Anonymity while ordering

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After reading posts on where one should have shipments sent, with the consensus being, “don’t worry about it “, I was left with a question. What about anonymity with the supplier?

For example, creating an account with PSL. Should one have an encrypted email service? Should one order over VPN? What are the technical and privacy concerns if any?

I’m ready to place my first order and I’d like guidance on how to stay private.

Thanks


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[samgraves82]

For whats its worth, and probably not much to you, I do use an encrypted email account but thats all. Also, I'd like to think that my domestic source(only source at the moment, takes his own precautions to keep our info safe, after all, thats just more evidence that could be used against him/her. Just my 2 cents.

 

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For whats its worth, and probably not much to you, I do use an encrypted email account but thats all. Also, I'd like to think that my domestic source(only source at the moment, takes his own precautions to keep our info safe, after all, thats just more evidence that could be used against him/her. Just my 2 cents.

Hey samgraves82, your source must use the same email service or did you exchange keys? Is your source an approved source on EVO?


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[Gruntwerkz]

I’ve personally never seen anyone have issues with any information ordering, in terms of legal problems or stolen info.

There’s a few basic things I would follow, these should be obvious.

- don’t ever send anyone credit card info, 99% of sources do not accept CC for obvious reasons. If for some reason they do then always pay thru a secure system like PayPal or Circle.

- never give out banking info, meaning account and routing numbers directly. Same applies as above, only thru a secure third party way to send the money.

- if your nervous about money gram or western union using your name then use bitcoin, this allows you to essentially use credit card or bank ach to pay (thru buying bitcoin then sending them).

- don’t ever give out social security numbers online, hope that’s 101 for anyone.

- if any source is seriously invasive about information that’s a red flag, once they receive payment all they need is a legit shipping address that the USPS will deliver too.

Most people dont care what your doing online as long as it isn’t henious, like kiddie porn, hiring hit men.. etc. most people who have issues with this are people with big mouths, I’ve had a buddy get charged with AAS sales because he was helping his friend out who ended up in legal trouble, snitched him out. Another guy I knew had his fiancé snitch on his AAS use in family court, they had a custody battle and he had a few assault charges on his record (not on his wife) so once the judge and DA heard of AAS use they spun this story he’s violent and unstable. He lost custody of his kids and was a great father, all because a bitch was siesty.

People only know what you tell them, no legit source cars to put your info out there.

Hope this helps.

 

[samgraves82]

Hey samgraves82, your source must use the same email service or did you exchange keys? Is your source an approved source on EVO?


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No. Guy i use i ran across, and got lucky, on eroids list. I dunno bout his email service. Always just been a name that pops up instead of email address, weird i know. No keys either. My next order will be a source from here tho. Already lined up and just waiting to pill the trigger.

 

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No. Guy i use i ran across, and got lucky, on eroids list. I dunno bout his email service. Always just been a name that pops up instead of email address, weird i know. No keys either. My next order will be a source from here tho. Already lined up and just waiting to pill the trigger.

Gotcha, any idea which source you’ll use? Seems PSL is the only choice.


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[Petah]

I use an encrypted email address and a VPN but the second one wouldn't really be necessary. Your biggest worry is the order being seized in the mail I think not your online data.

 

[samgraves82]

Gotcha, any idea which source you’ll use? Seems PSL is the only choice.


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I do but, no offense to you, but im still very new to the whole forum thing so i dunno if popping off about who im gonna use would would sit well with people so just gonna stay hush hush for now. However, i see no reason why any.source on here wouldn't be trustworthy. But once i settle in a bit more I'll be lil more open bout things.

 

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I do but, no offense to you, but im still very new to the whole forum thing so i dunno if popping off about who im gonna use would would sit well with people so just gonna stay hush hush for now. However, i see no reason why any.source on here wouldn't be trustworthy. But once i settle in a bit more I'll be lil more open bout things.

Same. I’m new too. Not completely certain on etiquette yet.


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[samgraves82]

Same. I’m new too. Not completely certain on etiquette yet.


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Good. Thanks for "gettin it"

 

[airpoints]

I mean when you pay with crypto use a email you don't use with anything personal and then give them a false last name or cut your last name to just a letter incase you have issues with delivery.

 

[E32038]

I recommend tutanota or protonmail

 

[samgraves82]

I use proton now myself

 

[Eddie Haskell]

After reading posts on where one should have shipments sent, with the consensus being, “don’t worry about it “, I was left with a question. What about anonymity with the supplier?

For example, creating an account with PSL. Should one have an encrypted email service? Should one order over VPN? What are the technical and privacy concerns if any?

I’m ready to place my first order and I’d like guidance on how to stay private.

Thanks


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You could use encrypted e-mail and the like, but you still have to give out your name and address to your source so that that source will be able to send your order. Too, your source doesn’t care about who you are. They only care about your ability to pay.
With that said, the best way to protect yourself is to only buy from foreign sources who are not susceptible to being raided by the DEA and having their mailing list fall into the wrong hands. Simply stated, domestic sources can be compromised by US law enforcement while foreign sources are not so compromisable.

 

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You could use encrypted e-mail and the like, but you still have to give out your name and address to your source so that that source will be able to send your order. Too, your source doesn’t care about who you are. They only care about your ability to pay.
With that said, the best way to protect yourself is to only buy from foreign sources who are not susceptible to being raided by the DEA and having their mailing list fall into the wrong hands. Simply stated, domestic sources can be compromised by US law enforcement while foreign sources are not so compromisable.

I ordered today from PSL. I used the name “Current Resident” and I created my account with an anonymous email account, although not encrypted. I sent payment with tracking, signature, and insurance to cover the value if lost. Separate letter with order number and tracking number as instructed. We’ll see how it goes.


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[E32038]

One of my friends is a US Marshall, who happens to use steroids also. Anyway, he has worked with postal inspectors in be past and told me plausible deniability on a “current resident” package works only up until the second you open it. They said, in fact if the mail isn’t a bulk mail it is a dead giveaway for illegal activity. The mailmen are trained to flag those. Now the good news is, they said due to the paperwork they rarely do.

 

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One of my friends is a US Marshall, who happens to use steroids also. Anyway, he has worked with postal inspectors in be past and told me plausible deniability on a “current resident” package works only up until the second you open it. They said, in fact if the mail isn’t a bulk mail it is a dead giveaway for illegal activity. The mailmen are trained to flag those. Now the good news is, they said due to the paperwork they rarely do.

That’s a great tip. Too late this go round though. I’m moving at the end of the month. I won’t open the package until I’ve moved. Did your friend happen to mention the best way to do it?


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[E32038]

No, he did not. I didn’t ask that question. The chances of being targeted are super low. Especially in a major metro area where a ton of mail comes.

I got a PSL package from Poland the other day. Tracked it through NYC customs. No issues. Just use my name. No biggie. They are looking for raws not personal use stuff. I have even flown with it in my carry on. That is when I use slin pins and I use a b12 bottle. TSA has only asked me once what it is and I tell them I am diabetic. They never look at the actual stuff. Just making sure it isn’t a bomb. That is all they care about.

 

[Gruntwerkz]

That’s a great tip. Too late this go round though. I’m moving at the end of the month. I won’t open the package until I’ve moved. Did your friend happen to mention the best way to do it?


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Open your package, I think you’re being a little paranoid.

Read my post way above, no one is out to get you unless you’ve done something to be watched or someone is going to tell on you.

 

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Open your package, I think you’re being a little paranoid.

Read my post way above, no one is out to get you unless you’ve done something to be watched or someone is going to tell on you.

Yeah. Perhaps overly cautious. Perhaps not. No harm in being careful. Great harm in not. I’m sure I’ll settle in after a few orders.


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[Gruntwerkz]

Yeah. Perhaps overly cautious. Perhaps not. No harm in being careful. Great harm in not. I’m sure I’ll settle in after a few orders.


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Just keep your business private, don’t tell anyone what you’re doing, if your sketched out then share no info with your gym buddies.

No one should be watching your mail without any real tip off, if it passes customs your good. I’ve had a few taken in customs, you just get your letter and that’s that.

You wouldn’t believe the shit that comes thru the mail. Your few vials are child’s play to the bigger picture.

 

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Just keep your business private, don’t tell anyone what you’re doing, if your sketched out then share no info with your gym buddies.

No one should be watching your mail without any real tip off, if it passes customs your good. I’ve had a few taken in customs, you just get your letter and that’s that.

You wouldn’t believe the shit that comes thru the mail. Your few vials are child’s play to the bigger picture.

True. I watched a documentary on drug dealers. They all use usps and the like now.


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