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need some help brothers the primo ace I made over a week ago half
of it crystalized some through out it in small pieces some night crystal at bottom,I keep them in basement test never crashes down there masteron 300 did once but I got one I'n oven with needle to relieve pressure the primo is coming back but will it stay and. should I keep upstairs where heat is. anythoughts why and how to prevent please

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caveman72 said:
need some help brothers the primo ace I made over a week ago half
of it crystalized some through out it in small pieces some night crystal at bottom,I keep them in basement test never crashes down there masteron 300 did once but I got one I'n oven with needle to relieve pressure the primo is coming back but will it stay and. should I keep upstairs where heat is. anythoughts why and how to prevent please

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Draw it out into new vials. Add 1ml bb to each one and then it should be fine
 
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No more pumping or cracking filters, flip the switch and walk away. Can adjust right down to 1inhg and hold it without dropping or increasing.
I'm well aware of the PES filter I'm using I have 4 left till I switch


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was going to say nice used the A/C pump method huh... not bad, thats what a lot of the chemistry guys I speak with obviously do... and fridge pumps... looks ghetto as fuck but hey it works! lol.
Caveman- Just add bit by bit, dont need to jump straight to 1ml for each vial, could be 1/3 mL thats needed to do the job, you really wont know... and yea once it crashes it will continue to foe its unstable... unless you adjust.
 
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was going to say nice used the A/C pump method huh... not bad, thats what a lot of the chemistry guys I speak with obviously do... and fridge pumps... looks ghetto as fuck but hey it works!
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Definitely looks ghetto I was hesitate to post cause of how homely that shit looks. I'm going to buy more hose today so the pump can go one the floor or at least farther away from my filter. Also going to put a timer switch on it so If I forget for a little bit it'll just shut off by itself


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hello all homebrewers. Rookie checking in, with questions. First question, vegetable oils viscosities. I understand that lower visc is better, easier to draw and inject, right? Is there a chart for vegetable oil viscosity? And generally , is there difference in how oils behave? I have methenolone enanthate powder to play with. I heard it is better not to go over 100mg/ml. But then, it will be a lot of volume to inject at such low concentration. Can I go a little higher? And again, which oil will tolerate higher concentrations better, if there is any difference at all.

maybe it was already discussed, but it is almost 400 pages! I think I've read 40 pages or so LoL
 
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hello all homebrewers. Rookie checking in, with questions. First question, vegetable oils viscosities. I understand that lower visc is better, easier to draw and inject, right? Is there a chart for vegetable oil viscosity? And generally , is there difference in how oils behave? I have methenolone enanthate powder to play with. I heard it is better not to go over 100mg/ml. But then, it will be a lot of volume to inject at such low concentration. Can I go a little higher? And again, which oil will tolerate higher concentrations better, if there is any difference at all.

maybe it was already discussed, but it is almost 400 pages! I think I've read 40 pages or so LoL
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Read the whole thread man... Took me 3 nights staying up until 3-4am LOL.. You'll learn sooo much. Also.. look into EO for higher concentrations. Krazie and BWL talk about it in this thread. Enjoy!!! Take your time.. and happy brewing!
 
Does anyone have a good suggestion for a legit and confidential label maker company? I know china has a few sources... but does anyone on here have experience with a good one?
 
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Draw it out into new vials. Add 1ml bb to each one and then it should be fine
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hey krazy or brothers my primo that crashed well some of it I had in basement and well the ones that didn't crashed I keep upstairs in 70 degrees and above I am gonna heat up again and add bb.to it I did heat one Up looked good put back in basement crashed again either this is potent shit. or just likes 70 degrees

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hey krazy or brothers my primo that crashed well some of it I had in basement and well the ones that didn't crashed I keep upstairs in 70 degrees and above I am gonna heat up again and add bb.to it I did heat one Up looked good put back in basement crashed again either this is potent shit. or just likes 70 degrees

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Caveman- Yea unless you add a little more BB, it will continue to crash for it is unstable. Add little by little to one vial, and see what gets it to hold, Then do the rest of them. Start at 1/4cc bro, work your way up. Until it no longer crashes. What amount did you use originally?
 
Unless you Dont care to dilute it down, BB ain't going to hurt you. I just got finished reading a pharmacobia report where they used fucking 100%BB as solvent and carrier.... As well as 50/50. I've done 40% with no issue at all.... Never heard someone use 100% but fuck im tripping that they did....
 
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Unless you Dont care to dilute it down, BB ain't going to hurt you. I just got finished reading a pharmacobia report where they used fucking 100%BB as solvent and carrier.... As well as 50/50. I've done 40% with no issue at all.... Never heard someone use 100% but fuck im tripping that they did....
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I just tried 40% on 100mg tne...shit still crashed.


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Everyone talks about EO bud.... Lol..... Many like it, many like myself love it, and many cant handle it.

@Weiss- when you have questions like that, many times googling things simple as "Carrier oil Viscosity chart" or "carrier oils compared" will bring up your exact info your lookin for, just a tip....

@manzach-No.
 
Unless you want to test out even higher, at your own discretion lol, but I'm not making that up about the Laboratory report, if your willing on pinning it first, lol give it a go.. Otherwise you won't get it to hold with out Guaic BG sorry bud it's not goin to happen bro. I'm waiting on something that may be able to I really don't know yet, when I do I'll let you know though.
 
Yea I know what he's going to suggest, I've done that with my hormones before too, and im just not sure what type of effect it has on the hormone so I haven't done that anymore... I can't imagine the hormone being able to maintain full potency, the line between degration is far to fucking thin.... Let me check if there's anything in the Merck In. About it.
 
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Caveman- Yea unless you add a little more BB, it will continue to crash for it is unstable. Add little by little to one vial, and see what gets it to hold, Then do the rest of them. Start at 1/4cc bro, work your way up. Until it no longer crashes. What amount did you use originally?
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same as prop recipe test 2 BA 15 bb but went to 20 bb and added 1 mill of bb to each crashed its still in oven taking forever do melt big crystals back in with mix at 200 degree

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Btw that's taking the hormone solemnly and heating it until it's liquid... Kind of like taking a melting point test, hormone liquifies.... Well same concept.
 
Yea see you don't want to see your hormone smoke dude lol...... If it's only hormone powder your heating and it's smoking.... Lol......... Nothing more to say...
 
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Btw that's taking the hormone solemnly and heating it until it's liquid... Kind of like taking a melting point test, hormone liquifies.... Well same concept.
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Haha try that with tne and see what happens. Melting point is over 300 degree. It starts smoking even with solvents.


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Hang no cave, what Mg are you at? And 2/20 didnt hold your prop? And you've added another mL per vial ontop of 2/20 still not holding? What Mg bother
 
Yea if it's smoking that much thats def. No bueno... Regardless of what anyone may tell you if that's what it takes to get 100mg to hold, well that's why.... Cuzz it's Prob more close to 10mg.... Toasted AAS's.... Don't do that....
 
Newbie here, and I am currenlty on page 58 of this thread. I'm not going to ask any stupid questions until I finish with all the pages lol. Just wanted to start on my pc. Seriously I was worried getting started with hb but from what I've read so far have eased that feeling. I am currently on trt and just refilled so I have some time to learn before the next. Great information and alot of my questions have already been answered just in the first 58, this is amazing. Gonna start getting everything ready a little at a time, looking forward to becoming part of the group!
 
glad to see you are brotha! Hopefully you find a solution and will share! Would love for kaiser to chime in if he's told you hes gotten it to hold without any guiacaol or EO in a solution.. Because if so then guess what, he holds the answer to the golden question that many have not been able to answer! Including Pharmacobia! Lewis where you at
 
Ok ok. I only suggested heating them with a little direct heat for a min or two. It helps them dissolve. I did not suggest sending smoke signals lol. What I do is a little direct heat in the beaker. Till it starts to look a little sticky. Then it goes to boiling water heat. Add ba. Stir. Then add bb. Stir and heat. Should be well heated not burning then I let cool. If it stays soluable ur good. If not I reheat add 5% bb and the carrier. Then let cool. Its usually good to go by then.
 
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glad to see you are brotha! Hopefully you find a solution and will share! Would love for kaiser to chime in if he's told you hes gotten it to hold without any guiacaol or EO in a solution.. Because if so then guess what, he holds the answer to the golden question that many have not been able to answer! Including Pharmacobia! Lewis where you at
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I don't use anything but ba bb and gso in my tne. And in my trne tne. Holds fine at 75-75 mg
 
I tried 150mg no guaiacol.... Crashed bad then adjusted to 100mg still crashed... Gave up throw some guaiacol in @5% and held real nice. I give up on the no guaiacol thing just expect it as my new cologne


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Filtering with GSO has been pretty slow. Safflower oil is thinner....anyone know if there is a noticeable difference in how it filters? How is safflower as a carrier?
 
I haven't had any noticeable differences in filter rate between different carriers it's slow no matter what


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Okay for a side note(tne) should be cooked 20ml at a time for best results it's a fucking pain and at higher mL it will crash almost every time also needs to be filtered hot unlike other products


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OK. So have been away for a month and now back to find all my goodies for a first brew. I have everything I need. Beaker, thermometer/stirrer, syringes, needles, filters, 10ml vials, 100ml vials, scales, BA, BB, EO, test prop powder, iTunes. I just need my oil so going out now to pick up some grapeseed oil or sesame seed oil. Or both.

Question #1. When filling a syringe, the plunger tip has a blunt conical shape. When you need exactly, say, 2ml, is it the tip or is it the base of the cone that should be lined up with the 2ml line?
 
Base it is, not tip. Will do.

I am making test prop @ 100mg/ml. I have both sesame and grapeseed oil. Any preference? Longevity? Thinness?

Also, I was going to use 50/50 Ethyl Oleate/oil just to see how I react to the EO. I heard that some people are allergic to EO so did not want a batch of 100% EO. Any reason not to go down that path?
 
My intended recipe:

Testosterone Propionate
100mg/ml - 100ml
10 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (7.5ml)
2ml BA (2%)
20ml BB (20%)
70.5ml Oil/EO @ 50/50
 
…except I will be using half that to make just 50ml, so:

Testosterone Propionate
100mg/ml - 50ml
5 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (3.75 ml 7.5ml)
1ml BA (2%)
10ml BB (20%)
35.25ml Oil/EO
 
All done. I have passed the brewers initiation and filtered my first batch by hand. Ferk. Just drawing up the raw oil was bad enough. Filtering was not bad to start with using a 100ml barrel but that last 10ml took forever.

I put 5g of powder in a flask, added 1ml of BA, 10ml of BB and added 30ml of oil. Placed it in a shallow pan with water level about the same height as the "goods" and stirred until all absorbed and combined at around the 65C mark. Let it sit for a bit then drew it all up into a 100ml barrel and started filtering. Once I was all done (took around 20min or so) I added another 2ml of EO to clear the filter and bring the volume up. That was the only EO I added. I will do a full EO mix next batch. Probably do that tomorrow.

Admired my masterpiece then started filling the 10ml fliptops. About half way through I realised that my volume was down. Filled 4 1/2 vials. So, where did the 5ml go? Then I realised that I was supposed to add 35.25 mil of oil, not 32 ml. So there is 3 of the missng mls. I guess I lost another 2ml with stuff sticking to the beaker and filtering vial, filter system and general messy burping when I was filling the 10ml vials. Maybe also I need to be more pedantic with checking volume levels.

Interested to know if it's normal to lose a ml or 2 in a small batch.

What did I learn? Making basic test is easy and fun. I need to watch my fluid levels and take a bit more time over it, double checking everything. I need some 20ml barrels. I need a caulking gun for filtering.

Now the fun part of putting on labels. Yep. I want to know what's what as I will be making some other concentrations and types of test and some Tren as well. Oh boy. What have I started.

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My stuff. Grapeseed and sesame oil, ethyl alcohol for cleaning, holding vial, beaker, 10ml vials, scales, powder, thermometer gun, BA, BB, EO, 18g & 21g needles, 100ml & 3ml barrels, filter and glass thermo.

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5g of powder.

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Filter setup. 18g filler and 21g air vent in sterile holding vial.

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My precious!!!!

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My "boys". I'm a proud father, except for the 5th one who is a bit retarded. Not the full 10ml, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for your help and advice guys.
 
Looks good to me, smart on cutting that in half, you do something way wrong, there goes your dreams lol. Hope the EO works out for you, kinda odd it seems like I've been seeing more and more cases of people getting fucked up from that shit. Either it's that, or everyone is buying the same EO which the cases I've seen have been using Med-Lab Shit house Supply..... I made this a big deal before and it's now time to again.

Listen, I want everyone to take what I say into consideration because it's only in consideration for you. I have been dealing with that fucking shit house of a Laboratory "supply" company for a very long time alright, so I have all the fucking merit in the world to leave the reviews I have, actually we all do even if it's been one, or 100, if they don't fuck you the first time they will another... I just ordered my last order I will ever place with that fucking mikey mouse ass place and that full of shit bitch Evet that's nothing but a god dam lier. I needed to BB and some guiac., some poly 80, and I said fuck it I'll go ahead and place my oil order in with them. I also needed some syringe filters for I've got some shit I've been wanting to play with, said fuck it it's smarter if I waste those.... Here's what I got.
One of my oils expiring in one month, the other was good, expiring in a year and a half from now... That's cool only because it'll get used by then.... But the other..... They send out oil that I paid $135 for, so I've got 4 fucking weeks to use? Bahaha! Haha.... C'mon now, I'm supposed to be laboratory here don't forget, would a laboratory use this shit? If I wanted to, I couldn't hit 1/8 of that oil in a month, anyhow, wait... The poly 80 was cool, the fuckin guiacaol I could smell from the outside of the box of course lol and I say that because the bottle was leaking and was all over the rest if the bubble wrap... Fucking joke... The BB I got to say was cool, vaccumed all the air out of its container, well kick that one under the rug for Evet being a whore, so all that, Now for the measly fucking 7 god dam filters, syringe filters I ordered.... Hahaha what could go wrong right? All of em fuckin expired. Last year. on top of all this shit, it took what 8 or 9 days to ship?
That place is a joke.... What they call filtered most likely isn't SHIT worth filtered, USP my ASS... Fuck that corner cutting joke of whatever you'd like to call it. They are there strickly to cater to us, and if you think it's made to supply much more, well lol soap makers and massage therapists at the most. Won't give that place another penny. I'd love to take a stroll through that place see what the fuck really goes on there. And to tornado the fuck out of it as I'm leaving, and smash Events fucking desk through the closest window, with her following right behind it.
 
Yeah, I don't mind if the mix is a touch more potent. Better than underdosed. Will take a hit tomorrow and see what the pip is like.

On another topic, what's the maximum concentration for a useable test prop? I have seen recipes for 150mg/ml. Anyone done one at 200mg/ml? Or higher? Just that when running 1g per week its a lot of oil to absorb. Would be nice to have a useable 200+. Or even 150 is better than nothing, as long as the pip was not crippling.
 
Printed out some labels for my bad boys today. Feeling very sexy. On a practical side, labels will help me keep vials separated as all my sterile vials are identical, so different batches, and later products, won't get mixed up.

Tomorrow I am going to try a batch of Test Prop 150mg per ml. This is my intended recipe:

150mg/ml for 50ml
7.5g Testosterone Prop powder (5.6ml)
1ml BA (2%)
15ml BB (30%)
28.4ml EO

If that works OK I will do a second batch to have enough for a full cycle.

Does that look all OK? Any suggestions?

My next cycle will be 1g per week of Test Prop and the higher concentration will mean less injection volume to help with injection site recovery.

12 weeks @ 1000mg/week with shots every other day = 42 shots. 12g (12,000mg) / 42 = 285.7mg per shot. With 100mg/ml gear that's obviously 2.857ml per shot. With 150mg/ml gear it's only 1.9ml so much less volume to deal with for the same dose. If I want to run tren I can also add it to the barrel and have 100mg of tren all in one shot. I have a self imposed limit of 3ml per shot to avoid scar tissue build up.

Is all the math above OK?
 
question about anavar powder. What size of caps do I need? Is it worth getting tray and filling rigs, if I only want to do it for myself? Or shoulda just salt my food with it or eat it with the spoon... kind of open for ideas. Suppositories maybe? I made a few of those in the past
 
Second effort.

Test Prop 50ml @ 200mg/ml
10 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (8.5ml)
1mL BA (2%)
10mL BB (20%)
30.5mL EO/oil
(10ml EO, 18ml GSO. Then 2.5ml EO at the end to clear the last drops from the filter.)

Washed the beaker with soapy water to get rid of the oil from last batch. Rinsed it out well and dried it with a clean paper towel. Cooked the beaker in my oven set to 220C for 30 min. Let it cool down while I measured out my 10g of powder and got my shit all set up. Washed the table down then over again with ethyl alcohol. Same with hands, thermo and stirrer. Put the powder in the beaker, added the BA & BB then 10ml of EO plus 18ml of GSO, keeping the last 2.5ml to push through the filter at the last step.

Took the temperature up to around 65C, stirring constantly. It all dissolved fairly quickly with just a few white specks left. Kept slowly stirring until all the specks dissolved then stirred for 5 more minutes. Took off the heat and let it cool down to 50C while stirring. All good. A light honey colour.

Set up my holding vial with vent pin and 18g pin with .22 micron inline filter. Sucked up the cooling liquid into a 60ml syringe barrel. Ready to make my nails bleed.

Noticed that the volume in the barrel was about 0.5ml short of the full 50ml. So, I either drew too much BA, BB, EO and/or GSO or the .85 conversion factor for my powder is out, or a combination of them all.

I have ordered 20ml barrels to make measuring for 50ml batches a little more accurate. Better than sucking up multiple barrels with a 3ml.

With EO in the mix it filtered a lot faster and easier than straight GSO. Sucked in a ml of EO and pushed half of that through the filter. All done. Should be spot on, or close to, 50ml. Will see when i decant into 10ml vials.

I am letting it cool and settle today. Will decant tomorrow. It's a nice light honey colour. When I hold it up to the light I can see an oily pattern, as if you were mixing GSO with water. It seems to have a very faint cloudy layer from the top to about 1/3 down the bottom. But that is being pedantic. I guess the proof will be in the PIP when I shoot it, if it stays in solution overnight. It's about 17C outside so not a hot day.

If it crashes, I will just add 25ml of EO and Oil and see if that fixes it. That will take it to 150mg/ml. If that crashes, which I doubt, then I can just dilute it again back down to 100mg/ml. No penalty, no foul.

This is fun. Now to make my labels for the new batch.


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Hoooooly crap. I have just finished reading all 378 pages of this thread. Using the Pareto principle, 80% is useless crap, 20% is pure gold. A great thread. Someone should write a book.

So I have hand filtered 2 batches and read the entire thread. I have popped my juice cherry. Had great fun and learnt a lot. A long journey ahead of me. I think I need an award for all that. Or a beer and a bj.

Just checked my 200mg/ml test prop and it has not crashed. It's still around 17C outside so probably 20-23C inside. I will check tomorrow in sunlight and see if it still has that cloudy oily thing happening.

Also shot 3ml of my 100mg/ml test prop from my first batch. Injected nice and smooth, no pip (so far) so looking forward to a bit of a kick in my workouts next week. Will hit it again every 2nd day over the next 10 days and see how I shape up.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. And especially BuryMeBig for the muscle-depot source. They came through alright for me.
 
the knot will happen a day or two. and it may not two ugl s medtech and thunder were ok but prop pip. my brew was lucky no pip. or my glutes.are like wolverine and heal fast

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Say you have a bottle of juice and a autoclave could you autoclave it again or would it damage it....just a random question


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Well, I pinned my first batch on Friday. No pip.

Got up on Sunday and my 200mg/ml second batch had crashed. Not surprised. It was cold overnight. White crystals at the bottom of the vial. So put it in my pocket for about an hour and it went back to liquid. Loaded a syringe and noticed some fine narrow crystals so put it in blood tem water for about 4 min. Put on a 21g needle and shot 1.4ml. Zero pip. That's with about 30% of the carrier as Ethyl Oleate. No adverse reactions to the EO. Seem to be a bit of a struggle to pin it but that may just have been me. So, unless my powder was pure glutamine, it's all good to go.
 
Test e 500 anyone? No I don't want it but for personal reasons I need 1 vial to last me a long time. I've made t400 with 200 e and 200 c before. Standard 2/20 worked fine and it was relatively painless.

I'm thinking maybe 50/50 eo/mct oil for 500 though. 50 eo because it is also important that it fits through a slin pin.
 
When using the bottle top filter do you change it for every batch you make. Say one batch is test e and the next is tren ace do you change filters or use it til it's done
 
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To accomplish what exactly? What are you wanting to do? I've put gear in a clave before, ran it on "Liquids" cycle which is meant for obviously sterilizing liquids, and surprisingly the vials didn't burst, nor did I vent them, but the cycle is not in regards to A) a closed vial, and B) a non aqueous solution, if im explaining that correctly, because the time it will take for the steam to penetrate through oil, is much greater then non lipid containing liquids... Obviously the pressure inside the vial would have to be the same as outside of the vial, and the same as inside the clave of course... And technically needs to come into contact with the stream..... Which is no bueno.... I did autoclave a media bottle half full of olive oil once with top loose, just to see what it would do, was interesting, when I pulled it out it was amazingly clear olive oil, a few hours later I came to find it had become turbid, then again by the next day.... Perfectly clear once again..... Was a trip.... Don't know what went on there to be honest...
 
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To accomplish what exactly? What are you wanting to do? I've put gear in a clave before, ran it on "Liquids" cycle which is meant for obviously sterilizing liquids, and surprisingly the vials didn't burst, nor did I vent them, but the cycle is not in regards to A) a closed vial, and B) a non aqueous solution, if im explaining that correctly, because the time it will take for the steam to penetrate through oil, is much greater then non lipid containing liquids... Obviously the pressure inside the vial would have to be the same as outside of the vial, and the same as inside the clave of course... And technically needs to come into contact with the stream..... Which is no bueno.... I did autoclave a media bottle half full of olive oil once with top loose, just to see what it would do, was interesting, when I pulled it out it was amazingly clear olive oil, a few hours later I came to find it had become turbid, then again by the next day.... Perfectly clear once again..... Was a trip.... Don't know what went on there to be honest...
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it'll get your gear to fall back into suspension yea, but it wont do much of anything to sterilize the gear.... but if you feel you'd need to, I'd prob not be hittin that shit anyhow right..... Autoclaves serve one purpose, they sterilize the glassware and utensil's, filters, etc. used which aid in our quest to being as sterile as we can be...... they are not used to sterilize the end product but used rather to keep us from "polluting" or contaminating our unsterile gear any further until filtration, then into a sterile media.... after that its all on you brother.. for those who would feel more comfortable sterilizing the gear themselves, simply buy a few sterile vials, and some .22um syringe filters, and refilter.... all you can do really.... autoclave doesnt penetrate unless we allow the steam access to contact with the gear, which even then is complicated because of the variables added in from the lipids which require more time plus higher temp to penetrate, but regardless, steam+our oils = no go... if i heard someone was refiltering my gear.... yea.... that'd be like someone coming to you to get there tattoo's done, then hearing they went home and went back over your shit with there own gun just to make sure shit looked clean..lines were straight...
 
hey bro. I know next time I make primo A. its gonna be 50 mg. mine is about 80 and it crashed but I revived some and revive anavar I need it. it turned out good. I used landmarkchem. Rachel is a good person to work with. I am sharing my mistake and sharing my raw company I told her I would. hope I'm not doing wrong. I noticed nobody's talking like they use to.
I'll start sharing more I'm still a new Brewer I use syringe filters but I'm quick can do ten in a hour but I do make a mess

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caveman72 said:
hey bro. I know next time I make primo A. its gonna be 50 mg. mine is about 80 and it crashed but I revived some and revive anavar I need it. it turned out good. I used landmarkchem. Rachel is a good person to work with. I am sharing my mistake and sharing my raw company I told her I would. hope I'm not doing wrong. I noticed nobody's talking like they use to.
I'll start sharing more I'm still a new Brewer I use syringe filters but I'm quick can do ten in a hour but I do make a mess

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Have you used them before. I just used another source butnita always nice to have more
 
Hey there. Been quite a few months since I posted here, work has come to a hault so I got lots of time now haha. Wanted to share something with anyone trying to brew some Tren up.

Been doing research and stumbled on some pretty cool info and decided to test it out. Tren should Idealy been a light golden colour, obviously your carrier oil and other factors will have effect on this, but its the general conciousness. I have made different batches of Tren with the same powder and this last one has been a great success. I monitered the heat temperature and never let it get passed 50 C (~122 F). Usually kept it at about 35 C. It took a little longer to brew, but the outcome was great. I also only added the BA/BB to the powder and diluted it in that first, then slowly added my EO over time, all while keeping it under 50 C. Nice light golden colour, and unlike my previous batches, this one didn't cloud after 1 week. But the biggest change so far, shitty but good, is the sides are much more pronounced then before, I mean, very noticeable. Cardio is also to shit, whereas I was still able to put out on the other batches. Again, this is all from the same powder. So I am not trying to say this IS THE WAY to do things, just trying to share my experience doing this way.

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Krazieone
You ever do samples or even not samples?
I have read through the nearly 400 pgs and you seem to be the most experienced.
Keep the posts coming. Great info!
AC
 
hey brother brewers I need a second. my recipe for deca is 5% on both BA and bb. is this seem normal I heard its easy I've only did prop and primo A. this should be the easy at 200mg.

caveman72 using not abusing
 
Basskiller is a good starting place,allows you a place to start your own formulations, small changes yield great results. Small batches, accurate records, accurate measurements, and consistency, will give you a great foundation.....j
 
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