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Anavar (Oxandrolone) and Winstrol (Stanozolol) only cycle

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Hey, there. I'm new to this forum and, since I'll be doing a cycle in the next 40 days, I thought I might as well report it in some forum.

I'm 26, 1,80 cm (5'10" I believe) and currently 86kgs (190lbs), with 20% body fat.

I have been lifting for the last 10 years and have achieved stuff like 82kgs with 8%bf, but I couldn't work out in the last year due to 2 surgeries and work/stress. I have returned in the last couple of months and, eager to see some more imediate results, decided to visit an endocrinologist doctor. He prescribed me a 20mg Anavar (oxandrolone) and 20mg Winstrol (Stanozolol) to be taken for the next 40 days (constantly), after I did some extensive blood work.

I'll be also taking some other medication and I have a diet/workout plan figured out already. What I wanted to know is: is there any interest of anyone here on the full report (with pictures, diet, workout plan and test results) or shouldn't I bother sharing? Of course, I'd be also posting to get positive/negative feedback

Thank you
 
Welcome bro....Seems to be better and safer ways to go about weight loss but that is up to you brother.....You might have just met the worlds nicest endocrinologist....I go to one and had to twist his arm for 100 mg cyp instead of 75mg.....I would look up Sarm 1 protocol with search button.....Dylan can set you up with a better plan then you got going here.....If you go with your plan do a full liver panel before you start.

www.evolutionary.org/sarms... here is a stack with links on where to buy everything...
 
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Thank you. I did a lot of reading and researching, and there seems to be a million other possibilities of cycles and drugs to take... But the doctor insisted on this one. It wasn't luck I found him. A couple of friends of mine did a cycle and went to this particular endocrinologist for the prescription. I already bought the drugs and I'm only waiting for one more test result to come. I'll be posting them here.

What could I expect, in terms of losing fat and muscle gain, if I did a hipocaloric or hypercaloric diet? Do you have any clue?
 
Fortitude18:

To this very minute, I had absolutely no clue about SARMS, their existence. I'll be reading about it. And I just messaged my doctor about it asking. I can't buy anything online here.. I'm Brazilian and I live in Brazil. The sellers would never ship it, and, even if they did, it would never make it through the customs.

Gymrat827:

To be honest, I don't know... What would be the benefits, If I may ask?
 
If guys used the forum search function, they'd find that we had two anavar/Winstrol cycle posts the last two days alone that may answer some of their questions :)

I'll just copy/paste what I wrote in one of those threads:

Multiple orals can be taken at a time, but there's a few factors that should contribute to your decision:

1) how toxic is each oral per 10mg

2) the total mg used

A good dosage for winny is 50mg, and 60mg for var, but running them both at that dosage is asking for jaundice. So, we split the dosages and what happens is the toxicity stays around the same and you can reap benefits from two amazing orals. I would do a 30/30 split for a total of 60mg ED.

Keep aromasin on hand because although these orals do not aromatize, you can still get gyno through other pathways from these steroids (more so anavar). You can stack sarms like s4 and GW on top of these two orals for incredible results and shredding. Use ostarine in pct to help retain and nurture the gains you made on cycle.

1-6 anavar 30mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 30mg ED
1-6 s4 50mg ED
1-6 Cardarine (GW) 20mg ED
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
(Aromasin on hand)

Pct
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Hcgenerate
Ostarine 25mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
 
Hey JB, you actually put this in my thread about these 2, and I just thought of what I hope is a good question. What exactly do you mean when you say we need to know how toxic per 10mg the orals are? I know that nearly every if not all the orals have hepatoxicity issues because they go through the liver to be processed.

Also for the OP this is the thread I got the idea for Anavar and Winstrol together w/o anything else... http://www.evolutionary.org/anavar-oxandrolone
 
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jbraken, thank you for your advice. I didn't know there were a lot of topics like this in the forum, I just chose this one to post because people here seem to be the friendlier. No one started throwing rocks at me so far.

And I also thought a log would be very helpful for other members too, no matter how many of them there already are.
 
Daimaoh said:
jbraken, thank you for your advice. I didn't know there were a lot of topics like this in the forum, I just chose this one to post because people here seem to be the friendlier. No one started throwing rocks at me so far.

And I also thought a log would be very helpful for other members too, no matter how many of them there already are.
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I'm sure a log would benefit several members. Go for it!
 
Atrox said:
Hey JB, you actually put this in my thread about these 2, and I just thought of what I hope is a good question. What exactly do you mean when you say we need to know how toxic per 10mg the orals are? I know that nearly every if not all the orals have hepatoxicity issues because they go through the liver to be processed.

Also for the OP this is the thread I got the idea for Anavar and Winstrol together w/o anything else... http://www.evolutionary.org/anavar-oxandrolone
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You're half right. You see, you couldn't get away with doing this with an oral like halotestin where the recommended dosage is normally 20mg ed, with 30mg being the high end because of the extreme toxicity. You also couldn't do this with oral tren because of the ridiculous toxicity.

Winstrol and var are both toxic and I'm not down playing their effects on the liver, but they're not far off from each other in terms of toxicity. So, 30mg of each would nearly be the same as 60mg of one or the other.
 
I don't understand why your doctor would give you Anavar and winstrol ???? I didn't think doctors prescribed Anavar anymore and winstrol also ...
 
Went down the toxic route of orals unknowingly when I was 18......you don't want to go down that route dude. Trust me......research and get yourself something better. It took me 3 months to recover. And I'm not talking about my nuts.....I'm talking it took me 3 months to be able to not pass out, 3 months to shit normally again, 3 months to be able to eat a full meal without getting sick, 3 months to not wake up and be wore out a few hours later.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Be smart and be careful with those suckers.
 
jbranken said:
I'm sure a log would benefit several members. Go for it!
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Just 'cause you said so, I'll go through with it, maybe some members would benefit from it.

Anyway, also with the Anavar and Winstrol I will be taking:

Vitamin A: 500ui
Vitamin D3: 5000ui
Vitamin E: 500ui

1 capsule with these after breakfast

Zinco Chelate 30mg
Quercetin 300mg
Vitamin B6 100mg
Chrysin 100mg

1 capsule with these as I lay to sleep

5-alfa inhibitors

Serenoa Repens (Saw Palmeto) 360mg
Urtica Dioica 350mg

1 capsule as I lay to bed

Methionine 200mg
Silybum Marianum 300mg

1 capsule after breakfast

And

Pygeum Africano 50mg
Tribulus Terrestris 500mg

1 capsule as I lay to sleep

The blood work I'll post here as soon as I retrieve them from the doctor.

jbranken, would you recommend a hipercaloric ou hipocaloric diet? The distribution of macros, as the doctor suggested, would be 60% protein, 30% carbs and 10% fat.

On the SARMs, the Doctor is aware of their existence, but he told me today he isn't allowed to indicate them, since they're still on trial and aren't approved in Brazil
 
pipelinerK said:
Went down the toxic route of orals unknowingly when I was 18......you don't want to go down that route dude. Trust me......research and get yourself something better. It took me 3 months to recover. And I'm not talking about my nuts.....I'm talking it took me 3 months to be able to not pass out, 3 months to shit normally again, 3 months to be able to eat a full meal without getting sick, 3 months to not wake up and be wore out a few hours later.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Be smart and be careful with those suckers.
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I understand... Thank you for your post. Did you get the bloodwork done? Does that happen to everyone?
 
Daimaoh said:
I understand... Thank you for your post. Did you get the bloodwork done? Does that happen to everyone?
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It happens to people who abuse orals. They're hard on the liver as it is. Extensive runs at high doses will catch up to you. Always protect yourself on cycle and have plenty of time off between oral cycles. And of course, bloodwork
 
It's cool that your doc actually prescribed this to you haha but I'm not sure how much this is going to do for you man or what your expecting to get out of it. 20% bf is a lot specially for something like var. yea you might loose a few pounds and get some nice pumps/ strength but doing a testosterone anavar cycle would benefit you 100x better then a double oral. You'll lose much more body fat, gain a lot more strength and won't get a limp dingaling. But it's your life And body man I wish you the best just Make sure your getting your liver function tests done. Good luck


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EZ_E said:
I stand by my post
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Lol! That's great

I have to agree that it's a moronic move by a doctor because it does absolutely nothing to benefit you other than physical gains and appearance, but he didn't even have the decency to prescribe test with it. Holy limp dick batman.

Most crooked docs just prescribe test and put guys on trt. This is definitely an odd situation
 
Daimaoh said:
Hey, there. I'm new to this forum and, since I'll be doing a cycle in the next 40 days, I thought I might as well report it in some forum.

I'm 26, 1,80 cm (5'10" I believe) and currently 86kgs (190lbs), with 20% body fat.

I have been lifting for the last 10 years and have achieved stuff like 82kgs with 8%bf, but I couldn't work out in the last year due to 2 surgeries and work/stress. I have returned in the last couple of months and, eager to see some more imediate results, decided to visit an endocrinologist doctor. He prescribed me a 20mg Anavar (oxandrolone) and 20mg Winstrol (Stanozolol) to be taken for the next 40 days (constantly), after I did some extensive blood work.

I'll be also taking some other medication and I have a diet/workout plan figured out already. What I wanted to know is: is there any interest of anyone here on the full report (with pictures, diet, workout plan and test results) or shouldn't I bother sharing? Of course, I'd be also posting to get positive/negative feedback

Thank you
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yes please do share.. should be a very interesting view/read and thank you for the williness to share good friend.
 
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