Whatcha think? (Possible next cycle)

[Alpha1Wolf]

Alrighty guys! How's it goin!

New to the forum game never really ever posted love to read and look at all of the posts, so I'm finally here haha! Just wanted to get opinions on what everyone thinks of the stack I am about to run.I've ran a few cycles before and even the more advanced level stuff like tren ace and have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing (at least I hope haha)

Just looking for advice since this ( I think ) is a more advanced cycle.


Week 1
-anadrol 50 mg ed.
-sustanon 750 mg.
-equipoise 800 mg.

Week 2
- Anadrol 50 mg Ed
- sustanon 250 mg
- equipoise 400 mg.

Weeks 3 & 4 same as week 2

Week 5
- sustanon 250 mg
-equipoise 400 mg
- tren ace 100 mg eod

Weeks 6,7 & 8 same as 5

Week 9
-sustanon 250 mg
-tren ace 100 mg eod
-masteron 200 mg
-winny 50 mg Ed

Week 10 & 11 same as 9

Week 12
-sustanon 250
-winny 50 mg Ed
-tren ace 50 mg eod
-masteron 100 mg

Sorry for the long post just lookin for tips or if all of it looks like a solid cycle.
Don't mind criticism either. Thanks guys

 

[jp4355]

Please Don't Post Multiple Threads on the Same Topic.

All New Members have their Posts "Moderated", and this may take some time......................... JP

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

Sorry I didn't honestly mean to haha my phone froze and I didn't think the first one went through!

 

[jp4355]

Sorry I didn't honestly mean to haha my phone froze and I didn't think the first one went through!

It actually posted up 3 times, so that's why I mentioned it.

Week 1 is OK ~ Front-loading the Sust and EQ.

1st Problem ~ EQ has to be run a Minimum of 16 Weeks due to it's Long Half-Life.
It takes any Hormone between 4 to 5 Half-Lives to reach Peak Blood Plasma Levels.

You can add in the Tren Ace after stopping the Anadrol.
And run it through to the End.

But I would Skip the Masteron for this Cycle, 4 Weeks doesn't really give enough time for the Mast to shine.
8 Weeks would be more to the point.

The Winny is doable at the end, for the last 4 Weeks.

Which AI are you going to be running ~ I would suggest Aromasin.
It's won't effect your Cholesterol and it's a Suicide Inhibitor.

Lastly, what's your PCT look like.............................. JP

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

Wow my bad brotha! My phones been acting up these last couple days..

Alrighty!
If eq isn't gonna be that beneficial what would you recommend? Deca maybe? Npp? And I could just front load with that?

Yeah I'd be starting tren a beginning week fight when I stopped the anadrol

Aromasin was the one I'd have on hand since at a little stronger then arimidex haven't had to use one before.

As for the pct mgs and dosing I haven't gotten that far yet to be honest I've spent a lot and I mean a lot of time researching and trying to put this stack together I know clomid and Nolva are the best but I haven't looked into dosing quite yet.

Should I replace the masteron with something? Or just run the sust tren and winny.

 

[jp4355]

You could certainly run the Sust/Tren/Mast for the entire Cycle.
Using Anadrol as the Kickstart, and Winny as the Finisher.

Don't quite understand, if you've previously done Cycles.
Why don't you know what the Dosing should be on your PCT.

You can research PCT, up in the Black Border at the Top of the Page........................... JP
P.S.
EQ would certainly work if you lengthened your Cycle to 16 Weeks.

Don't like Deca or NPP if you are doing Tren ~ that's 2 ~ 19 Nor's ~ will cause all Types of Prolactin Issues.

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

You could certainly run the Sust/Tren/Mast for the entire Cycle.
Using Anadrol as the Kickstart, and Winny as the Finisher.

Don't quite understand, if you've previously done Cycles.
Why don't you know what the Dosing should be on your PCT.

You can research PCT, up in the Black Border at the Top of the Page........................... JP
P.S.
EQ would certainly work if you lengthened your Cycle to 16 Weeks.

Don't like Deca or NPP if you are doing Tren ~ that's 2 ~ 19 Nor's ~ will cause all Types of Prolactin Issues.

Alrighty haha so... I used clomid after a cycle of sust eq tren primo. Not knowing the dosing as in I didn't know how much different it would be being a longer cycle with different compounds and I hadn't looked into it quite yet. Lol

As for the eq I feel like if I ran eq all 12 I'd still see pretty dang good results and I'm a lean guy that's why I was trying to get a bulk but have it a little leaner and then at the end tighten it all up I've only ever done a few cycles and nothing super advanced

 

[prime863]

this is just unnecessarily complicated

 

[muskate]

I can tell you are new based on how complicated you made your cycle lol.

KISS - Keep it simple stupid.

There is no need to front load. Just run the same dosages for all 12 weeks. You are also missing some very important support supplements.

Weeks 1 - 12
sustanon 250mg/week
EQ 400mg/week
tren ace 50mg EOD
Cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
aromasin 10mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

If you want to do anadrol as a 4 week kick start and winstrol for a 6 week finisher, that's fine. Your dosages there are good. I would also add in a good liver aid supplement to your cycle. You are stacking 2 liver toxic oral steroids together. That is going to put a lot of stress on your liver. Look for a liver aid supplement that contains TUDCA, NAC and milk thistle. I really like the product N2guard from n2bm.com. I recommend that to all my clients.

Is your goal competition? Masteron is primarily a cosmetic drug. You aren't going to get anything in the way of size or strength from it. If you are doing a bodybuilding show, then add it in the last 3 weeks at 200mg/week. If you aren't doing a show, save your money. You won't notice anything from it.

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

I can tell you are new based on how complicated you made your cycle lol.

KISS - Keep it simple stupid.

There is no need to front load. Just run the same dosages for all 12 weeks. You are also missing some very important support supplements.

Weeks 1 - 12
sustanon 250mg/week
EQ 400mg/week
tren ace 50mg EOD
Cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
aromasin 10mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

If you want to do anadrol as a 4 week kick start and winstrol for a 6 week finisher, that's fine. Your dosages there are good. I would also add in a good liver aid supplement to your cycle. You are stacking 2 liver toxic oral steroids together. That is going to put a lot of stress on your liver. Look for a liver aid supplement that contains TUDCA, NAC and milk thistle. I really like the product N2guard from n2bm.com. I recommend that to all my clients.

Is your goal competition? Masteron is primarily a cosmetic drug. You aren't going to get anything in the way of size or strength from it. If you are doing a bodybuilding show, then add it in the last 3 weeks at 200mg/week. If you aren't doing a show, save your money. You won't notice anything from it.

Yeah haha I know about most things but when it comes to application is where I lack knowledge and experience because I haven't ran a whole lot and haven't ran different things and the more I'm reading and getting responses is KISS hahaha

I really would like to get into body building and competitions I just don't know how to really get started on doing that I mean obviously lifting and working out but when it comes down to the real science down to a chemical level (for the drugs) and a chaloric level(diet) I'm not the most knolagable.

Why I put so many things into the cycle - same thing with muscle confusion not doing the exact same lifts for each muscle category.
Same thing for the gear so my body wasn't going to get adjusted but now understanding more about everything, nothing I was even going to run long enough for that to be an issue

If you have anymore advice man I would be more then greatful for the help because I really want to get into bodybuilding deep and make it happen.

 

[prime863]

your body wont really get used to the compound so to speak, closest thing I can even think of similar to that is receptor saturation/sensitivity to steroids in general which even that is still in the air and being researched.
so there isn't really much hard evidence suggesting to swap compounds heaps.

but you stated in your last post that youre not the most knowledgeable when it comes to Diet .... Cmon man, Diet/nutrition and training should be the first things you look at and become knowledgeable in before even thinking about using gear. because these two things are critical ESPECIALLY the Diet, you cant outdrug a bad diet, trust me, me and many others have tried

Muskates cycle layout is simple, efficient and will do the job nicely, ive done similar cycles myself

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

your body wont really get used to the compound so to speak, closest thing I can even think of similar to that is receptor saturation/sensitivity to steroids in general which even that is still in the air and being researched.
so there isn't really much hard evidence suggesting to swap compounds heaps.

but you stated in your last post that youre not the most knowledgeable when it comes to Diet .... Cmon man, Diet/nutrition and training should be the first things you look at and become knowledgeable in before even thinking about using gear. because these two things are critical ESPECIALLY the Diet, you cant outdrug a bad diet, trust me, me and many others have tried

Muskates cycle layout is simple, efficient and will do the job nicely, ive done similar cycles myself

Ok let's put it this way I understand carbs protein caloric intake to gain/lose weight every single lift you can perform gym ( how to do it and what muscle it works)

I understand that how many grams of protein and carbs carb cycling things like that. The stuff I don't understand is like when it comes to fats and which are the good ones little stuff like that. I know and understand the majority of things I feel like and the stuff I don't understand is why I'm one here trying to learn more about those small things. The small tweaks I can do to put myself in a better position to be a legitimate competitor.

And as for the whole getting used to compounds, again why I posted the cycle on here to get more info as to if that was true.
Just trying to learn more my man figure out real true facts because most shit online is skewed one way or another.

 

[prime863]

I follow now, sorry if I came across strong, good thing is youre putting in the time to learn which is key, so well done man !

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

Haha not at all I just don't want anyone to think well if this guy doesn't even understand diet.... how's he going to be using gear

Not at all man just lookin to learn and understand everything more then I do or learn new things completely!! I appreciate the advice tho man!
I'm looking to try and get into body building just don't really know how to go about doing it to be 100% honest and I am kinda basically starting from the bottom again I had knee surgery and lost a gross amount of weight and then being on pain meds along with not being hungry(upset stomach or constipation) I ended up getting extremely unhealthy small so just building my base back right now before I start cramming all sorts of chemicals into my body gotta get back to being healthy and having a good base to work off of once I start sticking again.

 

[muskate]

Yeah haha I know about most things but when it comes to application is where I lack knowledge and experience because I haven't ran a whole lot and haven't ran different things and the more I'm reading and getting responses is KISS hahaha

I really would like to get into body building and competitions I just don't know how to really get started on doing that I mean obviously lifting and working out but when it comes down to the real science down to a chemical level (for the drugs) and a chaloric level(diet) I'm not the most knolagable.

Why I put so many things into the cycle - same thing with muscle confusion not doing the exact same lifts for each muscle category.
Same thing for the gear so my body wasn't going to get adjusted but now understanding more about everything, nothing I was even going to run long enough for that to be an issue

If you have anymore advice man I would be more then greatful for the help because I really want to get into bodybuilding deep and make it happen.

I train people for bodybuilding shows for a living and have done more bodybuilding shows then you have hairs on your head. I am also doing my masters in sports nutrition.

The more I learn (both in a university setting and via personal experience) the more simple I make things. Look at the best bodybuilders of all time - Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath etc. their diet and training is SO SO SO simple.

Go to the gym, train HARD, break down the muscle, eat a high protein diet to allow your body to rebuild and grow the muscle, rest and do it all over again. That's bodybuilding in a nut shell.