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devildog
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NONE! Ask caligirl, or Valkyrie. Yes, some females do use test, but unless they're going pro, it's a dumb idea.
Stats? Goals? History of use??
^^^this!!!!
How old is she? I appreciate the stubborness but she'd be stupid to use something a lot harder if she's not competing. If she really wants that, honestly, I'd tell her to make the effort and get online and do her own research. Just about every site I go on, there are women who will give her the same advice. Having said that, I'd want to know her cycle history before giving you any other suggestions. If she's only just started var, there's no reasonable reason not to run the cycle. There are a few other things she could try but again, stacking looks different for women and she will run a higher risk of virilizing side effects.
she is 42, eats like a horse...never seen any junk food though
ran some short cycles of deca and dbol 4 weeks ( what her x was having her use)
has used var before with clen
I cant emphasize enough that this lady is frugal, lives for the workout and dedicated way beyond me...dammit
ran some short cycles of deca and dbol 4 weeks ( what her x was having her use)
has used var before with clen
I cant emphasize enough that this lady is frugal, lives for the workout and dedicated way beyond me...dammit
She could look into primo or npp. Depending on her tolerance to sides, I wouldn't stack it first. I'd run them solo till she knows how she responds. I'd still encourage her to do her own research. Nothing bugs me more than women who don't take the initiative. She obviously has the dedication and really should spend a little time online. It's part of the whole process right?
devildog
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Testosterone shouldn't even be a topic of conversation for getting a bikini body.
for a woman??
fizzisnumerouno
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Fluoxymesterone
fizzisnumerouno
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Test prop? and what do you think about masteron ?
devildog
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She wants to use test, and try tren for a bikini body? You're about to see her screw up her hormones, and your relationship. This is probably one of the dumbest things I've read here this week. Females wanting the bodybuilding drugs, and for what she's wanting, clen and t3 are the norm. NOT heavy androgens. There are some female pros out there that use test as well as tren. Not all, however. And your gf is far from a pro at 135lbs. Clen and t3.
devildog
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Neither for a female. I'm on both right now, however.
devildog
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devildog
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No, I'm pointing out a stupid move to get in a bikini using test and/or tren. Leave that stuff to the big gals who compete, and are already "changed" in many ways.
fizzisnumerouno
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Mine were jokes.... Test prop woul be the only test for bikini body imho..... Test range for gals is 15-70 ng/dL. So even 50 mg of test can put a female up to 125-175 ng/dL... so lets say she is in the middle of the accepted range (42.5), she could be increasing herself up to 400% of her homeostatic level.... That's just 50mg. I personally can see this helping short term but hormonally speaking? I don't think it'd be worthwhile so I agree with Devil, who's my Dog and a VIP here for a reason. The only thing i disagree with him on is replacing the clen with albuterol from www.ag-guys.com as it is not harsh on the ticket. Gw 501516 and ostarine from www.sarms1.com would get her a beach body for sure... But she has to do an hour of fat burn cardio a day. N2burn from www.needtobuildmuscle.com is also a great addition to the above.
PM me if you have any questions.
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it was a joke lol, idk anything about female cycles
devildog
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Albuteral would be fine. Seems to be the clen replacement these days. My main concern with the LP's gf is when she comes off, and her hormones are wacked. Could damn near end a relationship.
I'm really with devildog on this one. The fact that she's even thinking about tren should be a big red flag to you that she really has no idea what she's doing and has no business using that type of drug. It's such a double standard. If a guy came here with that type of question about himself, we'd all demand his stats, years training, diet, cycle history etc etc. It's irresponsible for you or any of us to tell her what to take without her doing her own homework. It just is. Women SERIOUSLY underestimate the long term effects of ANY steroid use. You just can't predict how it will impact you in later life and eventually, you will pay the piper. If nothing else, cover your own ass. Even if you give her a low dose primo cycle or something like that, you can't predict what will happen and if she ends up with irreversible sides, she will blame you. Been there and done that. Even though it's ultimately her choice.
I'm not saying she shouldn't run a cycle but I am saying if she's that dedicated to her body, she should put some time in and make her own choices. With guidance of course. We are trying to promote responsible use here. She really should be able to get what she wants with a simple var cycle.
And at 42, you could kick yourself into early menopause and baby....that just doesn't go away. There's no caber or AI that's gonna fix that. But...when you want the body, you don't always think about the long term effects or even the short term ones for that matter.
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