.

Never happen with these two clowns. I've dispatched guys like this before I will again. Trust me.

 

[Brewster]

I never said it wouldn't work, only that it's not designed for "pouched" instruments

I'm all for healthy debate and discussion, it's you that cannot hold it together krazy, you think you're some kind of hero on this board clearly, and try and drop threats when you have no logical answer to come back with... At least try and take in some of the info available, If I was one of your customers reading this I'd be thinking " do I really want to be injecting something this guy has made when he conducts himself like this"

I'm not a clown bro, I just have a lot more experience in this game and I'm just trying to help others, that's all, If I see something incorrect then I will point it out, I can't see how that can be a bad thing at all.


*awaits post threatening to kick me off the board!* lol

 

[insertnamehere]

Never happen with these two clowns. I've dispatched guys like this before I will again. Trust me.

I haven't read this monstrous thread so I don't know if there's history at play between the participants but, the little I have read, I see no reason for anyone to be dispatched.

 

[krazieone56]

I never said it wouldn't work, only that it's not designed for "pouched" instruments

I'm all for healthy debate and discussion, it's you that cannot hold it together krazy, you think you're some kind of hero on this board clearly, and try and drop threats when you have no logical answer to come back with... At least try and take in some of the info available, If I was one of your customers reading this I'd be thinking " do I really want to be injecting something this guy has made when he conducts himself like this"

I'm not a clown bro, I just have a lot more experience in this game and I'm just trying to help others, that's all, If I see something incorrect then I will point it out, I can't see how that can be a bad thing at all.


*awaits post threatening to kick me off the board!* lol

Then maybe you and your boy toy should come at people the proper way. Not insulting. If you actually had some constructive positive advice I'd probly be all ears but when u and ur faggot friend come at me like fuck sticks ur gonna get the finger. So adjust ur attitude and get back to me. Maybe then will I listen and respect u. Not until then. U both owe me an apology. The end

 

[krazieone56]

I haven't read this monstrous thread so I don't know if there's history at play between the participants but, the little I have read, I see no reason for anyone to be dispatched.

It really doesn't matter honestly. These little come in here thinking they got it all wired and wanna pick apart me for some reason not the hundred others doing the same thing. I'm fucking sick of it. and I take serious insult to someone suggesting my product isn't sterile. I take every precaution. Even you bro know this.

I'm just done. I'm tired of little punks attacking me cause they think I'm gonna take it. These mother fuckers obviously don't know who they are fucking with. And they will find out of it doesn't stop.

Its such bs. None of these fools talking shit got the balls to post anything of their own work just wanna tear apart mine. To that I say go fuck yourselves. I'm out.

 

[Brewster]

You won't be getting an apology from me, I've said nothing out of line at all.

Point out where I insulted you, I pointed out that PES filters should'nt be used, you then asked for some proof of this, which I provided. You still didn't believe it. That's pretty much it.

And just as I expected you come back with insults! Lol.

 

[krazieone56]

You won't be getting an apology from me, I've said nothing out of line at all.

Point out where I insulted you, I pointed out that PES filters should'nt be used, you then asked for some proof of this, which I provided. You still didn't believe it. That's pretty much it.

And just as I expected you come back with insults! Lol.

You provided no proof at all. Some weak ass printout from some unheard of company. This is amute point. Don't apologize. Fine. I will have nothing further to do w you. You don't have my respect and you never will. I never claimed to know it all but I do my gear is good and safe so fuck you for even inferring it isn't. Rethink ur life's strategy. Its not working.

When u figure out what it means to come correct maube maybe then I'll talk to you. Until then u don't exist.

 

[krazieone56]

By the way everyone comes on here saying " I'm just here to pass on my vast knowledge and experience". So far I havnt seen any bro. Just a bunch of shit talking. I even just for an instant took u seriously and asked hey let's talk about this and showed u instances of what they meant by incompatible. And u still talked shit. I said I was going to call the company for real info u laughed and said ok get back to me. If u fucks had real care then Maybe I would listen so far I havnt seen any.

 

[krazieone56]

I've had along hard day. And worked tirelessly. I don't need this dumb fucking shit. I'm no hero. I'm just a guy. And I do what I do. And its good. Whether u think it is or isn't makes no difference to me. You both are no one.

 

[krazieone56]

I will no longer be helping anyone in this thread. The thread me and two friends created to help people. Which u have ruined with u substantiated bullshit. Everyone is on their own. Peace out.

 

[Brewster]

If I could be bothered looking I know for a fact I could find way more info. Like I said though, it's your responsibility to make sure the materials you're using are fit for purpose. I bet you didn't call the company then after all!

I don't want your respect you fool. Don't you get bored of the same hard man act? It means nothing to me

Once again you've turned what could have been a helpful topic for people into throwing needless insults around.

Probably lost a few customers too, good job right there.

 

[Brewster]

I will no longer be helping anyone in this thread. The thread me and two friends created to help people. Which u have ruined with u substantiated bullshit. Everyone is on their own. Peace out.

I think that's probably for the best, safer all round, most sensible thing you've posted so far. Good call

 

[krazieone56]

If I could be bothered looking I know for a fact I could find way more info. Like I said though, it's your responsibility to make sure the materials you're using are fit for purpose. I bet you didn't call the company then after all!

I don't want your respect you fool. Don't you get bored of the same hard man act? It means nothing to me

Once again you've turned what could have been a helpful topic for people into throwing needless insults around.

Probably lost a few customers too, good job right there.

If I did then I did. I will still be me. I will always be me and not you or anyone else will stray me from being me.

 

[krazieone56]

I think that's probably for the best, safer all round, most sensible thing you've posted so far. Good call

Go fuck yourself u bitch ass little cunt. Go to another board where they listen to idiots

 

[BuryMeBig]

I do. But now that I have a clave. I just bought glass media bottles and a dispensette. So now I buy just the roush autofil filter top.

There is nothing to fix and don't u fucking tell me what to do. Who the fuck are you? U r no one. Just some guy coming on here acting like you know shit. When you clearly don't. Move along. Later.

Do not buy a thing from this crack pot poser. Go to eBay and buy ur own shit bro. Be ur own man.

And if u have any other questions u can refer them to my agent. His name is

Jack MeHoff.

K

lol were you being serious with this one? lol what are you 12?

I'm so tired of guys like u. Thinking u know it all. U don't need a $4000 clave to do a job that a $350 rated clave will do. Go learn something and come back until then suck my balls dude. Peace.

you precieve it as bashing.... when on my side... I was trying to help you for you helped me with the source you were willing to share with me... now you can eat shit I wont look out for you again bud.... good luck and stay out of harms way... for the sake of us all.

How bout. Wait a min I'm thinking. That's right. GO FUCK YOURSELF.

or are you fucking 11? wow guy....

Hey bud listen. I didn't ask for your fucking help. Not once. Two. I'll make sure the source u just got doesn't sell u a gram of shit fuck yard bastard piece of shit. Also, no the glassware does not have condensation so not sure where u get that from.

I suggest you shut the fuck up before you extend your avail balance of what I allow u to get away with.

Be warned.

extend my balance... of what YOU have allowed huh?

Since u obviously need schooling its called pre sterilization followed by the piece of equipment placed in a self sealing sterilization pouch. So ya no moisture dickhead just high heat steam sterilization dumb fuck. Now move along

dumb fuck? so you start fabricating your practices with such confidence you've convinced yourself havent you?

Trust me. Its not a threat. Back off. Or u will be out a here. I promise you.

This is done. I was asked to no longer respond to this non sense by someone I respect. I suggest u do also.

Peace love. Everyone go do ur own thing. As I will also.

K

Its not a threat. Back off. Or u will be out a here. I promise you.K

Peace love huh? Respect for who? Who exactly Because whats to follow doesnt show any respect for any one...

I havnt actually done that. As I had stated I was looking at glass media bottles currently still using disposable. Still researching best way. But to say my clave won't work is just ignorant. Sorry but that's what it is designed for. Google it

oh so now you havent used it yet huh? If everyone doesnt see how full of fucking horse shit you are by now.... wow.....

Never happen with these two clowns. I've dispatched guys like this before I will again. Trust me.

Still talking Kraiz? Dispatched? Where in the fucking world do you come up with all this stupid ass shit you say? Your a joke guy...

Then maybe you and your boy toy should come at people the proper way. Not insulting. If you actually had some constructive positive advice I'd probly be all ears but when u and ur faggot friend come at me like fuck sticks ur gonna get the finger. So adjust ur attitude and get back to me. Maybe then will I listen and respect u. Not until then. U both owe me an apology. The end

Him and his boy toy? And thats who exactly? And some constructive positive advice? hahaha thats all i've seen being offered to you... but fuck sticks? Listen kraize I wont adjust shit for you alright... your a clown... "YOU BOTH OWE YOU AN APOLOGY"

It really doesn't matter honestly. These little come in here thinking they got it all wired and wanna pick apart me for some reason not the hundred others doing the same thing. I'm fucking sick of it. and I take serious insult to someone suggesting my product isn't sterile. I take every precaution. Even you bro know this.

I'm just done. I'm tired of little punks attacking me cause they think I'm gonna take it. These mother fuckers obviously don't know who they are fucking with. And they will find out of it doesn't stop.

Its such bs. None of these fools talking shit got the balls to post anything of their own work just wanna tear apart mine. To that I say go fuck yourselves. I'm out.

I thought for a second you were really going to show who ever you were speaking of that respect... hang on... as im sleeping this continues?

You provided no proof at all. Some weak ass printout from some unheard of company. This is amute point. Don't apologize. Fine. I will have nothing further to do w you. You don't have my respect and you never will. I never claimed to know it all but I do my gear is good and safe so fuck you for even inferring it isn't. Rethink ur life's strategy. Its not working.

When u figure out what it means to come correct maube maybe then I'll talk to you. Until then u don't exist.

Hang on arent you your own man? didnt think so...

I've had along hard day. And worked tirelessly. I don't need this dumb fucking shit. I'm no hero. I'm just a guy. And I do what I do. And its good. Whether u think it is or isn't makes no difference to me. You both are no one.

WERENT YOU SUPPOSED TO STFU ALREADY? VIP right here huh?

I will no longer be helping anyone in this thread. The thread me and two friends created to help people. Which u have ruined with u substantiated bullshit. Everyone is on their own. Peace out.

Are you proud of what you say man?

Go fuck yourself u bitch ass little cunt. Go to another board where they listen to idiots

^^^ REALLY GUY? YOU NEED TO GIVE UP THAT FUCKING VIP TAG, SEND OUT THE RECALL FOR ALL THE GEAR YOU'VE CARELESSLY SOLD PEOPLE, SEND THEM THERE MONEY BACK, AND QUIT YOUR GOD DAM BITCHING ALREADY MAN... YOU HONESTLY FUCKING EMBARRASS ME WITH ALL THIS STUPID ASS SHIT...
you should honestly be ashamed of yourself bro.... you've BEEN OUSTED! NOW GIVE ME THAT VIP TAG FOR YOU'VE PROVEN YOUR RESPECTS FOR THOSE WHO GAVE YOU THAT WITH ALL THIS GARBAGE... YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A HAZARD DISTRIBUTING GEAR THAT YOU ADMIT YOU STILL HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT

OUSTED!!
YOU JOIN ANOTHER FORUM AND ARE BANNED WITH IN 30 MINUTES!! AHAHA!!! REJOIN WITH ANOTHER NAME AND BANNED AGAIN!! NO WONDER! NOTHING BUT DISRUPTION! I remember when I first joined here you told me, "One thing we dont do around here is call each other names...." what the hell ever happened to that rule? lost all respect didnt you...
And leave your VIP tag for you've proven how important you are!

 

[krazieone56]

Done? Cause all that shit said is just sad. Lol.

I said I havnt used it for sterilizing media bottles. I never said I didn't use it.

I'm not recalling shit. I'm not refunding shit. They VIP tag is mine now go fuck yourself homeboy. Any questions?

FUCK OFF.

 

[jaybird1120]

Well on a side note the Home Brew Calculator (Lite version) is done for Windows here it is if you guys want to check it out . I know it needs a lot of improvement and new default values for BB and BA but until I get more input and help it can only go so far

homebrewlounge.com/downloads/HBCLite.exe

If you get an message about unknown publisher just click more info and run anyways

 

[jaybird1120]

Let me know what you guy think

 

[krazieone56]

Couldn't open it w my phone I'll try getting on computer later and check it out.

 

[jaybird1120]

Next will probably be windows phone then android last iPhone (only because it'll be more work and I still need to get the website up and running) please check it and give me feedback cause if you guys feel this is not something you'd be interested in let me know so I can skip right to iPhone and call it a day


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[krazieone56]

I got an a droid. Droid turbo. I could probly view it if I download the free windows docs viewer app

 

[jaybird1120]

Jesus my stash of tne is being threatened again!!! Any one have a good recipe without the gauicol and is smooth( well as smooth as tne can be) or a good suspension


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[BuryMeBig]

Let me know what you guy think

awesome thank you very much brother I will certainly check it out, very kind of you really. cheers brotha

 

[BuryMeBig]

Great job with the program man! That is honestly as simple as its going to pretty much get for any one man, id say besides some cosmetic shit its GTG

 

[jaybird1120]

I wrote it as a c# wpf program instead of win form so I can make that thing pretty as fuck lol will most likely take me 2x the time for the UI then the programming itself. Next sept is mobile I was gonna write each app individually but new game plan is to write one cloud app for all 3 platforms


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[jaybird1120]

Also was gonna make an full version with info on powder melting point profiles and such reverse powder calculations but that is to come my time is kinda stretch at the moment


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[goin on 5T]

Androstanolone- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17b-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS 5a-Dihydrotestosterone)
melting point= 177-182C
molecular weight= 290.40
rotation= +33 c=1 CHCL3

Boldenone- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 167-172C
molecular weight= 286.40
rotation= +22 CHCL3

BOLDENONE UNDECLYNATE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE-UNDECYLENATE
melting point=
molecular weight=
rotation=

CLOMIFENE CITRATE-2-(p- (2-chloro-1,2-diphenylvinyl)phenoxy) triethylamine citrate (1:1)
melting point= 116.5C
molecular weight= 598.09

CLOSTEBOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 187-188C
molecular weight= 322.89
rotation= +150 CHLF

DROSTANOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-2a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS DROMOSTANOLONE)
melting point= 149-153C
molecular weight= 304.36
rotation= +32 MeOH

LETROZOLE-4,4'-(1H-1,2,4 -Triazol-1-ylmethylene) dibenzonitrile
melting point= 184-185C
molecular weight= 285.31

MESTEROLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-1a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 202-206C
molecular weight= 304.36
rotation= =18 CHCL3

METHANDIONONE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17a-METHYL-17B-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS METHYLANDROSTENOLONE)
melting point= 162-164C
molecular weight= 300.42
rotation= +0 CHCL3

METHENOLONE- 1,5a-ANDROSTEN-1-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 164-165C
molecular weight=
rotation= +58 CHLF

METHYL testosterone
melting point= 162-167c
molecular weight= 302.46

NANDROLONE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 122-125C
molecular weight= 274.38
rotation= +56 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE ACETATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point= 89-93C
molecular weight= 316.41
rotation= +49 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE BENZOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE
melting point= 170-175C
molecular weight= 378.49
rotation= +104 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE DECANOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-DECANOATE
melting point= 30-35C
molecular weight= 428.63
rotation=

NANDROLONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PHENYLPROPIONATE
melting point= 92-96C
molecular weight= 406.54
rotation= +58 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE PROPIONATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
melting point= 55-60C
molecular weight= 330.45
rotation= +41 C=1 CHCL3

OXANDROLONE-
melting point= 235-238C

OXYMETHOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-2-
HYDROXYMETHYLENE-3-ONE
melting point= 177-180C
molecular weight= 332.47
rotation= +38 ETOH

SPIRONOLACTONE- 4,17a-PREGNEN-21-CARBOXYLIC ACID-17b-OL-3-ONE-7a-THIOL 21-17 GAMMA LACTONE 7-ACETATE
(SAME AS ALDACTONE)
melting point= 207C
molecular weight= 416-.59
rotation=

STANOZOLOL- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-3,
2c-PYRAZOLE
melting point prisms= 228-242C (235C)
melting point needles= 155C
molecular weight= 328.42
rotation= +36 CHCL3

TADALAFIL-
melting point= 298-300C
molecular weight= 389.41
roatation= [a]20D: +70 DEG to +73 DEG

TAMOXIFEN CITRATE- 2-[4-1,2-Diphenyl-1-Butenyl)
melting point= 143-146C
molecular weight= 563.65

testosterone BASE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 154-155C
molecular weight= 288.4
rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3

testosterone ACETATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point=140-144C
molecular weight=330.45
rotation= +59 C=1 ACETONE

testosterone BENZOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE
melting point=191-196C
molecular weight=392.52
rotation= +155 C=1 CHCL3

testosterone CYPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE
(SAME AS testosterone CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE)
melting point=98-102C
molecular weight=412.59
rotation= +87 C=1 CHCL3

testosterone ENANTHATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ENANTHATE
(SAME AS testosterone HEPTANOATE)
melting point=32-36C
molecular weight=400.61
rotation= +84 C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSETERONE DECANOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-n-DECANOATE
melting point=47-49C
molecular weight=
rotation= +72 DIOXANE

testosterone ISOBUTYRATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ISOBUTYRATE
melting point=124-128C
molecular weight=358.50

testosterone ISOCAPRONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE ISOCAPRONATE
melting point=53-55C
rotation= +86 CHLF

testosterone VALERATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-VALERATE
(SAME AS testosterone PENTANOATE)
melting point=106-109C
molecular weight=372.53
rotation= +92 C=1 CHCL3

testosterone PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 3-PHENYLPROPIONATE
melting point=115-116C
rotation= +98 CHLF

testosterone PROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
melting point=118-122C
molecular weight=344.50
rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE

testosterone UNDECANOATE- 4-Androsten-17b-ol-3-one 17-undecanoate
melting point=
molecular weight=
rotation=

TRENBOLONE ACETATE-
melting point= 94-97C

TURINABOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point= 225-230C
molecular weight= 364.89
rotation= =118 CHCL3

*** Basskiller

 

[goin on 5T]

see my post above...

 

[goin on 5T]

What calcs are you looking for?

 

[goin on 5T]

$4000?
I would say you could get an auto clave on Ebay that will sterilize 200-300 sealed vials at time for about $1800-2200. IMHO
Disclaimer is that the door seal will need to be changed and all screws will need to be tightened in order for machine to pressure up.

 

[BigBro]

Quick question regarding syringe filters.

Down here in Australia, we have limited resources. So, as far as syringe filters go, Nylon is available. Is that OK for a test prop mix using BA & BB?

What about a test prop brew using Ethyl Oleate? Nylon still OK?

Is PTFE OK for the above as well?

 

[BuryMeBig]

Quick question regarding syringe filters.

Down here in Australia, we have limited resources. So, as far as syringe filters go, Nylon is available. Is that OK for a test prop mix using BA & BB?

What about a test prop brew using Ethyl Oleate? Nylon still OK?


Is PTFE OK for the above as well?

Yep, if you have access to PTFE membrane though, those are all around the most resistant/durable filter membranes, but yea Nylon is perfectly fine... use which ever costs less if you'd like... if that doesnt matter either... then close ur eyes and choose one.

 

[BuryMeBig]

Jay if you, or anyone that is, wants a copy of the Merck index along with chemBioOffice just shoot me a PM I'll send you a copy....

 

[BuryMeBig]

$4000?
I would say you could get an auto clave on Ebay that will sterilize 200-300 sealed vials at time for about $1800-2200. IMHO
Disclaimer is that the door seal will need to be changed and all screws will need to be tightened in order for machine to pressure up.

Door seals only need to be replaced if the claves door is leaking causing the clave to not reach or hold the required pressure. Those seals for any retail purchaser arent very cheap either.. I replace them on all the claves I sell so they got new seals... always nice, but if maintained well, which is simply just wiping them clean with a cloth and distilled water, the average homebrewer that were to buy a clave thats got a new seal, honestly should never have to replace it as long as its wiped clean and dried after use....

 

[Brewster]

Door seals only need to be replaced if the claves door is leaking causing the clave to not reach or hold the required pressure. Those seals for any retail purchaser arent very cheap either.. I replace them on all the claves I sell so they got new seals... always nice, but if maintained well, which is simply just wiping them clean with a cloth and distilled water, the average homebrewer that were to buy a clave thats got a new seal, honestly should never have to replace it as long as its wiped clean and dried after use....

Exactly right bro, that's why I say these cheap ass preesure cookie style claves are no good, especially if buying used too, you just don't know if it is reaching pressure/temp.

I don't have the ability to PM yet but can you source spares for all types of autoclaves? PM me if you prefer

 

[BigBro]

Looking forward to my first brew experience. So far I have ordered:

Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Ethyl Oleate
200ml glass beaker (I got a pack of 3)
Glass thermometer (doubles as a stirring rod, handled carefully of course)
60ml Syringe
PTFE inline syringe filters (pack of 6, I think)
25 10ml vials, sterilised with pop tops (I assume I have to inject the finished product into them through the rubber stopper as the tops are sealed)
100ml sterilised and sealed glass vials (to collect the filtered superman brew)

On hand I have:
Test prop powder
3ml barrels
18g needles
21g needles
Micro scales
Heaps of ethyl alcohol for cleaning stuff, if necessary.

I have yet to pick up a gun thermometer for checking melt point of the powder and need to get the grape seed oil (I intend to go 50/50 with EO and GSO) but otherwise I think I am good to go.

I plan to heat the mix in one of the glass beakers by sitting it in a pan of hot water. I assume that you would draw 10ml out of the large vial and inject it into one of the small vials, so probably getting a 10 or 20ml barrel would be good for that.

Once I get it all set up and ready to go I will probably have a few questions. This is gonna be fun.

 

[krazieone56]

Looking forward to my first brew experience. So far I have ordered:

Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Ethyl Oleate
200ml glass beaker (I got a pack of 3)
Glass thermometer (doubles as a stirring rod, handled carefully of course)
60ml Syringe
PTFE inline syringe filters (pack of 6, I think)
25 10ml vials, sterilised with pop tops (I assume I have to inject the finished product into them through the rubber stopper as the tops are sealed)
100ml sterilised and sealed glass vials (to collect the filtered superman brew)

On hand I have:
Test prop powder
3ml barrels
18g needles
21g needles
Micro scales
Heaps of ethyl alcohol for cleaning stuff, if necessary.

I have yet to pick up a gun thermometer for checking melt point of the powder and need to get the grape seed oil (I intend to go 50/50 with EO and GSO) but otherwise I think I am good to go.

I plan to heat the mix in one of the glass beakers by sitting it in a pan of hot water. I assume that you would draw 10ml out of the large vial and inject it into one of the small vials, so probably getting a 10 or 20ml barrel would be good for that.

Once I get it all set up and ready to go I will probably have a few questions. This is gonna be fun.

I would say steer away from eo. All gso is the best way

 

[goin on 5T]

Curious as to why?
Not challenging you, truly wanting to hear from you.

 

[goin on 5T]

Use Nylon Membrane

Quick question regarding syringe filters.

Down here in Australia, we have limited resources. So, as far as syringe filters go, Nylon is available. Is that OK for a test prop mix using BA & BB?

What about a test prop brew using Ethyl Oleate? Nylon still OK?

Is PTFE OK for the above as well?

 

[Brewster]

Curious as to why?
Not challenging you, truly wanting to hear from you.

Nothing wrong with EO providing..

1. You use the correct grade of it
2. You use the correct filters when filtering.

Use ptfe, best all round filter, especially with EO

 

[Brewster]

I would say steer away from eo. All gso is the best way

Krazie I know we tend to clash, but put that aside. Interested to hear why you don't like EO?