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signaturess3

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Hey guys I recently picked up some Sust 250 & Dbol for a bulking cycle. I'm thinking about adding Deca as well, but won't have it until next week. Should I waitfor the Deca before starting or can I start without it?

If I can without it please inform me how I should plan out the addition of the Deca. Also I experience terrible joint pain, the regular glucosamine and msm aren't doing the job. Any suggestions?

Thanks guys!
 
How long is your Cycle planned for.

For Joint Pain, there's a couple of things that go Beyond the Glucosamine & MSM.

I take Carlson's Liquid Fish Oil at about 4 to 6 Grams a Day. It's 1,600 Mg per Tsp.
Also Cissus Quandrangularis is Very Good, that will be a New Addition to my Growing List.

I also take Vit D-3, and Drink lots of Green Tea, and use Fresh Ginger in my Tea................. JP
P.S.
There's quite a Few Others also, but I would at least Start with the Fish Oil & D-3.
Sometimes, you have to try a Few to find what works best for you.
 
If it's your first cycle I wouldn't run it. If your gonna run it anyway I would wait and start it all together. That deca is gonna take a while to kick in
 
Don't make the mistake I did with deca. I was having a little joint trouble and thought it would be a good idea to add deca into my third test E cycle. It gave me some pretty bad mental sides. I'll never touch it again. But I got buddies who love it.
The short of it is do your research. I didn't and paid for it.
 
Ya if you want to help your joints and ligaments equipose is great for that. And makes u more hungry and vascular

KRAZIEONE - for all your DIO LABS needs....
 
Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate all of the help.

Should I maybe eliminate the Deca and add Tren after the 4 weeks of Dbol is over?

I'm bulking but still want to stay pretty lean. I'd probably add Tren E if that was the case. What do you think?
 
Tren is not recommended for first AAS cycle from what everyone says.The reason people say to run test alone first is that you see how your body reacts.If all goes well then you include a different compound.Lets say you do test/dbol/tren snd get some nasty sides or your body just reacts negatively.Your not gonna know who the culprit is.But your a grown man and you're gonna do what you want so just be careful bro.what does your pct look like?
 
On my first cycle I ran test for a month then after I didn't get any sides, I added Deca for a month the closed my cycle out with dbol
 
Can anyone please give me some guidance with my first cycle I'm about to run. I'm planning on getting "test e 250", "dbol", and "tren e 200". My first question is it fine to take the dbol and tren e together in a cycle? Also amount and spacing? I was thinking 250mg test 20 dbol and 200 of the tren every 4 days. I'm placing my order Monday so any input would be very helpful. Will this be a good combo or is it too much for my first cycle and should I take all at once? Should I order anything different? Thanks fellas.
 
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Flybot13 said:
Can anyone please give me some guidance with my first cycle I'm about to run. I'm planning on getting "test e 250", "dbol", and "tren e 200". My first question is it fine to take the dbol and tren e together in a cycle? Also amount and spacing? I was thinking 250mg test 20 dbol and 200 of the tren every 4 days. I'm placing my order Monday so any input would be very helpful. Will this be a good combo or is it too much for my first cycle and should I take all at once? Should I order anything different? Thanks fellas.
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I wouldn't run Tren on your first cycle bro. That is some potent shit. It's best to run test only on your first cycle so you will know how your body is gonna react to gear. Also, Tren A would be much better, cause it's a shorter ester if you get some nasty side effects you can adjust your dose and get quicker results. With Tren E if you get bad side effects it will take a longer time to adjust your dose. What is your goals? Your stats? Good luck bro
 
Stay away from tren. Think of cycling just like lifting. Its all progression. There is no point in going with such a hard drug when your first starting out. You will get excellent gains on a test only cycle. Maybe a Little Dboll to kick start but thats plenty. Save tren for much later when you NEED it. Sounds like you have plenty of size now. You can probably get to 275-290 before even needing it.
 
Just looking to add some more quality size and get near 260. Now I'm 6'4 & 240 but I hold it pretty we'll. No one believes I'm that heavy. I'm also in a suit all day and I look slim when it's on.

I seriously never feel I'm big enough, never compare myself to others or look in the mirror and put myself down. I guess I love the challenge of filling out my frame. I was 170lbs 3 years ago, I felt that was way too skinny so I jumped up to 190 & got shredded. After accomplishing that goal, breaking 200lbs was next, never been 200lbs at that time. Then from there I kept saying "just 10 more pounds" lol
 
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Ha! Very true. My girl asks at least twice a week; "when are you gonna stop?". Then tells me I need to do some more shopping for clothes.

It's fun, I'm sure I'm not the only one
 
I would run a test only cycle if this is your first time running aas. Start with a low does amd adjust accordingly. I ran test only for my first time just to see how my body reacted to it, then started to experiment with different esters. It's much easier to see how your body reacts when running fewer compounds. Also, make sure you have your pct in hand before you start.
 
JoshBlaze said:
I wouldn't run Tren on your first cycle bro. That is some potent shit. It's best to run test only on your first cycle so you will know how your body is gonna react to gear. Also, Tren A would be much better, cause it's a shorter ester if you get some nasty side effects you can adjust your dose and get quicker results. With Tren E if you get bad side effects it will take a longer time to adjust your dose. What is your goals? Your stats? Good luck bro
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Would it be better to start out with a test base no ester or is the test e fine? Thanks for the input. This web site is great and thanks for all the help. Also pct? I'm going to get my blood work done before starting to gage what's going on.
 
No no and no. Test base is a horrible idea. Its only good as an add on pwo. You need like test e or test c. I prefer test cyp.

KRAZIEONE - for all your DIO LABS needs....
 
For my first cycle I'm going to go with the test e and some dbol or would deca be a better mix with the test. Would dbol be better for bulking and deca better for cutting? Being my first cycle I don't really know what to expect. Iv read good things about the test c too? Is that somthing I should consider instead of the test e? Thanks everyone.
 
Flybot13 said:
Would it be better to start out with a test base no ester or is the test e fine? Thanks for the input. This web site is great and thanks for all the help. Also pct? I'm going to get my blood work done before starting to gage what's going on.
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Test E or cyp either one is more than fine. Clomid/Nolva would be fine for Pct on a test only cycle, but I'd run HCG with it too. Just to be safe. You can never have too much pct.
 
Flybot13 said:
For my first cycle I'm going to go with the test e and some dbol or would deca be a better mix with the test. Would dbol be better for bulking and deca better for cutting? Being my first cycle I don't really know what to expect. Iv read good things about the test c too? Is that somthing I should consider instead of the test e? Thanks everyone.
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Bro, you should do LOTS more research on these compounds before trying them. Make sure you know what's in the water before you dive in head first! There's plenty of info on here. I studied for almost 6 months before I ordered anything. Don't be in a rush. I'm sure you can go natty for a bit longer.
 
Deca is another to stay away from early on. It can shut you down really hard. There are so many simple cycles to try before adding tren or deca. Plenty of size can be achieved before these compounds.
 
Ya your right. Thanks for the info. I get a little ahead of myself sometimes. I'm trying to get everything figured out, what would be best for a first cycle there's just so much out there. I diffidently agree tho that I just need to start out slow, have plenty of time ahead to start building.
 
You can get some really good gains on test e or cyp only cycle. Then after that if your still not where you want to be, you can experiment. 500mgs wk will do wonders.
 
Flybot13 said:
Ya your right. Thanks for the info. I get a little ahead of myself sometimes. I'm trying to get everything figured out, what would be best for a first cycle there's just so much out there. I diffidently agree tho that I just need to start out slow, have plenty of time ahead to start building.
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Bro..Take the guys advice through out the thread...

Test only is the way to go . A lot of guys push to use 500mg of test per week which isnt bad you'll definitely obtain results especially on a first cycle.

But you need to do more research. You have no idea what these compounds will do to your body yet. I recommend Test cyp. 300mg (2pins wk.) first 3 or 4 weeks.

If your body handles it fine and you want to increase than increase...But deca.......big no no bro. This site is full of information and experienced guys willing to help. Listen, take

their advice. But more importantly , do your own. Dont just take our word for it.

Good luck with your cycle brother
 
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