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[mh48500]

What I'm hearing is some are making enanthate, and cyp this way. I, however, do not do that. I like to stick with what has worked for me with the ba and bb being added. Btw, these guys are using gso. I like the low viscosity of gso, but I also want more shelf life, so I'm looking at sesame oil (which my rx depo test contains), for my next run. Viscosity isn't my main concern as stability, and shelf life is.

Test E will hold easily at 300mg ml with no BB, Cyp will not. Also Deca holds incredibly well at 300mg ml with just BA.

I am the type that likes to try a ton of different formulas to see how each one reacts or fails or whatever. When I order a 100grams of product I usually figure 5 or 10 grams was to just play, thats how I learned.

 

[devildog]

Test E will hold easily at 300mg ml with no BB, Cyp will not. Also Deca holds incredibly well at 300mg ml with just BA.

I am the type that likes to try a ton of different formulas to see how each one reacts or fails or whatever. When I order a 100grams of product I usually figure 5 or 10 grams was to just play, thats how I learned.

What brand of digital scales do you like the best?

 

[StrengthofSpirit]

Looking forward to soaking up all this knowledge!

 

[J50441]

I like 60-40 approach. 60 % carrier oil 40% ethyl oleate. Lower viscosity. Stays pretty stable too because the eo acts as another co solvent

KRAZIEONE

I've noticed with adding EO you can reduce the BB alot. Keeping it nice and smooth. Why the 60/40 over 50/50? Same befits for a cheaper cost I am guessing? I think EO is great for those painful short easters

 

[J50441]

Test E will hold easily at 300mg ml with no BB, Cyp will not. Also Deca holds incredibly well at 300mg ml with just BA.

I am the type that likes to try a ton of different formulas to see how each one reacts or fails or whatever. When I order a 100grams of product I usually figure 5 or 10 grams was to just play, thats how I learned.

Could you elaborate more please? Just Ba and carrier? I have seen E hold at 15% bb at 250 easy.

 

[devildog]

Guarantee this thread will go pages longer than the longest one, the trading thread.

 

[stretch512]

Would like to see some recipes compared because most look the same with the exception of filtering methods and use of bb and ba. Might be helpful since I do know folks that can screw up a batch of brownies. If posting this information or links is allowed.

 

[J50441]

Would like to see some recipes compared because most look the same with the exception of filtering methods and use of bb and ba. Might be helpful since I do know folks that can screw up a batch of brownies. If posting this information or links is allowed.

Those folks should stick to learning how to make brownies first....
Then they may move onto pot brownies.

 

[mh48500]

What brand of digital scales do you like the best?

I use american weigh, but then again my options were what my boy brought me from the US. Things like that are expensive in Mexico and selection is limited so I had it brought from the US. Same goes for Whatmans and BB.

 

[mh48500]

Could you elaborate more please? Just Ba and carrier? I have seen E hold at 15% bb at 250 easy.

Yes just BA and the carrier oil. I learned that from my Fina conversions. Back then I had brought my Fina pellets and a few other items from the US to Mexico and was getting ready to do my 1st brew. I never realized that I could not get Benzyl Benzoate easily down here and did not have any. I was DYING to try my first brew...so I dug as much as I could and found some threads talking about how Tren Ace did not require BB. I tried it, and the hormone held, I pinned and it was great.

From there on I researched what hormones needed what ratio of solvents/co-solvents and experimented so that I could have first hand experience. I realized that a lot of people use default % and are happy with that. I personally wanted to know how and why...

If Test E will hold at 250mg/ml with zero BB, my thought was why add BB? Its funny how people will be concerned about using 3 ml of oil but not be concerned if the formula has 20% BB when it was not necessary.

That was my thought process and opinion. Most people will find a formula that works for them and thats cool, but I dont like to see when péople make a claim or repeat something but actually have never attempted it.

 

[stretch512]

mh8500, thanks for making that clear to me because after reviewing the stepwise that was one question that I had in mind.

 

[devildog]

I use american weigh, but then again my options were what my boy brought me from the US. Things like that are expensive in Mexico and selection is limited so I had it brought from the US. Same goes for Whatmans and BB.

I'm considering buying these this afternoon. Let me know what you think: http://www.medical-and-lab-supplies...lies/digital-scale-500mg-0-1-mg-accuracy.html
The scales I have now, I just cant mentally trust, and I'd feel better to spend less than $40 for something I can live with.

 

[devildog]

Yes just BA and the carrier oil. I learned that from my Fina conversions. Back then I had brought my Fina pellets and a few other items from the US to Mexico and was getting ready to do my 1st brew. I never realized that I could not get Benzyl Benzoate easily down here and did not have any. I was DYING to try my first brew...so I dug as much as I could and found some threads talking about how Tren Ace did not require BB. I tried it, and the hormone held, I pinned and it was great.

From there on I researched what hormones needed what ratio of solvents/co-solvents and experimented so that I could have first hand experience. I realized that a lot of people use default % and are happy with that. I personally wanted to know how and why...

If Test E will hold at 250mg/ml with zero BB, my thought was why add BB? Its funny how people will be concerned about using 3 ml of oil but not be concerned if the formula has 20% BB when it was not necessary.

That was my thought process and opinion. Most people will find a formula that works for them and thats cool, but I dont like to see when péople make a claim or repeat something but actually have never attempted it.

I'm hearing the EXACT same thing about test e. And 250mg/ml is far up as I'll go. Some guys can brew this 600mg/ml stuff, but I like to keep it simple at 250mg/ml. Guess I'm stuck in my ways. Lol!

 

[mh48500]

mh8500, thanks for making that clear to me because after reviewing the stepwise that was one question that I had in mind.

Sounds good, are you just starting out or been brewing a while?

 

[mh48500]

I'm hearing the EXACT same thing about test e. And 250mg/ml is far up as I'll go. Some guys can brew this 600mg/ml stuff, but I like to keep it simple at 250mg/ml. Guess I'm stuck in my ways. Lol!

250 mg/ml is fine. People should look at the pharmacuetical industry uses...like Test Prop was formulated at 50mg/ml, Test E at 250mg, Test Cyp 200mg...you see these compounds were found to be best suited for the masses at these concentrations. Bros like us who want to run a gram a week and dont want to pin a ton of oil, push for higher concentrations. Thats why we get crashed gear, PIP, needs for ethyl oleate, etc.

Also there are physical limitations that a compound will have. In other words the simple mention of 600mg Testosterone needs to be questioned. Testosterone Enanthate would be an extremely difficult ester to hold at 600mg. I would doubt that it would be very possible and even if it was, why? I have heard of Test Decanoate at high levels but never seen it. Test blends at 400 or 450, but my guess is those levels would not actually carry the amount of powder that it would require.

To put it in perspective, 1 bottle of 10ml Test E at 600mg wouldhave 6grams of powder! Thats insane.

 

[-SD-]

250 mg/ml is fine. People should look at the pharmacuetical industry uses...like Test Prop was formulated at 50mg/ml, Test E at 250mg, Test Cyp 200mg...you see these compounds were found to be best suited for the masses at these concentrations. Bros like us who want to run a gram a week and dont want to pin a ton of oil, push for higher concentrations. Thats why we get crashed gear, PIP, needs for ethyl oleate, etc.

Also there are physical limitations that a compound will have. In other words the simple mention of 600mg Testosterone needs to be questioned. Testosterone Enanthate would be an extremely difficult ester to hold at 600mg. I would doubt that it would be very possible and even if it was, why? I have heard of Test Decanoate at high levels but never seen it. Test blends at 400 or 450, but my guess is those levels would not actually carry the amount of powder that it would require.

To put it in perspective, 1 bottle of 10ml Test E at 600mg wouldhave 6grams of powder! Thats insane.

i got T enat to hold at 800, but the pip is unlike anything youve ever had....

 

[devildog]

250 mg/ml is fine. People should look at the pharmacuetical industry uses...like Test Prop was formulated at 50mg/ml, Test E at 250mg, Test Cyp 200mg...you see these compounds were found to be best suited for the masses at these concentrations. Bros like us who want to run a gram a week and dont want to pin a ton of oil, push for higher concentrations. Thats why we get crashed gear, PIP, needs for ethyl oleate, etc.

Also there are physical limitations that a compound will have. In other words the simple mention of 600mg Testosterone needs to be questioned. Testosterone Enanthate would be an extremely difficult ester to hold at 600mg. I would doubt that it would be very possible and even if it was, why? I have heard of Test Decanoate at high levels but never seen it. Test blends at 400 or 450, but my guess is those levels would not actually carry the amount of powder that it would require.

To put it in perspective, 1 bottle of 10ml Test E at 600mg wouldhave 6grams of powder! Thats insane.

Agreed! And if you remember the Denkall T400, that's the definition of PAIN! Ouch!!!!

 

[devildog]

i got T enat to hold at 800, but the pip is unlike anything youve ever had....

I can only imagine the pain... Ouch!

 

[krazieone56]

Omg 800. Ouch.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Hey mh sent you a pm.

KRAZIEONE