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rebellifter said:
It's pretty fucked up how many people on here vouched for Basicstero and Pharmacom. Out $875 on this VAR, I mean VAR/dbol... if it even shows up. So many of these jerkoffs stop shipping once they are busted. Hope his Pharmacom Oils are worth a shit.
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I don't think anyone can vouch for any gear other than the vials they are physically using.
cujolaverga said:
Appreciated bro. I didn't mean to cause shit or stir up shit..but there is nothing on this planet that I love more than my kids and my wife and to have some invisible jerk off scam to make a few extra dollars at the expense of someone's health is sickening. Bros gotta know. The audacity of this dude was crazy. .he said "hi bro, out it on any forum you want. " So I did
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I would never let my girl take anything without lab maxing it first...you never know.
At Lee said:
Man can you write the batch number of this var
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That would be nice, but seems like there is Var from the test results. The tester vial says its Var from the pics I'm seeing. It's the stick that looks off.... We need more than one guy to lab max before jumping to conclusions. No offense intended to the OP, but it'd be good to have more than one person test this stuff. I have some I haven't taken yet. I'll be on it in 8 weeks or so. That's really shitty news if true. Seems like the most legit operation out there and they claim to test their raws...
 
cujolaverga said:
Is robo a bad choice for 1st time tren? Am I driving a Ferrari with a learners permit or somethin? Lol
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Just be easy on the dose.. Is killer
 
Just look at it as tren and it will do what tren should do. As long as you are aware of that your fine. Dose accordingly. There no difference in tren e from one guy or tren e from another. Well theoretically there should not be.

You don't buy weak test right? You buy test to do what test should do.

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I'm going to reserve judgement, something doesn't seem right about the labmax. Not saying one way or the other, but given your limited interaction on this forum and given the fact that my gf just ran anavar from basic and got lean as hell, not so sure what to think. Something ain't right one way or the other. I'm curious to see your results on the robo var though.
 
Some people say the tren sides are overrated, some say to keep 911 on speed dial. Honestly, I'm just not sure what to expect from it. I don't believe all the you can eat like shit and still get lean stuff..will be taking this cycle very seriously and do have caber on hand..just in case
 
NastyNate said:
I'm going to reserve judgement, something doesn't seem right about the labmax. Not saying one way or the other, but given your limited interaction on this forum and given the fact that my gf just ran anavar from basic and got lean as hell, not so sure what to think. Something ain't right one way or the other. I'm curious to see your results on the robo var though.
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Glad to hear one girl didn't grow a dick on their Var. I'm definitely skeptical too. I'd believe you over him for the reason mentioned too.
 
NastyNate said:
I'm going to reserve judgement, something doesn't seem right about the labmax. Not saying one way or the other, but given your limited interaction on this forum and given the fact that my gf just ran anavar from basic and got lean as hell, not so sure what to think. Something ain't right one way or the other. I'm curious to see your results on the robo var though.
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Quite interesting indeed...
 
I understand where you're coming from. I'm new here and you guys don't know me. If Frank posts in this thread, he will be the 1st to tell you that I haven't asked for a thing. I don't want anything and I'm certainly not promoting another source. I have limited knowledge on the subject of AAS.

The ONLY reason I got a labmax was because something wasn't right with the results and sides. I gained weight on a severe deficit. The sides my girl was getting I have already touched on. My limited interaction is because of the fact that you guys talk like every single one of you has a chemistry degree and are endocrinologists. Seriously, it's hard for an average Joe to keep up
 
Basicstero is probably a great source. .I have no doubt about it. But, you can't have 100% quality control over every dose of every product. If I were asking for free gear or to be reimbursed it would look really odd. Not the case here
 
cujolaverga said:
Basicstero is probably a great source. .I have no doubt about it. But, you can't have 100% quality control over every dose of every product. If I were asking for free gear or to be reimbursed it would look really odd. Not the case here
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The problem is that Pharmacom claims to have the best quality control so if you're right i would be very disappointed. I think Frank would be too.
 
cujolaverga said:
Basicstero is probably a great source. .I have no doubt about it. But, you can't have 100% quality control over every dose of every product. If I were asking for free gear or to be reimbursed it would look really odd. Not the case here
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What rep did you PM?
 
cujolaverga said:
Basicstero is probably a great source. .I have no doubt about it. But, you can't have 100% quality control over every dose of every product. If I were asking for free gear or to be reimbursed it would look really odd. Not the case here
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I understand where you're coming from, and to be honest, it's kind of disheartening that Frank wouldn't want to try and sort this out immediately versus fanning the flames so to speak. I wish he'd say something in here. Like I said, reserving judgement all the way around, I hope you find a solution to your current conundrum as it's a pricy endeavor.

And for the record, I'm dumb as hell. I simply get my post count up by making lewd and lascivious comments to NY Rebel since that fruit cake was (also) in the Navy.
 
Being upset isn't gonna change a thing. The reason I even put it out was because I wouldn't want someone else to go through it. Frank said what he wanted to in his email. I'm moving on from it and am gonna try something else. ..this time I'll be armed with a labmax BEFORE.
 
NastyNate said:
I understand where you're coming from, and to be honest, it's kind of disheartening that Frank wouldn't want to try and sort this out immediately versus fanning the flames so to speak. I wish he'd say something in here. Like I said, reserving judgement all the way around, I hope you find a solution to your current conundrum as it's a pricy endeavor.

And for the record, I'm dumb as hell. I simply get my post count up by making lewd and lascivious comments to NY Rebel since that fruit cake was (also) in the Navy.
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I agree - there are lots of people potentially ordering var and Frank not jumping in here doesn't make him or Pharmacom seem like a reliable source.

Alphalife - if my order arrives I will labmax 3 times and post the results.

I got dbol/winny once before from Mike Stong and always said I would never try var again without labmax.
 
As a matter of fact, I'm not even saying I wouldn't use them again. I own a plumbing business and I have zero control over what my techs do on the job site. It's Frank's job to initially defend his product, but I would think he'd wanna get to the bottom of it instead of just big leaguing me
 
Yea, I hope he chimes in here. He's always given great customer service to me. Even sent a midget hooker to deliver my gear.
 
cujolaverga said:
I didn't PM anyone. Don't even know how to do it. .lol. I emailed frank at the basicstero website
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Your right to admit their can be certain batch issues and it happens. It's part if the game obviously.

The bigger deal in my eyes is you basically got told "oh well" nonsource I deal with would do that to me. It's just not good business. Actually any complaint I even hinted to regarding my sources was responded to with an offer of full replacment. I don't even have to ask or really push the issue. Like wtf is a cycle of anavar to a real supplier. It's fucking pocket change in the end if the day.

I just wish you got serviced a little better is all. It's not like you were dealing with a rep you straight emailed off the website.

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Man also from another standpoint it just reflects badly that they ain't in it for the Evo fam. Clearing this up or at least a dressing it. It's public knowledge now any fraudulent product from a source is adressed by an automatic ban.

Clearly he doesn't care. I mean this could lead to maybe 5 or 6 order getting tested now. Those pop up fake man they gonna send basic packing.

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I wish I had taken better pics. It was more olive green and yellow green and had red streaks in it. The residue on the stick turned that reddish color immediately. According the labmax videos, var either passes, or it doesnt if that makes any sense. Oh hell, you guys know this already
 
Jrbdallas said:
Your right to admit their can be certain batch issues and it happens. It's part if the game obviously.

The bigger deal in my eyes is you basically got told "oh well" nonsource I deal with would do that to me. It's just not good business. Actually any complaint I even hinted to regarding my sources was responded to with an offer of full replacment. I don't even have to ask or really push the issue. Like wtf is a cycle of anavar to a real supplier. It's fucking pocket change in the end if the day.

I just wish you got serviced a little better is all. It's not like you were dealing with a rep you straight emailed off the website.

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He said he did just email the site... Just assumed he was talking to Frank. I don't think Frank works weekends, but I hope he addresses it the way he usually does by Monday.
 
It's just such an easy fix for Frank. Your right though maybe Monday will be the day if resolution.

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Jrbdallas said:
It's just such an easy fix for Frank. Your right though maybe Monday will be the day if resolution.

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I'm with you in terms of rectifying the situation. Hope we get some more people testing the Var. So much fake shit out there.
 
alphalife said:
I'm with you in terms of rectifying the situation. Hope we get some more people testing the Var. So much fake shit out there.
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Are you gonna max yours?

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I've never used one personally. I only know of the one Canadian site that's sells them for like 24

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"The anavar/winstrol test is not good to test dBol (Methandrostenolone) but it does work when a small amount of powder is added to the test, initial red"

I pulled that straight from the labmax site.

Looks like exactly what this guy was saying but because it didnt turn brown after i would say he has Dbol/winny and maybe some var mixed in if hes lucky.

The Dbol/winny mix is popular as a fake for anavar by suppliers.

XENO
 
Xeno Pharmaceuticals said:
"The anavar/winstrol test is not good to test dBol (Methandrostenolone) but it does work when a small amount of powder is added to the test, initial red"

I pulled that straight from the labmax site.

Looks like exactly what this guy was saying but because it didnt turn brown after i would say he has Dbol/winny and maybe some var mixed in if hes lucky.

The Dbol/winny mix is popular as a fake for anavar by suppliers.

XENO
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I've heard that as well and that combo would sure as fuck make some hair fall out. And sure would lead to a swollen lady part. That is a nasty combo for anybody.

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rebellifter said:
I got 3 for $40 from the Canadian Website.
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Xeno Pharmaceuticals said:
You can buy a single var test for 20$ i believe im about to look right now.

XENO
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cujolaverga said:
Yeah I paid 16 per kit
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Jrbdallas said:
I've never used one personally. I only know of the one Canadian site that's sells them for like 24

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Would someone please point me to this site. PM or whatever. I've only seen Labmax sold in big $200 kits.
 
alphalife said:
Would someone please point me to this site. PM or whatever. I've only seen Labmax sold in big $200 kits.
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Google labmax real quick. Should be the first one. It's a chick sitting in a roller chair with a silver kit on the home page.

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Labmax . Ca

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Thats the labmax site. They sell a $200 kit. The $16 individual Var/Winny kit does not test for dbol. Its "yellow green" for Var, "olive green" for Winny. So the red means nothing at all....
 
alphalife said:
Thats the labmax site. They sell a $200 kit. The $16 individual Var/Winny kit does not test for dbol. Its "yellow green" for Var, "olive green" for Winny. So the red means nothing at all....
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I sent them an email. Lol gotta love their email received notification.
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It's gotta mean something.

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Not sure where you got that it didn't mean anything? On the labmax site it says that the anavar test is not good for testing dbol but will work when a small amount of powder is used. A dark red could indicate dbols presence. Anavar is a simple pass/fail. Anything other than a yellow/green is a fail. It almost doesn't even change colors at all
 
cujolaverga said:
Looks like dbol came to the party
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That test is positive for Oxandolone. You have Var in those tabs for sure. There is nothing olive green about those pictures, so no Winstrol. But that $16 test only tests for the presence of those two hormones. Without the whole kit, all that you know is there is definitely Var in the tab you tested. You would need to do separate tests for Dbol to determine in that is in there.

1. What else were you cycling other than the Var?
2. Has your girl ever taken any hormone before?
 
cujolaverga said:
Not sure where you got that it didn't mean anything? On the labmax site it says that the anavar test is not good for testing dbol but will work when a small amount of powder is used. A dark red could indicate dbols presence. Anavar is a simple pass/fail. Anything other than a yellow/green is a fail. It almost doesn't even change colors at all
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100% your test does not detect dbol. Its a yes/no test for 2 hormones only. Winny and Var.
http://www.**********/proddetail.php?prod=anavar_winstrol_test
 
Labmax should be able to clear it up. I gave them specific details to the situation. Let's see what they say. Till then jury seems to be out.

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I don't know how to blow that up so it's legible. We are just understanding it differently I guess. The way I understood it was that if it is indeed var, no other color will show up. There were red streaks in the vial and it was closer to the olive than the yellow. I'm not gonna argue cause you have way more credibility on this than me.
 
cujolaverga said:
Test P and no
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Test p in conjuction? Or alone? Cause test p will swell some clits and shed some hair in females.

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Also directly explains agression

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I still think it looked like tbol lol, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. On the real tho, iv never seen var have red in it... the picture looks yellow "and that's just the picture we don't know because we wasn't there" and tbol will give yellow with a little redish just like the pictures I posted. I have done a labmax on dbol and it's a solid red no question about it, that's just my experience with the kits.
 
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Too me it looks like the middle vial,

From left to right its Anavar Winstrol Dbol the site actually also mention dbol will show initial red like the op observed.

Im almost positive its Dbol/winny based off this picture.

XENO
 
Can't wait to hear what labmax says about this. I understand everyone reacts differently to compounds, but shit, I have never heard of someone gaining weight like I did. No significant increase in vascularity either, or pumps
 
Xeno Pharmaceuticals said:
"The anavar/winstrol test is not good to test dBol (Methandrostenolone) but it does work when a small amount of powder is added to the test, initial red"

I pulled that straight from the labmax site.

Looks like exactly what this guy was saying but because it didnt turn brown after i would say he has Dbol/winny and maybe some var mixed in if hes lucky.

The Dbol/winny mix is popular as a fake for anavar by suppliers.

XENO
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alphalife said:
That test is positive for Oxandolone. You have Var in those tabs for sure. There is nothing olive green about those pictures, so no Winstrol. But that $16 test only tests for the presence of those two hormones. Without the whole kit, all that you know is there is definitely Var in the tab you tested. You would need to do separate tests for Dbol to determine in that is in there.

1. What else were you cycling other than the Var?
2. Has your girl ever taken any hormone before?
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They actually have a video of them placing dbol in the var/winny test, they show that dbol will look like a darker winstrol and they also mention the initial red if dbol is present i quoted my post from a page back or two.

Var looks very distinctly yellow and id say his test looks almost darker than the winstrol but not quite as dark as the dbol making me think its both especially because of the initial red.

XENO
 
Xeno Pharmaceuticals said:
"The anavar/winstrol test is not good to test dBol (Methandrostenolone) but it does work when a small amount of powder is added to the test, initial red"

I pulled that straight from the labmax site.

Looks like exactly what this guy was saying but because it didnt turn brown after i would say he has Dbol/winny and maybe some var mixed in if hes lucky.

The Dbol/winny mix is popular as a fake for anavar by suppliers.

XENO
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cujolaverga said:
Can't wait to hear what labmax says about this. I understand everyone reacts differently to compounds, but shit, I have never heard of someone gaining weight like I did. No significant increase in vascularity either, or pumps
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No man you were right that test shows its definitely not var and most likely a winny/dbol mix. that combined with your experience, there's no question.
 
Something I will say..is that my strength is up Significantly. Joints, especially elbows are sore like I have injuries, which I dont. My girls strength is up majorly
 
When I talked to robo earlier, even he said that "my guys seem to like it" when I asked it was held to the same standard as his oils. Everyone is at the mercy of their supplier it seems. Real var seems to be a real bitch to find
 
cujolaverga said:
Being upset isn't gonna change a thing. The reason I even put it out was because I wouldn't want someone else to go through it. Frank said what he wanted to in his email. I'm moving on from it and am gonna try something else. ..this time I'll be armed with a labmax BEFORE.
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Well I'm glad I didn't order my var from basicstero... If it wasn't for you bro l would've been fucked!
 
cujolaverga said:
When I talked to robo earlier, even he said that "my guys seem to like it" when I asked it was held to the same standard as his oils. Everyone is at the mercy of their supplier it seems. Real var seems to be a real bitch to find
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Well hold out a sec bro. XENO is gonna labmax his and I plan to labmax it myself too. He is just about to get it in I think.

Your right everyone is at the mercy of their supplier. But there can be cautionary measures taken and acts to rectify the situation.

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cujolaverga said:
I'm ordering more var and I will be testing beforehand this time
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Be sure to follow the directions carefully and only add a small amount of Var like they suggest. Set a 15 minute timer and snap a photo at that mark. Just so the source can come back and say there a mistake on your end. If your comfortable with it, you could always videotape the process for solid proof. Obviously leaving your identity anonymous. Good lookin out bro, lots of dudes on the prowl for some real shit ya know. If ya find some, let us know.
 
Robierob77 said:
Be sure to follow the directions carefully and only add a small amount of Var like they suggest. Set a 15 minute timer and snap a photo at that mark. Just so the source can come back and say there a mistake on your end. If your comfortable with it, you could always videotape the process for solid proof. Obviously leaving your identity anonymous. Good lookin out bro, lots of dudes on the prowl for some real shit ya know. If ya find some, let us know.
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Damn it....so the source CANT come back and blame you. I vote for an edit button.
 
Robierob77 said:
Morning!! Bout to go hit up the ol cracker barrel and fill up my belly!
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That sounds killer.. I wanna hit up a really trashy waffle house.
 
Alright. I don't know, maybe I'm jaded but the concern for me now is, do the suppliers test only what they know is good? How can anyone be sure that their hard earned cash is getting top shelf gear?

Your right everyone is at the mercy of their supplier. But there can be cautionary measures taken and acts to rectify the situation.

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Robierob77 said:
Be sure to follow the directions carefully and only add a small amount of Var like they suggest. Set a 15 minute timer and snap a photo at that mark. Just so the source can come back and say there a mistake on your end. If your comfortable with it, you could always videotape the process for solid proof. Obviously leaving your identity anonymous. Good lookin out bro, lots of dudes on the prowl for some real shit ya know. If ya find some, let us know.
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Already planned on making a video of this test bro.
 
cujolaverga said:
Alright. I don't know, maybe I'm jaded but the concern for me now is, do the suppliers test only what they know is good? How can anyone be sure that their hard earned cash is getting top shelf gear?

Your right everyone is at the mercy of their supplier. But there can be cautionary measures taken and acts to rectify the situation.

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[/QUOTE]We can't know, unfortunately. It's the risk we have to take when ordering from ugl. Sucks, but it's the truth.
 
Anybody try emailing Frank or anyone else from Basicstero? Anyone try a labmax on Darius or DS's Pharmacom Var?

This is so fucked! $875 probably gone... because people are fucking greedy.
 
rebellifter said:
jp4355 - you got any thoughts here? You have backed up Basic's Pharmacom Var on a few occasions.
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Well let's be fair here, because someone banks them doesn't mean it's a guarantee. Batches vary. Things can go great for while, raws might Change, then things happen.
 
NY REBEL said:
Well let's be fair here, because someone banks them doesn't mean it's a guarantee. Batches vary. Things can go great for while, raws might Change, then things happen.
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Totally fair and I wasn't trying to call our jp- just curious if he had any thoughts. The most irritating piece of this is that no one around Pharmacom is jumping into this thread.
 
rebellifter said:
Totally fair and I wasn't trying to call our jp- just curious if he had any thoughts. The most irritating piece of this is that no one around Pharmacom is jumping into this thread.
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I agree. They need be here to figure this out.. So what's that say about them. There aware correct?
 
NY REBEL said:
I agree. They need be here to figure this out.. So what's that say about them. There aware correct?
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According to OP - he said he told the rep he was going to post on EVO. Someone else said Frank doesn't work weekends and we will see on Monday. It would be great if someone would PM Basicstero or someone else since I can't.
 
"Anavar was probably the most Labmaxed of our compounds on MESO.<br />
At least 8-9 public videos and pics, all positive, in the last 6 months.<br />
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Also, all the reviews and feedback were positive. I'm still waiting for a restock since my previous stock was immediately sold out. <br />
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I didn't read the whole thread with the Anavar issue, I'll do it today and will start to investigate this problem. I just wanted to give a brief answer regarding Pharmacom's var quality.<br />
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Regarding the shipping discussion, we have a shipping success rate to US of 100% since 2011. Using the same priority airmail from Europe, 6-7 days delivery in more than 95% of the cases.<br />
Thousands of reviews from several other boards can confirm my statements. <br />
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As the oldest Pharmacom resellers, since 2008, we also have the option of sending directly from our manufacturer, "Internationally", but shipping from Asia can have its disadvantages. We prefer to import and ship from countries with a safer environment, which are not considered suspicious by US borders." The story according to Darius
 
rebellifter said:
According to OP - he said he told the rep he was going to post on EVO. Someone else said Frank doesn't work weekends and we will see on Monday. It would be great if someone would PM Basicstero or someone else since I can't.
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I'll PM him. I doubt he gets on until tomorrow.
 
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