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This was 160mg per week last week I started doing 200
 

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Wtf is going on how exactly is elite body an approved source?
We are an approved source because our gear is good, and have many happy customers.

What we don't appreciate are people that shoot off thier mouths in posts before even reaching out by DM to see what is going on.

We would hate to have @HarleyGuy chew on you a little if youre squawking turns out to be bullshit.

We will look into the details to see what this is all about.
 
We are an approved source because our gear is good, and have many happy customers.

What we don't appreciate are people that shoot off thier mouths in posts before even reaching out by DM to see what is going on.

We would hate to have @HarleyGuy chew on you a little if youre squawking turns out to be bullshit.

We will look into the details to see what this is all about.
You think that's smart to say? I've been using your bunk product for three months. Why would I fake a blood test?

No your gear is not good. My blood test proves that. Since you have no lab tests showing purity we are supposed to blindly trust? Never again
 
We are an approved source because our gear is good, and have many happy customers.

What we don't appreciate are people that shoot off thier mouths in posts before even reaching out by DM to see what is going on.

We would hate to have @HarleyGuy chew on you a little if youre squawking turns out to be bullshit.

We will look into the details to see what this is all about.
He will need a looking into not chewing out.

No I had done 200 that week and the 8 or 9 weeks before that I was at 160 a week
not good @stevedude19 can you post your gear pics as well please
 
You think that's smart to say? I've been using your bunk product for three months. Why would I fake a blood test?

No your gear is not good. My blood test proves that. Since you have no lab tests showing purity we are supposed to blindly trust? Never again
I understand the surprise and frustration you must feel but It means nothing but preliminary complaining until you work this out with @pur-pharma-canada who will be totally transparent as well as post pics of your gear with the full label and boxes they came in. Your bloodwork is noted and thanks for posting.

One way or another I will be speaking with someone so please report back here the conversation now that it's in the open as EVO is entirely transparent. Was this your first ever order of PUR gear and was the order from 3 months ago?
 
I understand the surprise and frustration you must feel but It means nothing but preliminary complaining until you work this out with @pur-pharma-canada who will be totally transparent as well as post pics of your gear with the full label and boxes they came in. Your bloodwork is noted and thanks for posting.

One way or another I will be speaking with someone so please report back here the conversation now that it's in the open as EVO is entirely transparent. Was this your first ever order of PUR gear and was the order from 3 months ago?
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Yes ordered march 9th
 
Thank you for the pics. Please report back here with a debrief of your resolution and explanation from @pur-pharma-canada. Let us know as well when you've replied to their email reaching out to you for a discussion so we know some dialogue is taking place and under way. If you don't write back to him @pur-pharma-canada will let us know about it.
Ya he just accused me of shit talking and said their gear was good. Asked for my order number but that was it.
 
Ya he just accused me of shit talking and said their gear was good. Asked for my order number but that was it.
Punchline to this was did you give him the order number?
 
The same thing happened to me. I ordered Testosterone Cypionate, Tren, Deca, and Anavar from Pur Pharma through EliteBody.ca. I was running 500 mg of testosterone per week for five weeks before getting blood work done, and my blood work were very disappointing.

I’ve placed two orders with them, and I regret doing so. Attached is a picture of my lab results along with some of the products I received. Based on my blood work, I’m convinced that the testosterone is underdosed or completely bunk, so I’ve stopped using all of their products.
 

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We have DM'ed @Luckysta for some details.

This is obvious, but just so everyone knows - we take this very seriously.

Having a few bad bottles out of hundreds doesn't exactly make sense at the moment.
If we discover that the Lab had an issue there is no doubt that we will make this right.
We are actively investigating.

We have always stood behind Pur-Pharma-Canada, but know that we also stand beside you.
Lets try not to get too carried away though, Pur Pharma has been around a very long time, we will get to the bottom of this.

@pur-pharma-canada
 
We have DM'ed @Luckysta for some details.

This is obvious, but just so everyone knows - we take this very seriously.

Having a few bad bottles out of hundreds doesn't exactly make sense at the moment.
If we discover that the Lab had an issue there is no doubt that we will make this right.
We are actively investigating.

We have always stood behind Pur-Pharma-Canada, but know that we also stand beside you.
Lets try not to get too carried away though, Pur Pharma has been around a very long time, we will get to the bottom of this.

@pur-pharma-canada
Back in October I ordered a tmt blend from you...

Order number: 3929

Seemed
very underdosed to me (if not worse). I didn't say anything at the time because i couldnt do bloods to back it up, and without proof i wouldn't accuse anyone of anything.

But if it turns out there was a bad batch/problem at the lab then I hope this is dealt with properly.

As an FYI, I browse all the Canadian gear forums, and this issue is being raised in other places as well.

Also, these things are completly avoidable by simply testing raws, it is simply unacceptable imo to brew untested raws because you trust a supplier, and then send out bunk gear to people (if thats what happened)
 
Back in October I ordered a tmt blend from you...

Order number: 3929

Seemed
very underdosed to me (if not worse). I didn't say anything at the time because i couldnt do bloods to back it up, and without proof i wouldn't accuse anyone of anything.

But if it turns out there was a bad batch/problem at the lab then I hope this is dealt with properly.

As an FYI, I browse all the Canadian gear forums, and this issue is being raised in other places as well.

Also, these things are completly avoidable by simply testing raws, it is simply unacceptable imo to brew untested raws because you trust a supplier, and then send out bunk gear to people (if thats what happened)
Just so I understand you’re saying this is an issue being raised about Pur on other Canadian gear forums or just Canadian gear in general?
 
Back in October I ordered a tmt blend from you...

Order number: 3929

Seemed
very underdosed to me (if not worse). I didn't say anything at the time because i couldnt do bloods to back it up, and without proof i wouldn't accuse anyone of anything.

But if it turns out there was a bad batch/problem at the lab then I hope this is dealt with properly.

As an FYI, I browse all the Canadian gear forums, and this issue is being raised in other places as well.

Also, these things are completly avoidable by simply testing raws, it is simply unacceptable imo to brew untested raws because you trust a supplier, and then send out bunk gear to people (if thats what happened)
The plot thickens....

https://canadianbrawn.com/threads/pür-pharma.17578/page-2
 
I won’t lie and say I haven’t got gains but I also just got a coach and added hgh and slin but I feel like garbage and am getting anxiety I posted on other form I’ve been just shy of a gram of Pur test e and 300 tren ace for the last 3-4 weeks just added in 300 eq from oxygen why the high dosage I’m going for a push at 21 to compete next summer anyhow it sucks I swear I’ve been pinning vegetable oil from pur currently sitting in chair at life labs getting bloods let’s see for reference here was my bloods on 400 test c from biogenix I’ll post asap and let y’all know
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I won’t lie and say I haven’t got gains but I also just got a coach and added hgh and slin but I feel like garbage and am getting anxiety I posted on other form I’ve been just shy of a gram of Pur test e and 300 tren ace for the last 3-4 weeks just added in 300 eq from oxygen why the high dosage I’m going for a push at 21 to compete next summer anyhow it sucks I swear I’ve been pinning vegetable oil from pur currently sitting in chair at life labs getting bloods let’s see for reference here was my bloods on 400 test c from biogenix I’ll post asap and let y’all know View attachment 242676
Now if you know me, Im fairly modest with my doses, right now im happy with 20mg test prop and 20mg tren ace EOD

I can feel the test prop at that dose.

The blend I had from pur was 300mgs per mil, 100 tren, 100 test prop, 100 mast.

I was running up to 3 mil a week (900mg) and basically nothing. So something was off, but like I said earlier, I dont have bloods to back it up
 
Now if you know me, Im fairly modest with my doses, right now im happy with 20mg test prop and 20mg tren ace EOD

I can feel the test prop at that dose.

The blend I had from pur was 300mgs per mil, 100 tren, 100 test prop, 100 mast.

I was running up to 3 mil a week (900mg) and basically nothing. So something was off, but like I said earlier, I dont have bloods to back it up
Gotta trust that lived experience though. A man knows his body and how it responds. Only he can tell you if something isn’t preforming up to standard. BW or not, that’s testimony that deserves an explanation
 
Gotta trust that lived experience though. A man knows his body and how it responds. Only he can tell you if something isn’t preforming up to standard. BW or not, that’s testimony that deserves an explanation
At the time i had nothing to compare it to, I had only done test cyp before, no tren, no mast, no prop.

But now I think I can safely say that I know how test prop feels an how my body reacts...and I had bone of that on the blend (at 5x the dose)
 
The same thing happened to me. I ordered Testosterone Cypionate, Tren, Deca, and Anavar from Pur Pharma through EliteBody.ca. I was running 500 mg of testosterone per week for five weeks before getting blood work done, and my blood work were very disappointing.

I’ve placed two orders with them, and I regret doing so. Attached is a picture of my lab results along with some of the products I received. Based on my blood work, I’m convinced that the testosterone is underdosed or completely bunk, so I’ve stopped using all of their products.
Why wait til now to say something after getting these bloods done on 30Apr? Did you ever take this up with @pur-pharma-canada?

While presumably a pre-existing Jano test of the raws would shut all this down there doesn't seem to be one but I'm also wondering why there's a few "1st time posters" all of a sudden with bloodwork and complaints crawling out of the woodworks with no Jano's of their own either and with gear left in the vial months later with no COA's before we jump to conclusions. There's no receipts here except everyone's word so assuming everyone is being honest it will come down to COA's. I'm staying neutral on both sides here and drawing no conclusions until we know the facts and have answers.
 
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Nobody wants to spend money to jano a lab who couldn’t even bother to test there raws easier to switch it’s pretty hard to give receipts also this is the whole purposed of this form is to provide feedback why do you need a coa only when the products bad it’s pretty obvious when your pinning vegetable oil what do I get out of going out of my way to buy a jano on gear I know is fake 2nd Janos are easy to fake like there’s plenty’s of brands who only do one jano and you can choose what to send there si Can be faked good or bad
 
Why wait til now to say something after getting these bloods done on 30Apr? Did you ever take this up with @pur-pharma-canada?

While presumably a pre-existing Jano test of the raws would shut all this down there doesn't seem to be one but I'm also wondering why there's a few "1st time posters" all of a sudden with bloodwork and complaints crawling out of the woodworks with no Jano's of their own either and with gear left in the vial months later with no COA's before we jump to conclusions. There's no receipts here except everyone's word so assuming everyone is being honest it will come down to COA's. I'm staying neutral on both sides here and drawing no conclusions until we know the facts and have answers.
I appreciate your neutrality here but wasn’t their original post saying that the lab they represent couldn’t be assed to test their raws/product so this could very well be the fruits of their lack of effort on that front. I’m sure elite is just a source for this lab however this doesn’t look great on all fronts.

I don’t think it’s a good look when they post saying that they aren’t happy with the lab’s testing efforts and then a few posts later threaten to get you after said customer for posting their honest feedback with backed bloodwork. But that’s just non-confrontational wye’s outside looking in opinion.
 
Nobody wants to spend money to jano a lab who couldn’t even bother to test there raws easier to switch it’s pretty hard to give receipts also this is the whole purposed of this form is to provide feedback why do you need a coa only when the products bad it’s pretty obvious when your pinning vegetable oil what do I get out of going out of my way to buy a jano on gear I know is fake 2nd Janos are easy to fake like there’s plenty’s of brands who only do one jano and you can choose what to send there si Can be faked good or bad
Links to Jano’s authentic domain with his COA’s are legit. Like I said a Jano of the raw material ought to have been @pur-pharma-canada’s reply but it wasn’t. Now we’re asking both sides of the argument after the fact.

This will be dealt with and I’m not picking sides just yet. Presumably I pick sides on the side of the source but not always. This is one of those times.

I agree @wye this doesn’t look good but I’m also looking at everyone involved it being all their first post and coming out of the woodwork to join the party and some with bloods from April never having said anything or approached PUR. @BritishCanadian ’s opinion means the most to me here vs the thousands of trolls on here who do this all the time and now one who admits Jano’s can be faked so why not bloodwork too when they think a sinking ship is going down they’re throwing weights onto it possibly.

@Farmboy I don’t have my cut and paste for our Team right now I’m in the car but if anyone wants to tag them all they should watch this go down and learn the process of complaints.
 
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Links to Jano’s authentic domain with his COA’s are legit. Like I said a Jano of the raw material ought to have been @pur-pharma-canada’s reply but it wasn’t. Now we’re asking both sides of the argument after the fact.

This will be dealt with and I’m not picking sides just yet. Presumably I pick sides on the side of the source but not always. This is one of those times.

I agree @wye this doesn’t look good but I’m also looking at everyone involved it being all their first post and coming out of the woodwork to join the party with bloods from April. @BritishCanadian’s opinion means the most to me here vs the thousands of trolls on here one who admits Jano’s can be faked so why not bloodwork too when they think a sinking ship is going down they’re throwing weights onto it possibly.
Harley your absolutely right I would jano it but given my fincial situation rn everything including peds is budgeted to the exact dollar I messed up dui went very bad and been paying it off I found passion in body building and got sober yes it does seem suspicious all those bloodwork’s and stuff if you need anything I am happy to assist I’m new to these forms and have been busy with my internship how ever it doesn’t make sense for me to go out of my way and test something if my bloods do show up bad then I know it’s bad and I’ll just switch sources yes bloods can definitely also be faked and I didn’t mean to sound douchy or be a troll or anything do what you gotta do end of the day I just dream of getting my pro card and it all starts with this off season I’m willing to take more risks and it’s upsetting that a gram of test isn’t working or feeling how it should work I also have a sealed vial I’ll mail for free if someone wants to test it
 

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It seems to me the bunk vials have been prevalent since beginning of March.

I originally had problems last page if anyone wants to take a look. Bought March 8th Test E, ran it for a month but had low T symptoms, took a blood test and my T was 7.5nmol.

Pur sent me a replacement vial in the week of April 24. Used it for 2 weeks, felt like shit still, and my testosterone came back 9.6nmol. I took Biogenix’s Test E and 2 weeks later my T shot back up to >52nmol on 262mg of Test E which I took throughout.

I sent the original March 8th vial to Jano but unfortunately my shit got seized multiple times. Canada customs, please don’t be a bitch. So I’m sending yet another vial and shipping to Czechia is $240 each time. So I’m down nearly $1k. But whatever, I want to know what I injected for piece of mind and will post the result here for all the others who have had a bad vial.

That said, I think it’s disappointing that there are a lot of people who are having issues and Pur Pharma is aware and continued to have products still up on elitebody.ca before the site went down for vacation. I think if you are aware that you are having quality concerns with your lab partner, you should be pulling all your inventory out so people aren’t deceived by getting bad quality products.

All the other approved sources on Evo have updated Jano’s and regularly test products. In my opinion, Pur Pharma has not kept up with the standards other sources have set.

I’ve heard many great things about Pur Pharma in the past, so I’m sure this can all be sorted out and they can come back better than before. I hate to see Canadian sources sink because we have so few of them left. So I will hope for the best!
 
Links to Jano’s authentic domain with his COA’s are legit. Like I said a Jano of the raw material ought to have been @pur-pharma-canada’s reply but it wasn’t. Now we’re asking both sides of the argument after the fact.

This will be dealt with and I’m not picking sides just yet. Presumably I pick sides on the side of the source but not always. This is one of those times.

I agree @wye this doesn’t look good but I’m also looking at everyone involved it being all their first post and coming out of the woodwork to join the party and some with bloods from April never having said anything or approached PUR. @BritishCanadian ’s opinion means the most to me here vs the thousands of trolls on here who do this all the time and now one who admits Jano’s can be faked so why not bloodwork too when they think a sinking ship is going down they’re throwing weights onto it possibly.

@Farmboy I don’t have my cut and paste for our Team right now I’m in the car but if anyone wants to tag them all they should watch this go down and learn the process of complaints.
At the time when I made my purchase (october) I dont think I was even a member of the forum, I just used to browse daily looking for a source.

If i had been a member I would have raised it at the time with pur and @HarleyGuy ...

And I think thats what's happening with these new users, there's probably a lot of people that browse here but dont post.

And again for clarity, I didmt have proof so I didnt say anything, but seeing how others are experiencing the same thing, I wanted to share my experience
 
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