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Sorry if this is a dumb question but is it just me or can everyone smell the oils for the entire day after injection lol. Its not a bad thing, my wife says she can only smell it when I have it out but not after I shower and stuff but I smell it all day! New results for me starting to feel a bit stronger, more endurance , and a lot more drive, not to mention I can train much longer, in fact I stop before I'm tired, I don't want to over do it, I'm getting stronger bit I want to give my joints and connected tissues a chance to catch up before I go to crazy, definitely a strength increase with some power starting to show, again I'm not sure how much as I'm going for more hardened and mature mass over pure size, but I can definitely feel the urge and ability to go much heavier, thoughts anyone? Should I increase the weight or just go five percent at a time like I have been? I do go heavier but not in leaps and bounds, I go in percentages, with each increase I stay there until its fully mastered at a 10-12 rep range, should I drop reps and go up in weight? I have always had steady gains training in this fashion, I've increased strength with heavier weight and lower reps, gotten bigger but not quality in my opinion, should I switch training now with the cycle, will it make a difference, I want quality lean muscle, not just mass, but cycleing is new to me, but I am afraid I'll put on a tin of size, not mature it and lose it if I go heavier and heavier before I can fully control the weight for proper rep counts

Yeah I know what you mean you might have gotten some of the oil on your fingers or something it does smell a little foul. That is something you have to decide for yourself as far as reps and working out, you can ask all day long but your body is different than everyone. Not to mention some people get more rest during the days etc so you need to figure it out yourself.
 
I woke up sick, this is my first illness while running a cycle, is there anything I should know?


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I woke up sick, this is my first illness while running a cycle, is there anything I should know?


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What the hell do you want to hear? Do you think you can not catch something while on gear......or do you think its the gear that made you sick elaborate.
 
What the hell do you want to hear? Do you think you can not catch something while on gear......or do you think its the gear that made you sick elaborate.

Methodman, I'm sick, is there anything I should know while on gear, stop running , lower my mg. Eat or drink more. Anything that goes with being sic while running gear? ANYTHINGi need to know or watch for?


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Methodman, I'm sick, is there anything I should know while on gear, stop running , lower my mg. Eat or drink more. Anything that goes with being sic while running gear? ANYTHINGi need to know or watch for?


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Well im no doctor, but there are some many things that vary. First off I have no idea what gear your running you have not explained what your symptoms are so I can not even begin to give a input.
 
Now this is just me! Ok if you feel like it is just a cold or something like this I would continue my routine same mg. etc maybe take a few days off from training give your body some rest and always stay hydrated regardless of being sick or not! You dont have to eat more or anything like that come on man you need to do more research on aas.
 
Methodman, I'm sick, is there anything I should know while on gear, stop running , lower my mg. Eat or drink more. Anything that goes with being sic while running gear? ANYTHINGi need to know or watch for?


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Gear won't make you sick and you don't have to stop just treat it like you would any other cold, vitamins rest etc
 
He's new, he's just being thorough and trying to gain knowledge. That's smarter than just jumping blindly into it and not knowing a thing about aas.

Thank you bro, I am supper through kind of guy. I have been in so much shit, I had my fucking guts falling out after being stabbed I seen both tib and fib come throu my leg, I had my shoulder ripped out but didn't get to see that, I woke up once in the hospital to find out if been there a few days I was in a coma from meningitis, have had screws back them selfs out of my shin. I've had wood in my arm for months until it backed itself out. Nothing shocks me everything is possible and want to be ready, being on top of my game. One step ahead I like to be


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Thank you bro, I am supper through kind of guy. I have been in so much shit, I had my fucking guts falling out after being stabbed I seen both tib and fib come throu my leg, I had my shoulder ripped out but didn't get to see that, I woke up once in the hospital to find out if been there a few days I was in a coma from meningitis, have had screws back them selfs out of my shin. I've had wood in my arm for months until it backed itself out. Nothing shocks me everything is possible and want to be ready, being on top of my game. One step ahead I like to be


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Not a problem I was stabbed too but in the chest with a ice pick no less, but luckily I got pissed and fought for my life and won, doc said inch to the right would of hit my heart. But no worries man if you have any questions just ask
 
By the way richiquick lol sounds like a fucked up porn star name

Dont I wisk lmfao, nope married with kids and a lame job! But I can dream brother lol

Not a problem I was stabbed too but in the chest with a ice pick no less, but luckily I got pissed and fought for my life and won, doc said inch to the right would of hit my heart. But no worries man if you have any questions just ask

I've been stabbed a few times, it sucks, didn't even know for awhile, something like an icepick, in prison, the infection was worse then then injury, but that's behind me, and I hope all of us. You can never be prepared for things, just strong enough to get through them, problems sneak up on the best of us, hopefully helping my kids with their homework is the worst of it now, I'm getting to old and smart for that shit. Gym and home, then work. I only talk to people here and no where else, I hope that the only pain in my life is a pip from this point on, I for one am tired of all of it!
 
I ran the 25mg NPP 3xweek 25mg Test E one week for 4 weeks then switched to the Test P at 25mg 3xweek for 4 weeks. 20mg Var day all from Express! Nothing but gains!!! I ran EQ from another lab. NOTHING BUT GAINS Bros! Nothing but GAINS! !! REAL TALK!
 
I ran the 25mg NPP 3xweek 25mg Test E one week for 4 weeks then switched to the Test P at 25mg 3xweek for 4 weeks. 20mg Var day all from Express! Nothing but gains!!! I ran EQ from another lab. NOTHING BUT GAINS Bros! Nothing but GAINS! !! REAL TALK!

Hellyeah good shit
 
I ran the 25mg NPP 3xweek 25mg Test E one week for 4 weeks then switched to the Test P at 25mg 3xweek for 4 weeks. 20mg Var day all from Express! Nothing but gains!!! I ran EQ from another lab. NOTHING BUT GAINS Bros! Nothing but GAINS! !! REAL TALK!

Check out some of the new stuff w got going on, may be helpful for next time.
 
I ran the 25mg NPP 3xweek 25mg Test E one week for 4 weeks then switched to the Test P at 25mg 3xweek for 4 weeks. 20mg Var day all from Express! Nothing but gains!!! I ran EQ from another lab. NOTHING BUT GAINS Bros! Nothing but GAINS! !! REAL TALK!

Awesome glad you had good results if you haven't yet don't forget to vote
 
Well happy birthday to me! I just received a my package minutes before I had to leave town for the week! Talk about great service and speed of delivery! Thanks Domestic Express! A Good day just turned into a great day! All beautifully wrapped and secure, safe and sound, I haven't gone through it all yet but I'm positive everything is what it should be, a definite ten as of service and dealing with them, wonderfully understanding and helpful in all respects!
 
Well happy birthday to me! I just received a my package minutes before I had to leave town for the week! Talk about great service and speed of delivery! Thanks Domestic Express! A Good day just turned into a great day! All beautifully wrapped and secure, safe and sound, I haven't gone through it all yet but I'm positive everything is what it should be, a definite ten as of service and dealing with them, wonderfully understanding and helpful in all respects!

Glad to hear man and thank you
 
Anyone run their Tren ace? That's some of the cheapest tren I've seen.

Sorry if it's been discussed but 190+ pages is alot.
 
I've been running the test p and tren ace for over 2 weeks and is recommend it it's as good if not a lil better then wat I ran in the past sides aren't that bad wake up hot as he'll every night hard to stay asleep but that just lets me know it's working so give it a try bro
 
I told myself I wouldn't spend my income tax on tren... but it looks like I'll be spending my income tax on tren.

We got some tren base now, So keep it in mind for preworkout. We Have a tne/tren base on the way but I can't really say when that's going to get here.
 
Hope everyone out there has a good day. Its beautiful outside where im at. Did my morning cardio man really does wonders for the mind and body breathing the fresh air and shit. If somebody ever tells you cardio is not necessary meh may be so but the benefits for the mind and body feels good then a nice cup of joe afterwards man no words. Stay safe and and stay hydrated niggs
 
Hope everyone out there has a good day. Its beautiful outside where im at. Did my morning cardio man really does wonders for the mind and body breathing the fresh air and shit. If somebody ever tells you cardio is not necessary meh may be so but the benefits for the mind and body feels good then a nice cup of joe afterwards man no words. Stay safe and and stay hydrated niggs

Yeah its sunny but only °33 here lol but yes hope everyone has a good and gets their pump on
 
Hope everyone out there has a good day. Its beautiful outside where im at. Did my morning cardio man really does wonders for the mind and body breathing the fresh air and shit. If somebody ever tells you cardio is not necessary meh may be so but the benefits for the mind and body feels good then a nice cup of joe afterwards man no words. Stay safe and and stay hydrated niggs
Very true! I have a busy work schedule and kids, but a good ,even short jog wakes me up and gets me ready to face the day!
 
Het feel as I have a question, anyone ever have a 25 guage pop, do lack of a better word? I can't find the pin from the top, I don't feel it in the muscle or anything, would I?
 
Felt injection, everything as usual and at the very bottom of the injection I heard a loud hiss and the tip of the rig is missing, I feel no pain, it was a inch long tip, just gone, the plastic piece is still attached to the gear, just the metal pin is gone, I feel nothing in the muscle or any pain at all, would it just have come out? If it was in there I'd feel it, right?
 
I mean its the felt, not the hugest of muscle, so by squeezing and poking I'd feel it if it was in there right? Its probally on the floor, I hope! I'm searching now.
 
Felt injection, everything as usual and at the very bottom of the injection I heard a loud hiss and the tip of the rig is missing, I feel no pain, it was a inch long tip, just gone, the plastic piece is still attached to the gear, just the metal pin is gone, I feel nothing in the muscle or any pain at all, would it just have come out? If it was in there I'd feel it, right?

Bro if you can't find it its in you, you need to get that out you have to go to the drs
 
I mean its the felt, not the hugest of muscle, so by squeezing and poking I'd feel it if it was in there right? Its probally on the floor, I hope! I'm searching now.

If it broke when it was inside your arm then its undoubtedly in your arm still. I never heard of this actually happening, like how the hell did that even happen, what brand needle was it.
 
I mean its the felt, not the hugest of muscle, so by squeezing and poking I'd feel it if it was in there right? Its probally on the floor, I hope! I'm searching now.

Its the same as getting a wooden splinter stuck in you. You may not feel it right now, but you will definitely feel it if you leave it in there for too long. It will get swollen and infected. I wouldn't try squeezing or digging too much on your own, as you may just push it deeper.
 
Bro if you can't find it its in you, you need to get that out you have to go to the drs

I will, I just called the pharmacy, and they said they are gonna check to see if the 25 guages they have might have been a new batch, I have my fingers crossed.I do think I'm okay, I talked to the pharmacy and they said I should feel something if its in there, if its not found I'll get checked regardless, I made sure to call them first to get those off the market before it happens again. I had the same type of pin act up a few days ago, its the first and last time I'll use that brand. I am not sure if its allowed or if you guys would like to know but I'd post the brand up so people can be mind full if they come across them. I'm just glad it was a felt shot, a quad or flute shot might have been even harder to locate the pin, if its even in there
 
Bro if you can't find it its in you, you need to get that out you have to go to the drs

Its the same as getting a wooden splinter stuck in you. You may not feel it right now, but you will definitely feel it if you leave it in there for too long. It will get swollen and infected. I wouldn't try squeezing or digging too much on your own, as you may just push it deeper.
Advice taken, I'm just gonna go get checked to be safe. I don't need an abcess or infection. Even the pharmacy had never heard of this happening before, I'm sure it has at some point though. It was just strange, everything was just fine, then a hiss and pop, weird. I'll let you guys know what happens later, thanks!
 
Advice taken, I'm just gonna go get checked to be safe. I don't need an abcess or infection. Even the pharmacy had never heard of this happening before, I'm sure it has at some point though. It was just strange, everything was just fine, then a hiss and pop, weird. I'll let you guys know what happens later, thanks!

Yeah you can tell us the name brand name and don't take medical advise from a pharmacist they aren't even aloud to give medical advice they're supposed to tell you to call the drs which you should do. But I asked you before and you didn't answer, did it happen when the needle was inside you?
 
I got it out, it was in there. It took a few seconds tops, I'm glad I went. At first I thought it might have been a safety but they were an older style bought from a small pharmacy, and I have retractable ones, almost all, those were bought just because the weather kept me from going where I usually go. Thanks for the advice guys, now I gotta wait and see if tomorrow is gonna hold any pain, I don't mind pain but I just hope it doesn't effect my training to much. I'm thinking of leaving for a fee days, train laegs tomorrow and take a day to just let it heal a bit. I used the arm quite a bit while it was still in there so well see what that did.
 
I got it out, it was in there. It took a few seconds tops, I'm glad I went. At first I thought it might have been a safety but they were an older style bought from a small pharmacy, and I have retractable ones, almost all, those were bought just because the weather kept me from going where I usually go. Thanks for the advice guys, now I gotta wait and see if tomorrow is gonna hold any pain, I don't mind pain but I just hope it doesn't effect my training to much. I'm thinking of leaving for a fee days, train laegs tomorrow and take a day to just let it heal a bit. I used the arm quite a bit while it was still in there so well see what that did.

Well that's good you got it out, holy hell are you lucky
 
I'm gonna get ahold of the manufacturer, and I've already went to where I got them. It was just strange, there had to be some sort of air leak in that thing, it literally popped and the tip shot out like a dart bro, I'm glad I didn't know for sure it was in there until I went to the doctor, that shit would have freaked me and I would've tried to get it out myself and who knows what I would've done to myself. At the moment I'm just happy its out, and that I did go, imagine what that thing could've done if I left it there! Thanks for the advice and good wishes fellas.
 
I'm gonna get ahold of the manufacturer, and I've already went to where I got them. It was just strange, there had to be some sort of air leak in that thing, it literally popped and the tip shot out like a dart bro, I'm glad I didn't know for sure it was in there until I went to the doctor, that shit would have freaked me and I would've tried to get it out myself and who knows what I would've done to myself. At the moment I'm just happy its out, and that I did go, imagine what that thing could've done if I left it there! Thanks for the advice and good wishes fellas.

What's the brand name man, let us know so we can avoid them
 
Shit on a dick.....I would have tripped out man. Yeah spit that shit out man I figured the firsf thing you would have said was dont buy this blah blah etc.
 
Alright so ive been cutting for a couple weeks now....Im down to about 12% maybe 10% bodyfat I usually like to stay under 10 but I had personal issues going on aka oreos. Anyways I have decided to do a controlled bulk try to stay under 13% 15%. Then cut down possibly for a show. Just want to see what others opinions on there ideal bulking stack. Not cutting because I already have a favorite and will never change lol
 
Alright so ive been cutting for a couple weeks now....Im down to about 12% maybe 10% bodyfat I usually like to stay under 10 but I had personal issues going on aka oreos. Anyways I have decided to do a controlled bulk try to stay under 13% 15%. Then cut down possibly for a show. Just want to see what others opinions on there ideal bulking stack. Not cutting because I already have a favorite and will never change lol

You know everyone response to aas is different but I get huge of test e, deca and dbol. Note that I never had to go above 300mg of deca a week bc my response to it is amazing. Oh and throw so gh in there to get the igf up and bam
 
I've said this before but for the newer members if you have any questions that I can help with just post or pm me and hope all you guy's are still killing it in the gym and not letting the winter blues make you too lazy haha
 
You know everyone response to aas is different but I get huge of test e, deca and dbol. Note that I never had to go above 300mg of deca a week bc my response to it is amazing. Oh and throw so gh in there to get the igf up and bam

Thanks bro sounds pretty good that's the one aas I have never tried deca. I was thinking for the bulk phase either deca or tren with some test not a big fan of dbol might run oral not to sure
 
Received my second order yesterday placed order Friday got it Monday it don't get better then that got the tren base gonna see what it'll do thanks express
 
Thanks bro sounds pretty good that's the one aas I have never tried deca. I was thinking for the bulk phase either deca or tren with some test not a big fan of dbol might run oral not to sure

Deca is much easier than tren but tren is better while cutting deca is more suited for bulking
 
Received my second order yesterday placed order Friday got it Monday it don't get better then that got the tren base gonna see what it'll do thanks express

Glad your happy bro, let us know how you like the tren base and don't forget to vote once you've used it long enough.
 
Yes I've ran tren a 2 times before once with test p and once with test e 250 tren doesn't give me crazy sides my body does well with it I think
 
Yes I've ran tren a 2 times before once with test p and once with test e 250 tren doesn't give me crazy sides my body does well with it I think

Well there's two ways ppl run base compounds, some run it pre workout and others run it every day, depending on your doses I would run 50-75mg ed or pwo but most that just run it pwo are already running tren ace or e and just use the base as an add in for pwo but if you really wanted you can run it just pwo without running any other esters of tren
 
Well there's two ways ppl run base compounds, some run it pre workout and others run it every day, depending on your doses I would run 50-75mg ed or pwo but most that just run it pwo are already running tren ace or e and just use the base as an add in for pwo but if you really wanted you can run it just pwo without running any other esters of tren

Ok thanks that helps I am running tren a as well but wasn't sure if I could or should run them together I felt it this morning it really kicked in during my workout this is the first time using the tren base so I'll keep you posted and the test p 300 eod would be good or what is ur recommendation on that I've been running tren a and test p 100 at 50 mg each ed but now I did a lil change to my cycle to test p 300 tren a 100 And tren base wat do you think as far as dosage for my cycle
 
Ok thanks that helps I am running tren a as well but wasn't sure if I could or should run them together I felt it this morning it really kicked in during my workout this is the first time using the tren base so I'll keep you posted and the test p 300 eod would be good or what is ur recommendation on that I've been running tren a and test p 100 at 50 mg each ed but now I did a lil change to my cycle to test p 300 tren a 100 And tren base wat do you think as far as dosage for my cycle

50-100mg mg of each ed is good but that is up to you ultimately, if you've only ran a few cycles you don't want to go to s gram a week bc its way too early for that. Also test p can be run eod, ace ed, but you can run a prop ester ed if you wanted.
 
50-100mg mg of each ed is good but that is up to you ultimately, if you've only ran a few cycles you don't want to go to s gram a week bc its way too early for that. Also test p can be run eod, ace ed, but you can run a prop ester ed if you wanted.

Thanks for your help you guys have answered all my question I've had and that means a lot not just on here but via email as well I've ran about 10 cycles total I only listed the tren cycle bc that's wat we was talking about my bad on that I've ran mostly test e 250 and deca cycles and really enjoyed my results but as age catches up to me I find myself trying to cut more I cnt wait to see what happens with this cycle I'm really thinking about putting the gh in it
 
Thanks for your help you guys have answered all my question I've had and that means a lot not just on here but via email as well I've ran about 10 cycles total I only listed the tren cycle bc that's wat we was talking about my bad on that I've ran mostly test e 250 and deca cycles and really enjoyed my results but as age catches up to me I find myself trying to cut more I cnt wait to see what happens with this cycle I'm really thinking about putting the gh in it

Do it up bro gh is great for slimming down that mid section there's seriously nothing like it but you'll see if you grab some.
 
Ok so if I ran 5iu per day how long would I need to run it to see the full affect of it

To see maximum effects like 6 months and some run it more if not year round. When I've ran gh I always noticed that slimming effect on my mid section after only a few weeks but the slimmer you are the more you will notice faster which makes sense
 
To see maximum effects like 6 months and some run it more if not year round. When I've ran gh I always noticed that slimming effect on my mid section after only a few weeks but the slimmer you are the more you will notice faster which makes sense

At what dosage did you run it at
 
Just wanted to give a quick shoutout to domestic express. Ordering, prices, payment, communication, delivery and packaging were all spot on. I cant wait to run the gear, waiting on some pct stuff from another source. Thank you!
 
Just wanted to give a quick shoutout to domestic express. Ordering, prices, payment, communication, delivery and packaging were all spot on. I cant wait to run the gear, waiting on some pct stuff from another source. Thank you!

Never a problem bro always good to hear back from customers, I'm sure you'll be satisfied overall once you used everything and don't forget to vote once you've used everything or given it sufficient time to fully kick in.
 
Well that's all I'm on I use 1 ml every day I couldn't sleep I went 1 ml every other day and still nothing I have to take stuff to sleep
 
Well that's all I'm on I use 1 ml every day I couldn't sleep I went 1 ml every other day and still nothing I have to take stuff to sleep

I understand but testosterone doesn't effect the body chemistry like that, if anything it may help you sleep. There's maybe something else that's effecting your sleep, maybe a natural factor.
 
Just placed an order last night also ...waiting on email . New to the forum and excited to try the products . I'll keep an eye on my spam folder . Thanks !
 
I wouldn't worry, its a takes a few depending on the time you ordered. Its a quick and painless process, they will take care of you.

we are not currently taking orders because we have to catch up, we are planning on being there by tomorrow afternoon, we will send out all payment info then. One of our largest selling points is a 2-5 day ta, usually on the lower end of the scale and we do not want to greedy and start losing who we are.
 
also adding an multi kit option for our gh, 5 kits, 100 iu per kit, 500 iu total for $900

we have seen serum tests on verified angtropin come back at 27 with igf count of 505 at 4 iu's per day
 
we are not currently taking orders because we have to catch up, we are planning on being there by tomorrow afternoon, we will send out all payment info then. One of our largest selling points is a 2-5 day ta, usually on the lower end of the scale and we do not want to greedy and start losing who we are.

You're a good guy..
 
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