Tren e/test or tren a/prop??

[ozcroboy]

Which wud u suggest for a lean bulk? Tren e n test e4d or tren a n prop e2d? What test wud u use with tren e that equivalent to prop in a longer ester?


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[nsnmatty]

Which wud u suggest for a lean bulk? Tren e n test e4d or tren a n prop e2d? What test wud u use with tren e that equivalent to prop in a longer ester?


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I don't really understand the last part. Equivalent how? Test is test. So test e or c will work with tren e and will have the same dart schedule.

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[ozcroboy]

Well test prop is a short ester requiring pins every other day. Is there a test with the same qualities that can be pinned e4d


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[nsnmatty]

I'm aware prop is a short ester just like test e or test c is a longer ester you can pin every 4 days....so what qualities are you referring to exactly?

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[Yeezus]

I would go with all short esters. Prop/ace

Black widow has this blend in a good mix too. The short esters are known for less water retent.
But it's basically prop (EOD
Pins) or e/c (2x a week. With a 4 week wait)

 

[Image0r]

Is this your first time using tren or test? Not knocking on you. Just trying to offer some helpful advice.




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[RickRock]

Some will say you retain less water on test P, but it is bogus nonsense in my opinion. There isn't much difference. It just comes down to how often you want to pin, and how quickly you want it to reach peak concentration. I prefer long esters myself

 

[ozcroboy]

I'm aware prop is a short ester just like test e or test c is a longer ester you can pin every 4 days....so what qualities are you referring to exactly?

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Less Water tension n vascularity


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[ozcroboy]

Is this your first time using tren or test? Not knocking on you. Just trying to offer some helpful advice.




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No. Tren e test e 10 weeks


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[ozcroboy]

Some will say you retain less water on test P, but it is bogus nonsense in my opinion. There isn't much difference. It just comes down to how often you want to pin, and how quickly you want it to reach peak concentration. I prefer long esters myself

Not fased bout pinning eod if the results are better


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[jbranken]

Some will say you retain less water on test P, but it is bogus nonsense in my opinion. There isn't much difference. It just comes down to how often you want to pin, and how quickly you want it to reach peak concentration. I prefer long esters myself

Listen to this advice. It's friggin test dude. Prop or enanthate or cyp or wtf ever... It's test. No better results with prop, just quicker build up

 

[ozcroboy]

Mite stick with the original plan of eod as I've ran the e4d route last tym. Compare for myself I guess. Tren/prop/winny shud cut n harden me up sweetly


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[Yeezus]

Listen to this advice. It's friggin test dude. Prop or enanthate or cyp or wtf ever... It's test. No better results with prop, just quicker build up

You know I've run prop cycles alone and e/c cycles alone, and prop kick start into a e/c cycle, and I've run prop several weeks before adding a e/c.... I've always noticed a difference in water retention. I think it has something to do with the shorter ester release doesnt hold like the long ones. The subject of "test is test" is true to a point but I don't think it's the same subject as this one. A lot of people abuse that saying... Because in reality yes the compound used as a base is testosterone but the ester makes a such a difference in many aspects. 100mg of test Suspenion isn't the same as 100mg of prop, or 100mg of Cyp. So if that is true, which it is, don't you think there are other effecting factors that may take place such as water retention. It had to of been part of a study or thought theory somewhere for it to occur as a issue of concerning matter of esters.

Or it could all just be bro science!

 

[Yeezus]

Not fased bout pinning eod if the results are better


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Exactly I pinned everyday for 8 weeks. Sometimes two im injections plus other subqs. And guess what I'm back at pinning EOD to finish off my cycles. Lol