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Crazy Pip!!!

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Ordered some test prop & Tren ace last week had my first jab last Wednesday pip wasn't too bad but Friday & Sunday's I could barely walk the days after. Im injecting into my quad just like before. This is my third cylce i've never experienced anything like this before. Thing is I don't wanna chuck it cause the is actually working in less then a week of my first jab. I just wanna know if anyone has any techniques they can offer to be to help so it's less pip
 
Have you injected there before? I will never forget my first quad injection, i couldnt walk for 3 days. The first time you hit a muscle sucks.

If this isn't your first time maybe try diluting the prop with EQ or B12
 
Are you going into the Top or Sides of the Quad ?
Have you been taking your time while Injecting, and giving the Area a little Light Massage afterwards.
Also doing a Few Light Sets of Leg work can be Helpful, again it helps to Disperse the Oil into the Muscle.
As "Shweze" said, warming up the Oil can also be Helpful.

What Size Pins are you using ?
Lastly, who's the Oils from, it just might be there Prop has a Lot of PIP.

Before I forget, are you Mixing the Two Oils together, if you are, It's the Manufacturer................................... JP
P.S.
I've had Oils that were PIPPY before, and when I Mixed them with another AAS, the PIP was Reduced Significantly.
P.S.S.
If you are Mixing and Still getting Bad PIP, you may just have to Ride this Out.
 
before injecting like they all said make sure you heat up your oils substantially, are they in clear or amber vials? second people need to learn how to properly inject, and not be afraid of getting that tip in there deep. When your injecting, you want to see the site dimple in, but the most important is the WAY YOU GRIP THAT SYRINGE. jab it in, (I go slow personally) but once its in, I switch my grip. wrapping my hand around the entire thing inside of palm completely touching with your pinky finger extended out a bit to hold it in place stabilized. None of that hovering shit, youll watch that thing go from left to right, yp down, in some out some lol... get it in, hold it filmly, and dont be afraid of letting that needle sit in sight because it should remain there for a while as you take your sweet ass time, using your pointer. It aint a fucking flu shot, and it aint a race. Another big suggestion, is to have your wet hot alcohol/water soaked towel obvioiusly ready, and after pulling that needle apply straight down pressure, and only.... straight down pressure, push down lightly and hold it there for as long as you'd like. do not go in motions.... light pressure thats it. Just suggestions that need to be reminded... not suggesting you dont know how to pin. now, WHO ARE YOUR OILS FROM?
 
like jp mentioned also, odd because mixing compounds/esters should really help with pip... who's the shit from man?
 
Have you used prop before? Some people always get pip from test prop. Try doing two pins, one with tren and one with prop to see which compound is giving you trouble
 
I give shots every week, and a lot of ass shots..
Speaking from experience it sounds like he injected into rectus femoris/vastus intermedius instead of vastus lateralis, that group of muscle has more pain sensors and have even stuck myself there once.. lol.
make sure that you hit the side, anything more than an inch deep on smaller legs can hit the wrong spot.. or arteries lol
 
IMAG0320-1.webp Make sure you are hitting these spots.. And make sure you are doing it right as well.. If the pain persists... Try injecting in other areas.
 
I give shots every week, and a lot of ass shots..
Speaking from experience it sounds like he injected into rectus femoris/vastus intermedius instead of vastus lateralis, that group of muscle has more pain sensors and have even stuck myself there once.. lol.
make sure that you hit the side, anything more than an inch deep on smaller legs can hit the wrong spot.. or arteries lol

He meant "takes" a lot of em... pip must be horrible... and its a sin.... hahaa... I use 1" 23g always. Anyhow is this post after one poke in one particular area? or regardless... delts, glutes, pecs, quads... all same pip or what
 
View attachment 8750 Make sure you are hitting these spots.. And make sure you are doing it right as well.. If the pain persists... Try injecting in other areas. If you still feel pain then make sure you are getting the real stuff.. Sometimes you can hit it on the wrong muscle...
 
Appreciate the replies boys... Yeah I'm hitting the side of the quad as I done all my previous cycles. This is my first time running a faster ester though, all my others was enthanate & cypinate cycles. Last night for the first time I ran my vials under a hot time for a good 45 seconds also I did it in the syringe when it was loaded up just Incase it cooled back down. Not it was still painful this morning but not as bad as before. I can still feel pain when I bend my leg but it's a lot less, kinda feels like it's bruised even when I touched the site wear I put the needle in kinda like a deadleg. I also (Dont know if this is a good thing) but I tend to have a jab before bed but obviously don't sleep on the certain side where I've just injected.
 
Go with AM Shots instead of PM.
This way you have the Entire Day to get that Oil Dispersed through Walking around.............................. JP
P.S.
Injecting before Bed could be Adding to the Existing Problem.
 
I've heard a heating pad helps heating up the vial in it placing the heating pad on the spot and massaging while it's there.. Then as JP mentioned in the Am you will be moving about all day dispersing the oil instead of semi active then going to bed letting it just remain basically a large clump...

Please note I have not done a cycle yet I am looking into sources and working on my body fat percentage after being lazy and using my surgery as an excuse to slack off.. But I do believe I am relatively knowledgeable due to interacting with people in the community and my extensive studying..


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before injecting like they all said make sure you heat up your oils substantially, are they in clear or amber vials? second people need to learn how to properly inject, and not be afraid of getting that tip in there deep. When your injecting, you want to see the site dimple in, but the most important is the WAY YOU GRIP THAT SYRINGE. jab it in, (I go slow personally) but once its in, I switch my grip. wrapping my hand around the entire thing inside of palm completely touching with your pinky finger extended out a bit to hold it in place stabilized. None of that hovering shit, youll watch that thing go from left to right, yp down, in some out some lol... get it in, hold it filmly, and dont be afraid of letting that needle sit in sight because it should remain there for a while as you take your sweet ass time, using your pointer. It aint a fucking flu shot, and it aint a race. Another big suggestion, is to have your wet hot alcohol/water soaked towel obvioiusly ready, and after pulling that needle apply straight down pressure, and only.... straight down pressure, push down lightly and hold it there for as long as you'd like. do not go in motions.... light pressure thats it. Just suggestions that need to be reminded... not suggesting you dont know how to pin. now, WHO ARE YOUR OILS FROM?

This worked a treat. Yesterday's shot was miles better then previous.
 
All these answers are good, but if a lab uses EO and you are allergic, no matter what PIP. Also too much alcohol content = PIP. Take it from me I have been crippled, been in the game over 15yrs. I haved used some combination EX: test p,trena mast all in 1ml left a permanent ball in my ass. I spent $ and had to throw shit away.
 
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