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Helladrol and Dieselbolan 2.0

backtolife

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i plan to do the following

deiselbolen 2.0 (3 caps a day)
hella (2 caps per day)
hcgenerate during and after
Forma Stanzol on a need to bases
UNLEASHED+POST CYCLE COMBO
Forged Liver Support during and after

should i run the hella at 3 caps per day?

any advice?
 
i plan to do the following

deiselbolen 2.0 (3 caps a day)
hella (2 caps per day)
hcgenerate during and after
Forma Stanzol on a need to bases
UNLEASHED+POST CYCLE COMBO
Forged Liver Support during and after

should i run the hella at 3 caps per day?

any advice?

potent stack brah.

whats your weight?
 
i would advise against stacking diesel and helladrol. diesel already has 2 steroids in it. no need for more.

I could see running some forma with it. but not stacking anymore methylated steroids with it.

I've stacked sd with hd and can handle it.

but when I tried to stack hd with dimethazine, it just didn't feel good.
 
whats your stats? (will help with doseing critique)

diesel+hella is a GREAT stack i did in with the original version of hella and was by far my favorite PH cycle iv done.
 
i am 6'2 190 8%bf

i ran some heavy stuff years ago and wanted to get back into it. i thought this might be a good stack
 
What's up man. I too would not run both Dv2 and Hella, I would pick one or the other. If you are looking for size, go with the Dv2, if looking more to lean out/cut then go for the Hella. Also, I would consider running Sustain Alpha during pCT. I am also going to send you a PM..take care..SJ
 
do you guys have a reason for suggesting not to run them together?
 
do you guys have a reason for suggesting not to run them together?


I don't really think there is any need to run three oral Ph or DS for that matter
at the same time. I think two is more then enough. Liver enzymes will normally go up with just one 17 A PH, nevermind three. I have run several PH/DS cycles in the past and I always get bloodwork done before and after. I documented it for myself. The more PH/DS (multiple, ie, PPLex/Mdrol vs just PPlex or just Mdrol, etc..The difference in my bloodwork spelled it out for me. The liver enzymes were always much higher when I stacked two or more Ph/DS vs just one. Now, everyone reacts different so maybe he should get bloodwork done before and after with just DV2 and then next time around stack the DV2 with Hella, and see if there is a difference. For me, there was. Anyway, that's why I gave him this answer..Thank you..SJ
 
i am going to run the dv2.0 alone and leave the hella for another time. after a few pm's it is clear that the two are not great run together if that is you care for your liver,lol. and since i do i will just run the stack as shown minus the hella.

again your info was great and i thank all of you.
 
good deal bro. Good luck with it and keep us informed..SJ
 
i have to dissagree... i did diesel V.1 at 3 caps/day and hella at 150mg/day for 4 weeks and was the greatest ph stack iv ever done. if your not experienced or know what your doing and do not how to help your liver throughout the cycle then dont do it... but to say its a horrible idea is not the case IMO. theres novice, the expert, and the ballsy... pick one lol
 
Hey doc, How are you..I dont know if you were referring to me or not when you said "that's a horrible idea" cause I never said that. In regard to your post, yes, being educated is very important. I have always been a believer in gettting the most gains out of as little pH/DS as possible. That's how I always was and am. I have been doing PH/DS cycles for a long time and not till this past year or two did I start stacking two at a time, for a while, it was just one. I have always responded well to just one so I was lucky for that..Anyway, I respect your opinion on the matter. Like I said earlier, everyone is different and maybe some people could run three without a problem. Take care and have a good night..SJ
 
i wasnt quoteing you directly, i was just saying in general type of thing... But i do like how respectful you are in your response, i highly admire that.
 
the first diesel was pheraplex. 3 caps i believe would of been 30mg.

150mg of hella (hd).

this equals 180mg of methylated steroids. completely overkill.

im not saying it wasn't a great cycle. but of course if you dose hd so high, it is going go give you explosive gains.

but you would of gotten even better gains with 30mg of pp and 30mg of sd since you like big dosing.

I would never, recomend anyone to stack that large amount of pp/hd together.

to me, that is a complete waste, and irresponsible. just my opinion.
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I wouldn't stack helladrol with diesel v2.0 because I have tried to stack hd with dimethazine when it was first released, and I felt like shit. it sucked.

I believe this is d/t lack of estrogen, and the immune system being lowered from dimethazine, which is what users seem to report from running the compound solo.
sickness at the end of the cycle.

I had also believed it to best be stacked with an aromatizable non methyl compound, (like test) and what do I stumble on, hey, dieselbolan stacks dimethazine with max lmg. a nor-androgen prohormone, that aromatizes in small amounts.
you already have two potent steroids in diesel 2.0, no need to add in more.

and hd is a slow acting mild steroid. big gains will only come from big dosages. or one could just save money and buy a bottle of epistrong, or beastdrol big gains.

If you did stack hella with diesel, I would only use the hella for its ability to lower circulating shbg. you could use it at a very low dose, say 25-50mg. this would free up more steroid for the receptor sites. (but would also free up more estrogen too)

I plan on running a dirty bulk cycle in the near future with diesel bolan, to give dimethazine another shot. hopefully this time it impresses me.
 
the first diesel was pheraplex. 3 caps i believe would of been 30mg.

150mg of hella (hd).

this equals 180mg of methylated steroids. completely overkill.

im not saying it wasn't a great cycle. but of course if you dose hd so high, it is going go give you explosive gains.

but you would of gotten even better gains with 30mg of pp and 30mg of sd since you like big dosing.

I would never, recomend anyone to stack that large amount of pp/hd together.

to me, that is a complete waste, and irresponsible. just my opinion.
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I wouldn't stack helladrol with diesel v2.0 because I have tried to stack hd with dimethazine when it was first released, and I felt like shit. it sucked.

I believe this is d/t lack of estrogen, and the immune system being lowered from dimethazine, which is what users seem to report from running the compound solo.
sickness at the end of the cycle.

I had also believed it to best be stacked with an aromatizable non methyl compound, (like test) and what do I stumble on, hey, dieselbolan stacks dimethazine with max lmg. a nor-androgen prohormone, that aromatizes in small amounts.
you already have two potent steroids in diesel 2.0, no need to add in more.

and hd is a slow acting mild steroid. big gains will only come from big dosages. or one could just save money and buy a bottle of epistrong, or beastdrol big gains.

If you did stack hella with diesel, I would only use the hella for its ability to lower circulating shbg. you could use it at a very low dose, say 25-50mg. this would free up more steroid for the receptor sites. (but would also free up more estrogen too)

I plan on running a dirty bulk cycle in the near future with diesel bolan, to give dimethazine another shot. hopefully this time it impresses me.

again... im going to have to completely dissagree. if you do your research and KNOW WTF you are doing then there should be no problem...
but to each their own i suppose...
 
yea, your probably right. I dont do research or know what the hell im doing. :D
 
yea, your probably right. I dont do research or know what the hell im doing. :D

lol, i wasnt refering to you! again a generalized statement...
 
I like to generalize, it makes things complicated. but hey, different strokes for different folks.

I've seen some fool stack some crazy m1t stacks, and i've stacked some crazy shit, i just dont recomend it, thats all.
 
i dont reccomend it for a novice user at all, but once one becomes more "experienced" then you know peple start to experiment with compound stacks/doseages etc...
 
dieselbolan v 2.0 contains dimethazine. only one i'd trust to actually contain it.
 
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