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bobsyouruncle
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Someone suggested we start up a thread for home brewers and people interested in homebrewing/recipes so here ya go
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krazieone56
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Subbed. This is gonna be good. Now let's talk more about my rocket fuel mix. Lol
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bobsyouruncle
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100mg sust 50mg tne 50mg tren no ester maybe toss in 50mg dbol?
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krazieone56
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I'm not a fan of dbol. But maybe mast prop or eq would be bad ass
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bobsyouruncle
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I'm sure it will be I think this should be heavy with pics as well
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Have you used the humoco suspending agent substitutes or the ora plus/ora sweet?
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devildog
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For injectibles, there's some debate over gso, cotton seed, sesame, etc., in terms of shelf life. i.e., not going rancid being stored for two years+
I'm leaning towards what my depo test (trt) has which is sesame, and I'm hearing it lasts the longest on the shelf. Interested to hear other opinions.
I'm leaning towards what my depo test (trt) has which is sesame, and I'm hearing it lasts the longest on the shelf. Interested to hear other opinions.
devildog
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Lol! No. That's over my head. Please elaborate.
krazieone56
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I like 60-40 approach. 60 % carrier oil 40% ethyl oleate. Lower viscosity. Stays pretty stable too because the eo acts as another co solvent
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I'll be experimenting with it soon. It's an alcohol/peg substitute designed to suspended powdered medication for oral administration.
A quick Google search will bring it up on several sites, not much actual info in our world though but I'm very curious.
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Finally a homebrewing section!!!!!
Are there enough users to have sections? Like formulas, carrier oils, a pic section, I dont know shit like that to keep it organized.
Either way lets get this going....
Matty any ideas on the special, you the man this go around!!!!
Are there enough users to have sections? Like formulas, carrier oils, a pic section, I dont know shit like that to keep it organized.
Either way lets get this going....
Matty any ideas on the special, you the man this go around!!!!
krazieone56
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This would be the spot baby lol
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devildog
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I'll have to do some reading. I'm pretty serious about the powders being a game changer these days, and like a typical iron head, am particular, wanting it right. Thanks for bringing this up. Elaborate all you want on the topic. I may know some stuff, but sure don't know it all.
devildog
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Like I said, home brews are moving up fast. I would love to see a section dedicated to it.
krazieone56
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OK let's get back to rocket fuel 1.0. OK 25% sust 25% mast prop 25% tne 25% tren no ester. That sounds epic.
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Well you are now Mr VIP!!! You can do it! I would love a section for this because these pages will get very scattered very fast.
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devildog
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Let me ask around tomorrow among mods/Admin here. I don't know what the protocol would be to add another section, but will at least ask. A guy on prom night doesn't do any good unless he tries... Lol
krazieone56
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Hey sometimes, when you hear no 3 times it actually means yes when you try the fourth time.
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devildog
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That's correct. If a guy only tried once, he'd go home to the jergens. Lol!! And no more taking about fresh pasta, meat sauce, and meatballs! Damn!!!! Lol
krazieone56
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Dude. It was sooooo good. I almost posted a pic of it but I was worried about death threats from fellow bros. Lol
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devildog
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lol
krazieone56
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Lol. Ugh I actually feel guilty because I'm in a total transformation contest. Not supposed to be eating that. Not that I'm not leaned out but I'm trying to get to 7% bf. Can't get there eating that shit. BTW did u sub to my contest log?
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devildog
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I've not seen the log. I'll look for it, and subscribe. And lucky you. I've gotta get down to 4% or less. Hopefully 3.5. We'll see. Speaking of body fat, I've gotta hot the rack so I can get up, and deal with an angry treadmill. Wait, maybe I'm the angry one at that evil hour in the morning. Lol
krazieone56
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Damn 3%. Thats like competition level that's impressive man. Just look for the title- my 2014 sarms1 contest log
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devildog
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Forgot to add this. It's a copy and paste, but works very well for me:
Solutions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol
Step 1. Prepare a hot water bath. Boil water in microwave or on a pot. Once boiling starts remove from heat.
Step 2. Place PEG and powder in beaker.
Step 3. Place the beaker deep enough in to the water so that the hot water is level with the PEG and powder. Gently swirl or stir with a stir rod until solution is clear. Reheat water as needed.
Step 4. Allow PEG to cool some. Then add in your 190 proof alcohol. You don't have to do this drop by drop but don't just dump it in. Pour it in slowly.
Step 5. Stir or gently shake until mixed.
devildog
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I compete. Have a thread here for competitors. And yes, will check out your thread!
bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
Test ace 50%gso 50% safflower oil 2%ba 19%bb 100mg/ml
I think someone else got it to hold w/more safflower and less bb
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I think someone else got it to hold w/more safflower and less bb
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devildog
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I'm hearing some guys are making test at 250 mg/ml with zero bb. I'm afraid to do that unless someone can convince me it's safe to do, and will stay suspended in the depo.
bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
I don't know about that maybe with eo instead of a carrier oil but that's pretty potent for ace although there's not much info out there on brewing ace
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devildog
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What I'm hearing is some are making enanthate, and cyp this way. I, however, do not do that. I like to stick with what has worked for me with the ba and bb being added. Btw, these guys are using gso. I like the low viscosity of gso, but I also want more shelf life, so I'm looking at sesame oil (which my rx depo test contains), for my next run. Viscosity isn't my main concern as stability, and shelf life is.
I have had three semesters of chem and I just found the stepwise for test e on another site. This sounds too good to be true. The process and mixing is unbelievable easy. Anyone else have experience with mixing test e?
devildog
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Lol!! It is that easy. The most important part is maintaining sterile technique, and filtering and that's the actual time consuming part.
Thanks bro for confirming my suspicion. Well, damn I need to give this a go. I already have some lab gear ready just need the vial(s).
Eatliftsleeprepeat
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Hells yea! all the knowledge I will need to perfect my home brew from the best brothers there are haha 
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devildog
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Test E will hold easily at 300mg ml with no BB, Cyp will not. Also Deca holds incredibly well at 300mg ml with just BA.
I am the type that likes to try a ton of different formulas to see how each one reacts or fails or whatever. When I order a 100grams of product I usually figure 5 or 10 grams was to just play, thats how I learned.
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What brand of digital scales do you like the best?
StrengthofSpirit
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Looking forward to soaking up all this knowledge!
I've noticed with adding EO you can reduce the BB alot. Keeping it nice and smooth. Why the 60/40 over 50/50? Same befits for a cheaper cost I am guessing? I think EO is great for those painful short easters
Could you elaborate more please? Just Ba and carrier? I have seen E hold at 15% bb at 250 easy.
Would like to see some recipes compared because most look the same with the exception of filtering methods and use of bb and ba. Might be helpful since I do know folks that can screw up a batch of brownies. If posting this information or links is allowed.
Those folks should stick to learning how to make brownies first....
Then they may move onto pot brownies.
I use american weigh, but then again my options were what my boy brought me from the US. Things like that are expensive in Mexico and selection is limited so I had it brought from the US. Same goes for Whatmans and BB.
Yes just BA and the carrier oil. I learned that from my Fina conversions. Back then I had brought my Fina pellets and a few other items from the US to Mexico and was getting ready to do my 1st brew. I never realized that I could not get Benzyl Benzoate easily down here and did not have any. I was DYING to try my first brew...so I dug as much as I could and found some threads talking about how Tren Ace did not require BB. I tried it, and the hormone held, I pinned and it was great.
From there on I researched what hormones needed what ratio of solvents/co-solvents and experimented so that I could have first hand experience. I realized that a lot of people use default % and are happy with that. I personally wanted to know how and why...
If Test E will hold at 250mg/ml with zero BB, my thought was why add BB? Its funny how people will be concerned about using 3 ml of oil but not be concerned if the formula has 20% BB when it was not necessary.
That was my thought process and opinion. Most people will find a formula that works for them and thats cool, but I dont like to see when péople make a claim or repeat something but actually have never attempted it.
mh8500, thanks for making that clear to me because after reviewing the stepwise that was one question that I had in mind.
devildog
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I'm considering buying these this afternoon. Let me know what you think: http://www.medical-and-lab-supplies...lies/digital-scale-500mg-0-1-mg-accuracy.html
The scales I have now, I just cant mentally trust, and I'd feel better to spend less than $40 for something I can live with.
devildog
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I'm hearing the EXACT same thing about test e. And 250mg/ml is far up as I'll go. Some guys can brew this 600mg/ml stuff, but I like to keep it simple at 250mg/ml. Guess I'm stuck in my ways. Lol!
Sounds good, are you just starting out or been brewing a while?
250 mg/ml is fine. People should look at the pharmacuetical industry uses...like Test Prop was formulated at 50mg/ml, Test E at 250mg, Test Cyp 200mg...you see these compounds were found to be best suited for the masses at these concentrations. Bros like us who want to run a gram a week and dont want to pin a ton of oil, push for higher concentrations. Thats why we get crashed gear, PIP, needs for ethyl oleate, etc.
Also there are physical limitations that a compound will have. In other words the simple mention of 600mg Testosterone needs to be questioned. Testosterone Enanthate would be an extremely difficult ester to hold at 600mg. I would doubt that it would be very possible and even if it was, why? I have heard of Test Decanoate at high levels but never seen it. Test blends at 400 or 450, but my guess is those levels would not actually carry the amount of powder that it would require.
To put it in perspective, 1 bottle of 10ml Test E at 600mg wouldhave 6grams of powder! Thats insane.
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i got T enat to hold at 800, but the pip is unlike anything youve ever had....
devildog
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Agreed! And if you remember the Denkall T400, that's the definition of PAIN! Ouch!!!!
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krazieone56
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Omg 800. Ouch.
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krazieone56
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Hey mh sent you a pm.
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Like I said, why? LOL
What formula did you use? And I bitched about 200mg/ml Prop, hahaha
Got it and sent you one back.
krazieone56
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Yep. I responded lol.
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just screwing around is all. I sued GSO with BA 2%, no BB
krazieone56
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So soon here in a few days I'll be brewing. I'm going to use 20 grams eq and 30 grams cyp in 100ml of total solution. 2% ba 20% bb and a 60-40 split of gso and eo for the carrier. So without taking into account the powder displacement. That would be 500mg per ml right if it doesn't crash on me lol. 300mg cyp 200mg eq per ml. Right? Or did I miss something?
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That is one where I would have to see it to believe it. It sounds like a very high concentration, but then again I have never tried it.
Was it a bitch and a half to filter?
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That is very intresting. Going to have to try. I read much on BB is what causes alot of pip. How high of BA where you going? And what other compounds hold without BB?
devildog
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yes very thick
we only made 20ml
Wow! 800mg/ml, and it's holding stable in the carrier. Amazing! And the Terminator. LOL!
Loadcoil78
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Great thread. Been hoping for this to come along. I would like to be the first dummy to ask for a breakdown of terminology.
BB
BA
And some of the others. The only one I figured out so far is
GSO=grape seed oil
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BB
BA
And some of the others. The only one I figured out so far is
GSO=grape seed oil
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bobsyouruncle
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Eo ethyl oleate (used in place of carrier oils to hold high concentrations due to it being a solvent, also it's very thin, a lot of ppl don't like it because some people have allergic reactions)
That's the only acronym that I can think of that hasn't been covered
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That's the only acronym that I can think of that hasn't been covered
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Loadcoil78
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Thanks. That covers it. Now I'll go back and read it all over again. This is gonna be a great thread
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krazieone56
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Nobody confirmed my math on post. Am I good on that or am I off?
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bobsyouruncle
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Yes that's 500mg/ml
You need 35.5 ml carrier oil
50g powder
2ml ba
20ml bb
To achieve you're desired finished product
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krazieone56
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Nice. And that's makes 100 ml at that dosage?
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bobsyouruncle
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Yes it does but try to get it to hold with less bb if you can I haven't played around with those powders so I don't know if it will but it would be nice to see a little less bb in there
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krazieone56
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Well I was doing ethyl oleate and gso as the carrier. So maybe do 12% bb and see if that plus the eo will hold it.
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bobsyouruncle
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So does anyone have any info in brewing injectable orals? I am interested in doing a dbol/anadrol blend I found this on A.M.
here is the origional
200 mg/ml D-Bol
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The following recipe was derived from several sources and people. It is based off an old pharmaceutical formula that was 60%PEG, 30% PG, and 10% BA. The only modification I made to this is to replace ½ the PG with BB.
For 10ml at 200mg/ml:
2 grams of D-Bol
1 ml of BA
1.5 ml of PG
1.5 ml of BB
~4.5 to 5 ml of PEG 200
Heat the D-Bol, BA, BB, and PG until you get a clear solution. Filter with a .2-micron filter. Flush filter with PEG 200 until you get volume. If you can get a hold of PEG 200 then the 400 will work, just a tad thicker but much hard to draw into a slin pin.
Update: I no longer use PG in this. works fine with out it
what I do with this nowadays is to draw into the dart after I draw the prop or whatever I am taking (its a little stiff without something else so us b12 to cut it if your not taking anything else and are bothered by it but its only a 1/4cc and really not an issue if your using a slin pin) I have another one that works better with oil if you use PEG 600, BA, BB and a little guaucol, it can actually mix in but its termpermental.
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here is the origional
200 mg/ml D-Bol
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The following recipe was derived from several sources and people. It is based off an old pharmaceutical formula that was 60%PEG, 30% PG, and 10% BA. The only modification I made to this is to replace ½ the PG with BB.
For 10ml at 200mg/ml:
2 grams of D-Bol
1 ml of BA
1.5 ml of PG
1.5 ml of BB
~4.5 to 5 ml of PEG 200
Heat the D-Bol, BA, BB, and PG until you get a clear solution. Filter with a .2-micron filter. Flush filter with PEG 200 until you get volume. If you can get a hold of PEG 200 then the 400 will work, just a tad thicker but much hard to draw into a slin pin.
Update: I no longer use PG in this. works fine with out it
what I do with this nowadays is to draw into the dart after I draw the prop or whatever I am taking (its a little stiff without something else so us b12 to cut it if your not taking anything else and are bothered by it but its only a 1/4cc and really not an issue if your using a slin pin) I have another one that works better with oil if you use PEG 600, BA, BB and a little guaucol, it can actually mix in but its termpermental.
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bobsyouruncle
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I found this on steroidology they're referring to anadrol but apparently it's very difficult to keep from crashing I really want to make a blend of dbol/anadrol dosed at 50mg each per ml for a total of 100mg/ml
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Ok, so I've been playing in the lab a bit and made some injectable 100mg/ml drol and 100mg/ml dbol. I started with 2%ba, 20%bb, and the rest EO. The dbol crashed within 4 hrs and the drol started crashing at +8hrs. So the final recipe for each was:
2% BA
20% BB
15% Guaiacol
EO as the carrier
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Ok, so I've been playing in the lab a bit and made some injectable 100mg/ml drol and 100mg/ml dbol. I started with 2%ba, 20%bb, and the rest EO. The dbol crashed within 4 hrs and the drol started crashing at +8hrs. So the final recipe for each was:
2% BA
20% BB
15% Guaiacol
EO as the carrier
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I would like to hear this also. I read alot of the germans injecting there tbol back in there glory days!
yes very thick
we only made 20ml
NICE SD, thick as a Guiness!!
I love people who play in the lab. Have you ever tried to take Boldenone sky high, say above 900?
Damn Bob you the man!! I might get you to sell me a couple of those bad boys
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No but a 400/500 test/eq blend is tempting to try to make
After one shot of 800mg test E im very scared to try that lol
I named it terminator t800 because it terminates your body with test flu and pip
What compound or blend combo would have the least pip in your opinion?
Would using CSO instead of GSO have less pip?
bobsyouruncle
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Anybody picking up var that wants to make injectable I found this
1)Highest concentration made -50ml @ 20mg/ml
1 gram of Oxandrolone powder
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
2)50ml @ 50mg/ml
2.5 grams Anavar (2.5ml)
2.5ml BA
2.5ml BB
5ml guaiacol
37.5ml Oil
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1)Highest concentration made -50ml @ 20mg/ml
1 gram of Oxandrolone powder
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
2)50ml @ 50mg/ml
2.5 grams Anavar (2.5ml)
2.5ml BA
2.5ml BB
5ml guaiacol
37.5ml Oil
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The Test/EQ blend does sound interesting, EQ holds so easily that it should be easy.
DAMN I would be scared too!!!! lol Like I said my Test Prop which was slightly overdosed at around 212mg/ml was painful. My wife used to think that I was exaggeratnig about the PIP. When she ran one of her Test cycles one day I jabbed her with the 200mg Prop and the next day she was crying she couldnt walk, hahhaah. I asked her if she thought I was exaggerating now.
The Test you brewed was just a monster, as was the 200mg Prop. If you stay with compounds within their intended range it should be fine. A Test/Tren/Mast one would probably be sweet, all enanthate esters.
I use Sesame oil on all my brews, I really like it. I have brewed the same compound with GSO and Sesame and could not see the difference, except for color. People say how its thinner etc, but if you pin a person with one, and then the other I do not believe they could actually tell the difference, IMO:
Plus GSO is 3 times more expensive in Mexico than Sesame, lol
Thanks Bob, looks good!
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man just viewing this thread scares me..ill leave this for the big boys! very interesting read though!
Come on in have a seat, relax, Bob will bring some cool drinks by later and you can learn how much fun this is. lol
Honestly if you have any questions or just thoughts on the matter, youre welcome any time. We love to have new recruits!
bobsyouruncle
Buff Brother
I think robos 800mg terminator is what scared him off to be honest with you it scares me a little is that for guys that only have access to 1/2ml slin pins?
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nah its for guys who dont wanna squirt a lotta oil in them!
its the legal repercussions having a cycle or 3 is one thing, but homebrewing would be construed as manufacturing with intent to distribute etc....not something i want to be paranoid about..yet..lol..im def paying attention though...
its the legal repercussions having a cycle or 3 is one thing, but homebrewing would be construed as manufacturing with intent to distribute etc....not something i want to be paranoid about..yet..lol..im def paying attention though...
I understand your point. Glad to have you here and anytime you want to ask a question feel free, and dont worry Bob doesnt bite, lol
It scared me....SD had some stones to pin that. Actually you have to try your own brew, its a golden rule. I mean what kind of chef would cook something and not taste it.
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