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Hey this is my first post and I’m fairly new to the game. Currently I’m just running test and var but I’m about the end my var cycle and I’m going to cruise test for next couple months then looking to maybe start a deca run nothing crazy just want to see how I react to it. Was thinking something like a 200mg deca run with test but doing some reading I’ve seen a lot about deca, progestin etc. I’ve seen proviron, mast, primo recommended but I’m curious about the primo. Current idea is something like 200test, 200deca 200 primo. Test dose may change. I’m looking at pharmaqo primo from domestic-supply. Wondering what peoples experience is with that one and also about this kind of run?
Beautiful stack but what’s your age. BF% goals etc
I’m 6’2” 240lbs approx 14%
what was your goals on the Test and Var? I highly recommend 6 weeks of a 200 MG test cruise then run 16 weeks of 300-500 mg of Test with Reta. Add maybe 70-100 mg of Tren final 8 weeks. 25-50 mg of anavar daily final 4-6 weeks. End goal being to cut down to 7-8% BF then cruise 6-8 weeks. Then run your 20 week bulk cycle. If you run something like this you’ll be 240 and shredded at like legit 12% BF guys way overestimate how low their BF is. 12% will be a full 6 pack especially if you train abs during your bulk
You could also run primo or masteron at equal mg to test during your cut
Goal right now is maybe some lean mass gains. Main thing that got my attention with the deca is the joint magic it has. I actually thought about tossing Reta in for next var run but right now I’m fairly happy with my BF %. I suppose my goal right now is gym milestones. I want more weight in the bar
I need to see pictures of you though to see if you’re a true 14% currently
You look solid but definitely you are in prime zone for a real cut. Once you’re ready to start I prefer a cycle for myself of
300-500 mg test weekly
200-400 mg of masteron
2 mg of Reta titrate up every 2-4 weeks end somewhere around 5-6 mg weekly (Reta is the key for the cut)
Tren 70-100 mg weekly final 6-8 weeks
Var 25-50 mg daily final 4-6 weeks.
Track all food. Aim to lose 2 pounds per week for 20 weeks. I guarantee you’ll be happy you did. That’ll set you on your path to a big rebound where you jump back to around 240 pounds but at like 12-14% bf shredded and massive
now you got me wondering if I should cut more maybe after this var run I’ll up he test get some blood work over 6weeks then add some Reta but what about some primo instead of mast? I’ll run either one but seems like primo has less sides? Ive heard a lot of primo ends up being mast anyways.
maybe after this var run I’ll up he test get some blood work over 6weeks then add some Reta but what about some primo instead of mast? I’ll run either one but seems like primo has less sides? Ive heard a lot of primo ends up being mast anyways.
Primo is better it’s just a lot more expensive but it’s amazing for lowering estradiol so you can run high Test. Primo and test are PB&J. Masteron is easier to get and a bit cheaper. Also has some really good benefits for cutting.now you got me wondering if I should cut more
But yeah get your bloods done. Then definitely run a true 16-20 week cut. I’m pretty sure your goals are to be big and vascular just like all of ours 
only way to achieve that is by starting from 7-9% BF. Then you bulk. End your bulk around 14-15% BF cut back to 7-8% bulk again. Rinse repeat. Everytime aiming to gain 5-10 pounds of lean muscle and then retaining that lean muscle in your cut so eventually you’re like 240 at 10% BF fucking hulk
only way to achieve that is by starting from 7-9% BF. Then you bulk. End your bulk around 14-15% BF cut back to 7-8% bulk again. Rinse repeat. Everytime aiming to gain 5-10 pounds of lean muscle and then retaining that lean muscle in your cut so eventually you’re like 240 at 10% BF fucking hulk
you can generally run primo or mast 1:1 ratio to your Test or about 80% of your test. So if you run 400 mg test you’re safe with 400 mg of primo or 300bigger and stronger is always the goal
If you are a high aromatizer I’d go with primo for the E2 lowering benefits
Masteron just has better skin tightening and dry benefits imo. Just a better look in a cut
My plan for myself is to run masteron in my cuts and primo in my bulks
My philosophy is
-Test as the Base
-Masteron/primo as main anabolics
-Decca for bulk Tren for cut as my secondary anabolics
- Anadrol for bulk oral anavar for cut oral
My philosophy is
-Test as the Base
-Masteron/primo as main anabolics
-Decca for bulk Tren for cut as my secondary anabolics
- Anadrol for bulk oral anavar for cut oral
Other guys prefer different things but I like these stacks for myself. And always aim to use the lowest effective doses.
That with Reta you’ll be on your way brotha
I’m sure they will ask you to start a log. I’d like to follow along. You have tons of mass bro you can be a unit within a year. Shredded as fuck and huge
deca is a bulker through and through. forget it until you give yourself some room to bulk
100%
You have to earn your bulk. Otherwise you’ll just be strong and fat with high probability of developing gyno. Get to a legit 10% BF or lower then bulk like a MF
