Hammer please explain this bub. I can tell that it is defiantly a different brew. This batch is twice as dark and in a different vial then the other ones I had but they have the same D.O.B. It's got me confused.![]()
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Are they two different colors because of diff carriers possibly?Fresh batch same labels brother.
Hammer please explain this bub. I can tell that it is defiantly a different brew. This batch is twice as dark and in a different vial then the other ones I had but they have the same D.O.B. It's got me confused.![]()
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Hey odie I think you complained about the tren so you could get some for free using your "veteran status" for personal gain. You two faced limp dick faggot.Hey franco in case you actually wanna see what the gear looks like that you keep trolling about, just look up ^^^^^
Honestly I am going to wait. I am already running some other tren. Even when and if I do run this I won't review it for 2 reasons.Hey odie are you gonna try this stuff out soon or wait?
Hey odie are you gonna try this stuff out soon or wait?
Hey odie I think you complained about the tren so you could get some for free using your "veteran status" for personal gain. You two faced limp dick faggot.
Honestly I am going to wait. I am already running some other tren. Even when and if I do run this I won't review it for 2 reasons.
1. It was given to me for free so I can't review because of that.
2. Hammer is trying to do the right thing so I won't review a product that I can't actually prove weather its good or bad. I am amazed that he made me whole after my bad review on his tren cause I couldn't prove it.
Hey odie I think you complained about the tren so you could get some for free using your "veteran status" for personal gain. You two faced limp dick faggot.
How about don't read my postCome on man! This is getting old. Either contribute to the community or gtfo!! All of your post are arguing or throwing stones at somebody. Some of us are here for networking and support. If you're down with that then that's awesome, if not move along bro. It's really getting old now.
How about don't read my post
What's funny is this fucking retard doesn't have any clue that he's trolling. He loves any attention he can get. He loves it here. He can talk slick and he doesn't get knocked the fuck around.I'll say this last thing. The oldfags will continue to botch and ride the flame train. But one thing you can't stop is satisfied customers and from what I seen on these hammer threads is theirs more satisfied customers then their is oldfags riding each other's comments
Of course the fact that the guy posting is a rep matters. Nothing else does once that fact is revealed.I will admit that with the guy not returning PM's it does seem like he could be a reverse scammer. Now as far as the bloods posted on ASF, the guy is a Rep for Hammer if that counts for anything. I'm hoping Odie posts some good bloods tomorrow and my mind can be put at ease or this will be one expensive and hard lesson learned.
This lame will be gone when this source is.Wow leaking product? Thx for putting that out there hammer, I can't take rookie mistakes like that considering I'm already a controlled substance offender. This dude doesn't have any room to bash anyone with such rookie mistakes
What's funny is this fucking retard doesn't have any clue that he's trolling. He loves any attention he can get. He loves it here. He can talk slick and he doesn't get knocked the fuck around.
Child abuse is a crime Franco. I bet it's hard going to school every day hoping nobody looks closely enough to see. Your secret is safe here. You get lost in a fantasy world here.
When you see the headlights flash against the wall and you hear dad's car pulling up reality sets in. I bet that sinking feeling in your stomach is something you never get used to. The degree that you get your ass kicked is dependent on how many drinks dad had after work. Fuck, kid. Get help. A priest, guidance counselor. You don't deserve any of it.
If you want us to accept you just stop being a fucking punk. We'll take you in. We're men, yes...but not all men are bad. Give the guys here a chance. You'll never know if you keep running your fucking mouth.
Of course the fact that the guy posting is a rep matters. Nothing else does once that fact is revealed.
You're new to all this. A few guys know me here. I've been doing this thing since the late 90's. You used the term incorrectly. A reverse scammer isn't a source. A source can be a scammer or a SELECTIVE scammer. The second one is an interesting but disgusting animal.
A selective scammer will be sure to get the vets and respected, well known members their gear and orders. Often times he will appear to force his product on them. He'll get at them by pm. He knows that in doing so(or he hopes) he will receive public praise for fast TA etc and that new members and everyone else will read it and feel good about ordering and will send him their money.
When orders do start coming in he won't take everyone's money. That would be suicide. Won't last long that way. Ideally he would like to rip of the "lurkers". Those are guys that don't post. The come looking for one reason...a source. They'll read posts and make a decision. They aren't looking to join in conversation or make connections. They want gear.
There are boards that make it easy for scamming scumbag motherfucking sources to run their game. OLM, PM, ironman, and others. They actually give sources moderator control over their own threads. The sources can edit and delete posts as they see fit. The aren't erasing cuss words. They're taking out posts that call them out for the things members are posting about here. If only the good posts remained what would you do? You'd send your money in and feel good about doing so.
You used the term "reverse scammer". I hate them more than I hate scamming sources. They extort gear from sources by threatening to spread the word by making negative posts about them. Nothing kills a new source faster than bad online reviews. The reverse scammer may be subtle about it by saying he doesn't want to but he'll have to post that the gear sucks. He may lie and say the vials broke in transit. His experience was a good one but he'll lie to get free gear. Most new sources won't even question these claims. They send free gear out because its less expensive than the customers he'll lose if the guy posts the things he threatens to do.
They undermine the work some guys do to keep a board honest and reward good honest sources. They are the bottom feeders of the on line community.
You also have shills. These are "plants" or associates of the source that pretend to be regular members. They say how great the source is and how they've put on 25 lbs of lean mass in a month. This alex member is a plant/shill....he may even be hammer. Checking and comparing join dates and reviewing posts make it easy to get a handle on who these garbage people are.
This lame will be gone when this source is.
I have room to bash you. What other boards are you on? The answer is none. That is unless he's at meso doing the same thing there. Fuck yourself. The party is just about over. It sucks when the well runs dry. All that cash coming in day after day...and then nothing. Kill yourself..while u can still afford it.
I read a couple of posts where hammer is asking for bloods and labs? At meso he refused to do any testing. Stall tactics to bring in the coin for as long as possible. He will try and keep things moving for as long as he can. He'll end up owing members he told he'd make whole. He'll close up and open again under a different name and run a variation of the scam. He did well with this one. He's very proud of himself. Lowlife pick pocket. The light being on him shows the pos that he is.
How about stop junking up the threads with stupid shit and I won't have to. Somehow I expected to get aa reply like that. I'm asking nicely for you to stop with all the negative shit bro
What's funny is this fucking retard doesn't have any clue that he's trolling. He loves any attention he can get. He loves it here. He can talk slick and he doesn't get knocked the fuck around.
Child abuse is a crime Franco. I bet it's hard going to school every day hoping nobody looks closely enough to see. Your secret is safe here. You get lost in a fantasy world here.
When you see the headlights flash against the wall and you hear dad's car pulling up reality sets in. I bet that sinking feeling in your stomach is something you never get used to. The degree that you get your ass kicked is dependent on how many drinks dad had after work. Fuck, kid. Get help. A priest, guidance counselor. You don't deserve any of it.
If you want us to accept you just stop being a fucking punk. We'll take you in. We're men, yes...but not all men are bad. Give the guys here a chance. You'll never know if you keep running your fucking mouth.
Of course the fact that the guy posting is a rep matters. Nothing else does once that fact is revealed.
You're new to all this. A few guys know me here. I've been doing this thing since the late 90's. You used the term incorrectly. A reverse scammer isn't a source. A source can be a scammer or a SELECTIVE scammer. The second one is an interesting but disgusting animal.
A selective scammer will be sure to get the vets and respected, well known members their gear and orders. Often times he will appear to force his product on them. He'll get at them by pm. He knows that in doing so(or he hopes) he will receive public praise for fast TA etc and that new members and everyone else will read it and feel good about ordering and will send him their money.
When orders do start coming in he won't take everyone's money. That would be suicide. Won't last long that way. Ideally he would like to rip of the "lurkers". Those are guys that don't post. The come looking for one reason...a source. They'll read posts and make a decision. They aren't looking to join in conversation or make connections. They want gear.
There are boards that make it easy for scamming scumbag motherfucking sources to run their game. OLM, PM, ironman, and others. They actually give sources moderator control over their own threads. The sources can edit and delete posts as they see fit. The aren't erasing cuss words. They're taking out posts that call them out for the things members are posting about here. If only the good posts remained what would you do? You'd send your money in and feel good about doing so.
You used the term "reverse scammer". I hate them more than I hate scamming sources. They extort gear from sources by threatening to spread the word by making negative posts about them. Nothing kills a new source faster than bad online reviews. The reverse scammer may be subtle about it by saying he doesn't want to but he'll have to post that the gear sucks. He may lie and say the vials broke in transit. His experience was a good one but he'll lie to get free gear. Most new sources won't even question these claims. They send free gear out because its less expensive than the customers he'll lose if the guy posts the things he threatens to do.
They undermine the work some guys do to keep a board honest and reward good honest sources. They are the bottom feeders of the on line community.
You also have shills. These are "plants" or associates of the source that pretend to be regular members. They say how great the source is and how they've put on 25 lbs of lean mass in a month. This alex member is a plant/shill....he may even be hammer. Checking and comparing join dates and reviewing posts make it easy to get a handle on who these garbage people are.
This lame will be gone when this source is.
I have room to bash you. What other boards are you on? The answer is none. That is unless he's at meso doing the same thing there. Fuck yourself. The party is just about over. It sucks when the well runs dry. All that cash coming in day after day...and then nothing. Kill yourself..while u can still afford it.
I read a couple of posts where hammer is asking for bloods and labs? At meso he refused to do any testing. Stall tactics to bring in the coin for as long as possible. He will try and keep things moving for as long as he can. He'll end up owing members he told he'd make whole. He'll close up and open again under a different name and run a variation of the scam. He did well with this one. He's very proud of himself. Lowlife pick pocket. The light being on him shows the pos that he is.
Sorry man...it's not like I want to. Unfortunately I have nothing to contribute So I'd rather not say dumb stuff however I'd like to send messages to ask questions but since I can't do that until 100 comments are done, I will keep doing this dumbness unfortunately
Sorry man...it's not like I want to. Unfortunately I have nothing to contribute So I'd rather not say dumb stuff however I'd like to send messages to ask questions but since I can't do that until 100 comments are done, I will keep doing this dumbness unfortunately
Oh...ok. sorry dude I've never done a forum before. Thank you. I downloaded it. Appreciated.
Someone plz ban this phag
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I'm referring to this Tony guy
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Hey some do find it harder than others. Lol.It's not hard to contribute, it's called having a brain , reading, studying,
Hey yo. How's it going. What's up w this 123456 guy. Lol. Does he really think a source will sell to him having not made any friends or quality posts.Good morning Krazie.
Ok, besides calling me a phag, I apologized for not knowing how this works. It's my first forum and I was reading derogatory and positive stuff about this product. How do I decipher?
Hey guys, just wanted to update a little. I fell back a little just do to negativity being the main thing happening for a few days. I don't get blood until next Friday so it will be that Monday ill have results back. I had been running test prop and tren ace from hammer, I have as of today discontinued the tren ace, it did nothing and left me with mean pip, I emailed hammer who promptly said he would correct the issue and replace the products. I am still running the test prop at 100 a day, I had switched from one ugl ro hammers to get bloods done, I see no difference as of yet, it has been a week, still I'm gonna wait a bit longer before I say exactly what its doing for me, I was on a very very good test prop prior so it hasn't been long enough imo to make a judgement, could be wrong but that's just my thoughts. The tren though was not pleasant at all, I'm glad hammer said he would correct it, I give him that, things happen but its all about correcting mistakes. I'll let you guys know more as I figure it out, and as soon as the new products land ill post that as well. Have a good day and lets all hope for the best as far as everything else goes, so far he has been a man of his word to me so I giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.
LMFAO you oldfags are too funny! That's a really deep thought man sounds like you got some daddy issues u need to figure out. For the mean time let the good times keep trollin I mean Rollin lmaoWhat's funny is this fucking retard doesn't have any clue that he's trolling. He loves any attention he can get. He loves it here. He can talk slick and he doesn't get knocked the fuck around.
Child abuse is a crime Franco. I bet it's hard going to school every day hoping nobody looks closely enough to see. Your secret is safe here. You get lost in a fantasy world here.
When you see the headlights flash against the wall and you hear dad's car pulling up reality sets in. I bet that sinking feeling in your stomach is something you never get used to. The degree that you get your ass kicked is dependent on how many drinks dad had after work. Fuck, kid. Get help. A priest, guidance counselor. You don't deserve any of it.
If you want us to accept you just stop being a fucking punk. We'll take you in. We're men, yes...but not all men are bad. Give the guys here a chance. You'll never know if you keep running your fucking mouth.
Of course the fact that the guy posting is a rep matters. Nothing else does once that fact is revealed.
You're new to all this. A few guys know me here. I've been doing this thing since the late 90's. You used the term incorrectly. A reverse scammer isn't a source. A source can be a scammer or a SELECTIVE scammer. The second one is an interesting but disgusting animal.
A selective scammer will be sure to get the vets and respected, well known members their gear and orders. Often times he will appear to force his product on them. He'll get at them by pm. He knows that in doing so(or he hopes) he will receive public praise for fast TA etc and that new members and everyone else will read it and feel good about ordering and will send him their money.
When orders do start coming in he won't take everyone's money. That would be suicide. Won't last long that way. Ideally he would like to rip of the "lurkers". Those are guys that don't post. The come looking for one reason...a source. They'll read posts and make a decision. They aren't looking to join in conversation or make connections. They want gear.
There are boards that make it easy for scamming scumbag motherfucking sources to run their game. OLM, PM, ironman, and others. They actually give sources moderator control over their own threads. The sources can edit and delete posts as they see fit. The aren't erasing cuss words. They're taking out posts that call them out for the things members are posting about here. If only the good posts remained what would you do? You'd send your money in and feel good about doing so.
You used the term "reverse scammer". I hate them more than I hate scamming sources. They extort gear from sources by threatening to spread the word by making negative posts about them. Nothing kills a new source faster than bad online reviews. The reverse scammer may be subtle about it by saying he doesn't want to but he'll have to post that the gear sucks. He may lie and say the vials broke in transit. His experience was a good one but he'll lie to get free gear. Most new sources won't even question these claims. They send free gear out because its less expensive than the customers he'll lose if the guy posts the things he threatens to do.
They undermine the work some guys do to keep a board honest and reward good honest sources. They are the bottom feeders of the on line community.
You also have shills. These are "plants" or associates of the source that pretend to be regular members. They say how great the source is and how they've put on 25 lbs of lean mass in a month. This alex member is a plant/shill....he may even be hammer. Checking and comparing join dates and reviewing posts make it easy to get a handle on who these garbage people are.
This lame will be gone when this source is.
I have room to bash you. What other boards are you on? The answer is none. That is unless he's at meso doing the same thing there. Fuck yourself. The party is just about over. It sucks when the well runs dry. All that cash coming in day after day...and then nothing. Kill yourself..while u can still afford it.
I read a couple of posts where hammer is asking for bloods and labs? At meso he refused to do any testing. Stall tactics to bring in the coin for as long as possible. He will try and keep things moving for as long as he can. He'll end up owing members he told he'd make whole. He'll close up and open again under a different name and run a variation of the scam. He did well with this one. He's very proud of himself. Lowlife pick pocket. The light being on him shows the pos that he is.
Hey guys, just wanted to update a little. I fell back a little just do to negativity being the main thing happening for a few days. I don't get blood until next Friday so it will be that Monday ill have results back. I had been running test prop and tren ace from hammer, I have as of today discontinued the tren ace, it did nothing and left me with mean pip, I emailed hammer who promptly said he would correct the issue and replace the products. I am still running the test prop at 100 a day, I had switched from one ugl ro hammers to get bloods done, I see no difference as of yet, it has been a week, still I'm gonna wait a bit longer before I say exactly what its doing for me, I was on a very very good test prop prior so it hasn't been long enough imo to make a judgement, could be wrong but that's just my thoughts. The tren though was not pleasant at all, I'm glad hammer said he would correct it, I give him that, things happen but its all about correcting mistakes. I'll let you guys know more as I figure it out, and as soon as the new products land ill post that as well. Have a good day and lets all hope for the best as far as everything else goes, so far he has been a man of his word to me so I giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.
Was your tren in a clear or amber colored vial?
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Hey guys, just wanted to update a little. I fell back a little just do to negativity being the main thing happening for a few days. I don't get blood until next Friday so it will be that Monday ill have results back. I had been running test prop and tren ace from hammer, I have as of today discontinued the tren ace, it did nothing and left me with mean pip, I emailed hammer who promptly said he would correct the issue and replace the products. I am still running the test prop at 100 a day, I had switched from one ugl ro hammers to get bloods done, I see no difference as of yet, it has been a week, still I'm gonna wait a bit longer before I say exactly what its doing for me, I was on a very very good test prop prior so it hasn't been long enough imo to make a judgement, could be wrong but that's just my thoughts. The tren though was not pleasant at all, I'm glad hammer said he would correct it, I give him that, things happen but its all about correcting mistakes. I'll let you guys know more as I figure it out, and as soon as the new products land ill post that as well. Have a good day and lets all hope for the best as far as everything else goes, so far he has been a man of his word to me so I giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.
I believe Odies bloods should be in today and will let us know the deal
Clear bottle amber colored oil
Did you change gear or keep running the tren from hammer? Just curious because I am about to trash it, so if you got results I hate to waste it. New gear or dose change? Sorry if you already answered that but I'm just happy to hear someones experience with it as well
I apologized already. I can't contribute because I'm just learning from others on this forum now. How do I decipher the positive and derogatory remarks about this product?
Anyone running the test?
That's a crazy mix, how is it working for you? I have been told its just the greatest feeling and by others its to much for them. I am definitely gonna run it now, ill stick with ace so if I want to drop it quick I can but I love some advice. Tren is one of those things where everyone has a different reaction so id like as much personal experience information I can gather. I was in high hopes when I started that tren, and all I got was some sore ass injection sites, by far the worst pip I have ever felt!
I am on the test C, 750mg/week. Not long enough to see anything from it yet, I am on the dbol as well and I have seen nothing from it. I usually see some bloating and libido from dbol at this point, even at low dosages. I am taking 75mg/day lol, obv running liver support.
I am on the test C, 750mg/week. Not long enough to see anything from it yet, I am on the dbol as well and I have seen nothing from it. I usually see some bloating and libido from dbol at this point, even at low dosages. I am taking 75mg/day lol, obv running liver support.
I am on the test C, 750mg/week. Not long enough to see anything from it yet, I am on the dbol as well and I have seen nothing from it. I usually see some bloating and libido from dbol at this point, even at low dosages. I am taking 75mg/day lol, obv running liver support.
That's a crazy mix, how is it working for you? I have been told its just the greatest feeling and by others its to much for them. I am definitely gonna run it now, ill stick with ace so if I want to drop it quick I can but I love some advice. Tren is one of those things where everyone has a different reaction so id like as much personal experience information I can gather. I was in high hopes when I started that tren, and all I got was some sore ass injection sites, by far the worst pip I have ever felt!
Thanks for that info here man. I'm learning about this so bare with me. What's your PCT going to be after this cycle?Oh I love it. TrenA makes you feel like your on a roller coaster. Your constantly up and down cause of the short life of it. Well with the mix ( A, Hex, E ). It's a smooth ride brother. I fear I took to much. I was used to pinning hammers TrenA at 200mg or 2 ml EOD, so I started pining the mix at 1.5 ml EOD and I'm probably gonna have to back it down a bit.
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I think it was you and I on another thread of his complaining together about his dbol. Lol
Yea, I'm the same way, 50mgs of dbol a day for five days and I start getting signs, sex drive through the roof, the bloat is never far behind either. I have a bunch of hammer test prop so I have my fingers crossed, not to mention my pct as well.
What all you running right now?I am honestly real pissed, this cycle was after a long break from gear just to let my body recover and run on its own for awhile. I was pretty jacked up about this cycle, had been missing it.
30-40 mg of Dbol should be more than enough for most people without a tolerance.
What all you running right now?
I am honestly real pissed, this cycle was after a long break from gear just to let my body recover and run on its own for awhile. I was pretty jacked up about this cycle, had been missing it.
LMFAO you oldfags are too funny! That's a really deep thought man sounds like you got some daddy issues u need to figure out. For the mean time let the good times keep trollin I mean Rollin lmao
I hear you brother. This is my first cycle in 2 yrs. I'm hoping the test comes back good.
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Jesus Christ. 75mg of dbol? I hope u got your supports going double time. Thats a ton bro.75mg dbol/day
750mg/week test C
Gbpack did you ever get you're light for the labmax test?
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