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Deca or NPP with Pharmaqo Labs


Welcome to another amazing episode of Evolutionary.org Hardcore 2.0 Episode #64.  In this show, Steve and Mobster discuss Deca or NPP with Pharmaqo Labs.  They first talk about the structure, history, and science behind Nandrolone.  Next, they discuss the differences between NPP and Deca and which one would be a better fit for what you are trying to do.  Next, they discuss their favorite ways to stack them and give tips and tricks to having the most success. They end the show with side effects to look for and also tell you why Pharmaqo is such a popular brand.

All about Nandrolones

Nandrolones are one of the most used and popular steroid options ever used in bodybuilding.  It was synthesized originally in the 1950s and athletes loved its low side effects and effectiveness.  During the 60's and 70's, it became a staple with bodybuilders who were skinny and wanted to bulk up going into shows, or those who wanted to gain more muscle size in the offseason.

Nandrolone is considered a stripped-down Testosterone derivative.  It is less androgenic, less estrogenic, and has way less DHT properties than the parent hormone.  This made it a very smart option in an era where steroids weren't well understood and ancillaries had not existed yet.

There are 2 options for Nandrolones based on ester chain additions.  Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate which is considered an intermediate ester and Nandrolone Decanoate which is a very long ester.  The difference is how fast the release of the hormone gets into the body to start acting.

Steve and Mobster say, talk to any old-school steroid user in your gym and they will rave about how much they have loved using Nandrolone over the years.

Difference between NPP and Deca

When it comes to deciding which is better, Steve says the first thing to look at is how fast it's in and out of your system.  Think about how long of a cycle you want to run, if you are on TRT already, and how many cycles you plan on using during the year.   If you choose the Deca option, expect to need to come off a solid 20 weeks to make a full recovery. With NPP since it is out of your system quicker, you probably only need half that time to recover.

Another thing to think about is how often you need to pin and how often.  Pharmaqo has 2 options which are excellent:

Nandrolone-D 300 and Nandrolone-P 100.

Also, how much you want to use and how much volume is needed to inject. If you plan on using 400mgs a week, then you will need to pin 1.25CCs of the Nandrolone-D option since it comes in 300mgs/ml.  But if you want to use 400mgs a week of the Nandrolone-P 100 then you will need to pin 4CCs a week and more often.


Experiences, Cycling, and stacking options

Mobster loves Nandrolone as it fits his goals and he responds great to it.  Although he hasn't run NPP to date, he sees himself using it in the future especially if he competes again.

Mobster says his favorite stack of all time is Pharmaqo Sustanon 250 and Pharmaqo Deca.  He had put on 30 pounds and 20 pounds on separate cycles of it. It also made him much stronger and he was doing grip, deadlift, squats and hitting all-time PRs.  His bench press would routinely go up 20kilos no problem.  He likes 800mgs per week total of both steroids which averaged about 400mgs of Deca and Sustanon.

Steve says for bulking and crazy appetite stacking some Pharmaqo Testosterone Prop, Pharmaqo NPP and Pharmaqo Dianabol would be the way to go.  You can run 20mgs a day of Dbol, Test Prop 300mgs a week, and NPP at 400mgs a week.  Add in some Pharmaqo Proviron 25mgs a week.


Food and Nandrolone

Steve and Mobster say to be prepared to do a lot of food prep, they each share some stories.

Steve says he went to an expensive Christman party for work and he ended up ordering 2 plates and also taking scraps off other people at the table because he was so hungry from being on Nandrolone.

Mobster shares a story where he was at a powerlifting competition and kept asking to be taken somewhere to eat at a buffet because his appetite was so strong.

Steve and Mobster give tips on food prepping and say you need to learn how to prepare food that will last you several days.


Side effects to watch for

Steve goes over why using a DHT derivative with nandrolones is important to avoid the dreaded "deca dick".  He says a strategy he came up with 15 years ago has now become mainstream and that is to always use a DHT derivative steroid with nandrolone to balance DHT and DHN.  Steve says nandrolones not only bind to DHT in the body but they metabolize into DHN (dihydronandrolone) and if you are sensitive to DHT in the body it can cause a loss of libido and erections.  Hence, he always recommends using Proviron with Nandrolone at 25mgs a day for the entirety of the cycle, and even says he recommends some clients continue it into pct.


Pharmaqo, why do we recommend them?

Mobster loves Pharmaqo and says they have over 50 different products available, they are a professional brand for getting anabolic steroids, ancillaries, PCT products, and more.  They have been around for many years and have tons of great reviews.  Steroid source resellers carry their products because they are in demand and they work.

Their products have been sent off to an independent lab and tested so we know it's legit. Steve says he has been using their products for the past 2 or 3 years.  He recently used their Anavar and Testosterone and they are excellent quality.

Mobster ends the show by saying you should try their products yourself, you will love their stuff.  Many guys and gals on the forums have logs and are using their steroids with incredible success.

Where to buy?

Pharmaqo can be purchased from domestic-supply.com

Domestic-supply.com is an approved source that has been around for 15 years providing customers with outstanding oral steroids, injectable steroids, ancillaries, pct products, and more.  When you purchase from them you know you are getting authentic Pharmaqo brand and not fakes.

Domestic-supply.com provides lightning quick domestic shipping to American customers, no need to worry about customs and no need to stress about how long it takes.  They ship typically within a few days and you get your package lightning fast.  They also have a European division which will ship to Canada and most of Europe.

They have reps on the forums to further assist with setting up cycles and answer questions you may have.  If there is ever an issue they are on call to help with your order and make sure you are taken care of.


Forums on our forums? read on:

Comments please on the strategy of doing NPP for three weeks then changing over to deca for 10 weeks then finishing the cycle up by returning to NPP for Read More.......

looking to bulk up on my next cycle I’m currently 165 pounds and I would like to bulk up to atleast 180 pounds or Read More.........

I’ve done the deca and test stack before. Had good gains but bloated a lot before. People were saying I looked way too big especially with Read More.......

Looking at trying a new cycle Test, primo and either Deca or npp. Any help would be appreciated Read More.......

Hey guys still unsure on what I wanna run Will npp be better then decca iv only ever done test and decca Or is there something els I can stack test with don't wanna Read More.......



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Lev Butlerov holds a Masters Degree in Biology, he is NASM Certified, ISSA Certified, The National Council on Strength & Fitness (NCSF) certified and is currently working on his American Council on Exercise (ACE) certificate. From Lev: I love bodybuilding and the biology, chemistry of the industry. It's my hobby and my love. I have done multiple bodybuilding shows, 2 in Germany in the past 5 years. I hope everyone enjoys my articles. In 2021 (going into 2022, 2023) I will be working on my PhD thesis in physiotherapy and biochemistry, I hope to have some of the bits published here.

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