Very thankful for this thread, future sources are going to come out of this.
Vee gee no.20229 glass beakers,a stirr rod (I use a long glass thermometer),empty presealed sterile vials,20ml syringes,syringe filters,18g needles,ba,bb,eo,safflower,grapeseed oil,a heating element (stove), an accurate scale, hormone powder this is more than you actually need and I included whatever I have stashed away and unopened in the pics but you can do without the eo,and you only need one type of carrier oil
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Does it recrash once you inject it?
KRAZIEONE
Where do you get BA and BB?
I still dont know what BA is lol...
Benzyl alcohol.....medlabsupply
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Benzyl alcohol.....medlabsupply
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Hell yeah! Imma get me some beakers, and bunsen burners, and vials, and tubes, and all kinds a shit and go at it MAD SCIENTIST style.
I mean, thanks fellas. Sorry, keys are close together on this keyboard.
Hell yeah! Imma get me some beakers, and bunsen burners, and vials, and tubes, and all kinds a shit and go at it MAD SCIENTIST style.
I mean, thanks fellas. Sorry, keys are close together on this keyboard.
As exciting as it is remember sterility is your #1 priority
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Best noob advice right here.
Dont use the syringe filters. Spend the money and get a pump cause you will after you realize the other filters dont work.
What kind of pump?
Ya first timers listen up. Its a rule and a tradition to filter your first batch by hand.
KRAZIEONE
This is the homebrewers version of Home Depot
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LOL!!!!! I was reading a few pages back, and stumbled on this one! LOL!!! Btw, have you made water based winny, or test? This is the project I'll be working on. Test suspension, tren suspension, and winny. Not a mix. each separate. All 50mg/ml to keep crashing to a minimum, but still a decent dose per ml.
How bout 75mg tren 50mg test in eo only?
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I've thought about that to help knockout pip, but I'm really wanting to stick with the water based with these compounds as it hits me faster.
I can appreciate that I would like to see a test/tren mix if it would hold in water great but I doubt it would when my shipment comes in I'll play around a little I want what everyone wants a badass preworkout powerhouse I wonder how much faster a water suspension will hit you than an oil base no ester
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Gonna be compounding a tren suspension, and test suspension, both water based. I'm a fan of test suspension, and since I'll be going back to tren in short durations, can imagine what these will be like for pre work out, as well as contest prep. Here's the first recipe for tne suspension:
"Here is his first recipe that does include filter instructions. If you trust your powder and you have properly made sterile water usuing all sterile equipment then no need to fuck with filters.
Guys, I've been working my butt off to perfect this and I finally got it. Here is a formula for Test no ester (water based suspention) at 75mg/ml that will pass through a 30ga slin pin with no clogging. ENJOY!!!
TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water
1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.
2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***
3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.
4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.
5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**
by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!"
Yes, that was a copy and paste. Opinions?
Another copy and paste that does seem to make better sense (for me, anyway)
And note, this is for winny, but tne will be substituted, as well as a change to the recipe:
"How to make Winstrol Suspension @ 100mg/mL X 20mL in water.
-2 grams stanozolol powder X 0.75 displacement volume = 1.5mL
-24% BB = 4.8mL
-3% BA = 0.6mL
- 3% Polysorbate 80 = 0.6mL
-DISTILLED Water (ONLY use Distilled Water!) 12.5mL
Procedures:
-Combine stanozolol powder, BA, BB, PS80 and heat until clear while swirling.
-Filter slowly with a Sterile 0.22um Syringe Filter directly into a Sterile Vial.
- Filter the distilled water with a new Sterile 0.22um Syringe filter into the vial - Keep swirling the vial as you filter in the distilled water.
-Vigorously shake the Winstrol in the vial for a few minutes
Complete! You now have Winny @ 100mg/mL X 20mL.
NOTE: your final Winny solution will look foamy or airy. After you shake the hell out of it, let it sit untouched for 3 days. You will see it settle out with the water on top as usual. This will be very micronized and settling out will take days, so do not be concerned.
This will produce the standard PIP of Winstrol found in Underground Labs, it is not totally painfree - but not painful."
Opinions?
Bob, earlier you posted your process for capping Viagra. Can you post up the basic formula for computing dosage per cap using a powder and filler? I'm kind of lost here, but a simple manual capping machine isn't too expensive, and I thought "why not?" But the measuring and mixing part of the process worries me. Calculating qty needed for a given dose, say 20mg and then mixing it with filler and getting even distribution would appear to be the most important part.
Recently took up interest in brewing my own shit. Prices for raw materials are cheap, and I figure I would save a shitload of money instead of buying gear now and then. Will read through this carefully
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Why do you need a calculator? Don't u just fill the pill casing to top ? I only ask cause I have never done it.
KRAZIEONE
I was curious and I just looked at the first post on this thread as well as the trading thread this thread is about 50posts short of the trading thread but the trading thread has been up and running about 2-1/2months longer it's exciting to see how well this thread is doing!
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After the mass oral special and the esterless wonders test e just seems a little un exciting I mean no disrespect I'm just trying to voice my opinion it may be a good idea to give x ammount away to a predetermined number of bros that have never brewed with the agreement that they will brew it and run it along with their next cycles I think they should start a thread or just piggyback on this one and write about their ratios any problems they may encounter the pip (if any) and the quality of their own homebrewed gear I honestly think that would help push the homebrewing movement on this site more than anything else could[Q UOTE=mh48500;77863]Philisophical question Bros.....I have a 100 grams of Test Enanthate I am just dying to give away, hahahaha What should us more established members do with it to stimulate, excite, and tittilate new potential brewers?
Any ideas? Lets make it a group decision..or fuck the newbs lets split this shit up!!! LOL
Is it exciting...no. Is it the most practical and basic thing that everyone would need...yes. that's the key. Test is the base to all cycles, I think it's a great idea, but I'm more of a test c guy myself hahaha.
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I'm in. But you know I already know how to do it. I fixed that cyp I made it holds at 140ml. 500 mg/ml.
KRAZIEONE
I'm currently sitting on a small stockpile of test e I love long esters I just think the only way to get guys excited about it is to have them agree to try brewing it and record and share everything
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Well I told the whole story I think you saw. So after tinkering trying to keep it from crashing. 3%ba I bumped it to 20% bb. And the rest eo no other oil. Not sure how it will shoot yet. Cause I'm out of filters so its sitting in 100ml vial and a couple 10's. I will have a new set of filters here soon and a vaccum pump for filtering.
KRAZIEONE
Bob has spoken! I understand what you mean...lol. I like your idea though about giving it out amongst some new Bros with the agreement that they will try to brew, post their experiences, etc. It would be nice tool to promote the lounge.
I am going to send this 100 grams over to a special VIP then and once we get settled in a bit more here I will be happy to offer it again with the idea of getting some new guys involved.
I got you covered Bob, I will hit you with a little Test Prop as a thank you with the current order.
Bob has spoken! I understand what you mean...lol. I like your idea though about giving it out amongst some new Bros with the agreement that they will try to brew, post their experiences, etc. It would be nice tool to promote the lounge.
I am going to send this 100 grams over to a special VIP then and once we get settled in a bit more here I will be happy to offer it again with the idea of getting some new guys involved.
I got you covered Bob, I will hit you with a little Test Prop as a thank you with the current order.
Got a couple hundred grams of raws last week and my chems/filters/vials/clean room suit are coming on monday.. Gonna be a good week!
Funny you say that. I wear a gown, head cover, mask, and gloves that I tape to the sleeves of the gown. I do all this after taking a shower, then scrubbing my hands and forearms with a surgical scrub. Once my Son goes to school, I'll put on some music, and get down to business.![]()
Painters suit Home Depot works great you can pick up nitrile or latex gloves there too
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^ this was a cut and paste I'm not sure why it doesn't ask for bac water does anyone have any ideas as to how to get tren ne into a suspension?
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I've found out that bact water can be used, but is unnecessary. Also, page 27 of this thread are the test no ester recipes. I'll be using a variation of the recipes I posted for tren susp in p27 here, and will post the exact numbers when I get a stable, sterile, potent pre workout, weight throwing formulation. Ooh rah!
You'll be helping a lot of bros out with those numbers
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Will be glad to help! And a tren suspension... That's pre workout wicked! Lol!
I've found out that bact water can be used, but is unnecessary. Also, page 27 of this thread are the test no ester recipes. I'll be using a variation of the recipes I posted for tren susp in p27 here, and will post the exact numbers when I get a stable, sterile, potent pre workout, weight throwing formulation. Ooh rah!
Are u going to be making them together in one tne and trne or two bottle separate recipes and then load the needle from both bottles 50 mg each and hit the gym?
I would defiantly like the recipe once you work it out.
KRAZIEONE
Are u going to be making them together in one tne and trne or two bottle separate recipes and then load the needle from both bottles 50 mg each and hit the gym?
I would defiantly like the recipe once you work it out.
KRAZIEONE
It sounds like dd is planning on two individual batches each a different compound I am hoping to take his findings and tweak them until I can get a blend to hold if I succeed I will definitely share my findings
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Btw, my birthday is rather close by: http://www.aircleansystems.org/process_vertical.htm
DUUUUUUDE I build something like this out of a big rack, intake/exhaust fans w/HEPA filters, and plexiglass when I was younger for keeping things clean when taking apart CPU hard drives, I really need to make another for brewing gear
I've seen something similar mycologist use....
I've seen something similar mycologist use....
Funny you say that. I wear a gown, head cover, mask, and gloves that I tape to the sleeves of the gown. I do all this after taking a shower, then scrubbing my hands and forearms with a surgical scrub. Once my Son goes to school, I'll put on some music, and get down to business.![]()
I usually brew naked lol.
KRAZIEONE
I'm a hairy bastard it would never work for me
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So you've stated that you have used IV drugs in the past and I believe it is safe to say with this last statement you are ordering syringes full of spores and injecting them into mycelium and placing in big Tupperware tubs? I'm onto you buddy we may have more in common than you think
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IM drugs, not IVI tried morning glory, several different times..i got the right seeds and all..just made me puke..ugh
You need to smash the husks and only take the inside the hairy outside is what makes you sick I used to get that off then throw a ton if them into a blender then I put the powder into pantyhose and soaked it in petroleum ether I don't remember what else I had to do but the finished product was a suspension in 190 proof and it made you trip balls for a short while
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Peyote grows in the wild here and is easy to find. Im not big on doing psychadelics, but we throw some in pure alcohol and use it as a rubdown for tired and sore muscles.
If you ever come visit me in Mexico Bob we can try some peyote tea together, they say it kicks pretty nice!
Peyote grows in the wild here and is easy to find. Im not big on doing psychadelics, but we throw some in pure alcohol and use it as a rubdown for tired and sore muscles.
If you ever come visit me in Mexico Bob we can try some peyote tea together, they say it kicks pretty nice!
Damn that's the one I haven't tried yet when I got married I told my wife I wouldn't use any harsh drugs anymore (coke) but that if I ever came across peyote that I had to try it psychedelics were my go to I was into natural ones mushrooms and mescaline mostly I used acid and a couple synthetics but they had a harsh "push" to them and felt amphetamine like and dirty I haven't touched any in about a year and last time was because a buddy wanted to try mushrooms and I decided to help him out but you just gave me some serious incentive to take a vacation
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Well if you and your wife ever decide to come to the Guadalajara area, you never have to worry about a place to stay. Or if you ever get to Puerto Vallarta its a 4 and a half hour drive.
There are some VERY fun things available to play with and if we stay in my town, there is literally nothing we could get in trouble for.
I love it you're a good bro for sure
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Whoa just checked back in on the thread and yall have been all over. Bob I always wanted to try those Hawaiian seeds but I heard the puke factor was pretty high. I had been reading about research chems like 2CI and 2cb being legal to buy over in the UK. I've just been focusing on getting cut and built up, haven't really done any recreationals in a long - long while. I always preferred psychedelics over any others really.
Thanks for the tip, maybe I will try someday - gonna have to be when everyone is gone from my house though. So back to brewing... I remember back when I was in chemistry we had to have very good aseptic techniques. When going for a batch do you guys spray everything down, sterilize instruments, garb up, put on gloves? Are you approaching the brew methods as you would in a chem lab or do some of you just go for a more clandestine approach?
I've done both when I started I wiped everything down sterilized beakers etc. and brewed in shorts or sweats and a beater the gear was fine but now I take every precaution I can and I try to leave bb as low as possible
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I look and feel like Walter White when compounding.![]()
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