HGH + IGF1 lR3?

[quarterpounderking]

Anyone has experience with using HGH and IGF1 LR3? I'm curious if it's worth running together during an AAS cycle.

IGF is like half the price of GH and every grey market peptide vendor has it.

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Hgh works best when used for a long period of time like 6 months straight with no breaks. Igf1 is only used for 20 to 30 days before you burn out the receptors.

So to spend the money on a 30 day blast of igf1 and 30 days of hgh that is a waste of money.

Are ready to make the commitment to hgh? Run hgh for 6 months than add in 30 day blast igf1. Now u will know how you react to hgh solo.

 

[LevButlerov]

Anyone has experience with using HGH and IGF1 LR3? I'm curious if it's worth running together during an AAS cycle.

IGF is like half the price of GH and every grey market peptide vendor has it.

welcome to the EVO family @quarterpounderking first your username, you like quarter pounders? they are awesome no bun! lol

ON the IGF its short term use vs hgh longer term use, but depends really on how you cycle now, what do you take now? cycle? experience? tell us more about yourself please

@HarleyGuy @waggat @Kopite67 @Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @catdadironman @bss @Ohdamn @toddthelineman @BeMe

 

[toddthelineman]

Anyone has experience with using HGH and IGF1 LR3? I'm curious if it's worth running together during an AAS cycle.

IGF is like half the price of GH and every grey market peptide vendor has it.

Hgh is expensive because it’s worth it. Igf… I think that’s an advanced peptide. For very advanced PED users. The really real stuff is absurdly expensive and hard to get

 

[Robarock]

Anyone has experience with using HGH and IGF1 LR3? I'm curious if it's worth running together during an AAS cycle.

IGF is like half the price of GH and every grey market peptide vendor has it.

I'd have a bunch of questions to figure out what would be best for you. Are you chasing long term or short term gains? LR3 can be a fantastic tool to help with very short term gains, and from a non-ped perspective it will give you the best short term gains. HGH over a long term or ongoing use is going to help provide body recomposition, some healing, and better sleep.

If you want to focus on the short term gains from LR3, it works best if you stack it with PEG-MGF. The two together maximize the potential short term gains.

For clients that I work with that don't want to do PEDs yet, this is the protocol that I have them run to get short term gains. It's important to note that you want to inject after training and consume with protein and simple carbs to increase saturation in the muscles.

Run IGF-1-LR3 at 50 to 100 mcg every day, and PEG-MGF every 3rd day at 300 to 500 mcg. IGF-1-LR3 has a long half life of 20 to 30 hours however daily dosing is done for receptor signaling, not blood levels. Dosing daily to create a new signaling pulse rather than relying on leftover levels. Daily dosing creates repeated pulses of satellite cell activation, mTOR signaling, and nutrient uptake. By doing this it keeps the muscle in a frequent growth signal environment during the cycle. So 50 to 100 mcg daily. The same concept applies to PEG-MGF, but the reason dosing is less frequent is a little different. Unlike IGF-1 LR3, PEG-MGF’s main job is to trigger satellite cell activation, which happens in a short signaling window after muscle damage (training).Once that signal is triggered, giving more immediately doesn't add much. So frequent dosing isn’t necessary. So 300–500 mcg every 3 to 4 days. PEG-MGF actually works best when IGF-1 is present later, because the satellite cells it activates still need IGF signaling to become new muscle fibers.

Feel free to DM me if you have any questions or need some help.

 

[waggat]

I'd have a bunch of questions to figure out what would be best for you. Are you chasing long term or short term gains? LR3 can be a fantastic tool to help with very short term gains, and from a non-ped perspective it will give you the best short term gains. HGH over a long term or ongoing use is going to help provide body recomposition, some healing, and better sleep.

If you want to focus on the short term gains from LR3, it works best if you stack it with PEG-MGF. The two together maximize the potential short term gains.

For clients that I work with that don't want to do PEDs yet, this is the protocol that I have them run to get short term gains. It's important to note that you want to inject after training and consume with protein and simple carbs to increase saturation in the muscles.

Run IGF-1-LR3 at 50 to 100 mcg every day, and PEG-MGF every 3rd day at 300 to 500 mcg. IGF-1-LR3 has a long half life of 20 to 30 hours however daily dosing is done for receptor signaling, not blood levels. Dosing daily to create a new signaling pulse rather than relying on leftover levels. Daily dosing creates repeated pulses of satellite cell activation, mTOR signaling, and nutrient uptake. By doing this it keeps the muscle in a frequent growth signal environment during the cycle. So 50 to 100 mcg daily. The same concept applies to PEG-MGF, but the reason dosing is less frequent is a little different. Unlike IGF-1 LR3, PEG-MGF’s main job is to trigger satellite cell activation, which happens in a short signaling window after muscle damage (training).Once that signal is triggered, giving more immediately doesn't add much. So frequent dosing isn’t necessary. So 300–500 mcg every 3 to 4 days. PEG-MGF actually works best when IGF-1 is present later, because the satellite cells it activates still need IGF signaling to become new muscle fibers.

Feel free to DM me if you have any questions or need some help.

Nice information there mate!

 

[Robarock]

Nice information there mate!

My pleasure. Works like a charm for some pretty decent fast gains with no gear. Pairing it with some gear pushes that gains even higher.

 

[quarterpounderking]

welcome to the EVO family @quarterpounderking first your username, you like quarter pounders? they are awesome no bun! lol

ON the IGF its short term use vs hgh longer term use, but depends really on how you cycle now, what do you take now? cycle? experience? tell us more about yourself please

@HarleyGuy @waggat @Kopite67 @Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @catdadironman @bss @Ohdamn @toddthelineman @BeMe

Not currently on cycle, and my only gear experience is peptides. I'm waiting on a USP shipment for some test and EQ. Was originally gonna run 4IU HGH for full duration of a 12–16-week cycle, but was looking for some other compounds to throw in there for more short term results.

 

[quarterpounderking]

I'd have a bunch of questions to figure out what would be best for you. Are you chasing long term or short term gains? LR3 can be a fantastic tool to help with very short term gains, and from a non-ped perspective it will give you the best short term gains. HGH over a long term or ongoing use is going to help provide body recomposition, some healing, and better sleep.

If you want to focus on the short term gains from LR3, it works best if you stack it with PEG-MGF. The two together maximize the potential short term gains.
For clients that I work with that don't want to do PEDs yet, this is the protocol that I have them run to get short term gains. It's important to note that you want to inject after training and consume with protein and simple carbs to increase saturation in the muscles.

Run IGF-1-LR3 at 50 to 100 mcg every day, and PEG-MGF every 3rd day at 300 to 500 mcg. IGF-1-LR3 has a long half life of 20 to 30 hours however daily dosing is done for receptor signaling, not blood levels. Dosing daily to create a new signaling pulse rather than relying on leftover levels. Daily dosing creates repeated pulses of satellite cell activation, mTOR signaling, and nutrient uptake. By doing this it keeps the muscle in a frequent growth signal environment during the cycle. So 50 to 100 mcg daily. The same concept applies to PEG-MGF, but the reason dosing is less frequent is a little different. Unlike IGF-1 LR3, PEG-MGF’s main job is to trigger satellite cell activation, which happens in a short signaling window after muscle damage (training).Once that signal is triggered, giving more immediately doesn't add much. So frequent dosing isn’t necessary. So 300–500 mcg every 3 to 4 days. PEG-MGF actually works best when IGF-1 is present later, because the satellite cells it activates still need IGF signaling to become new muscle fibers.

Feel free to DM me if you have any questions or need some help.

Thanks for the advice. Was looking for a short term blast of IGF while using GH for more long term results just like you said. I'll look into PEG-MGF.

Does dose timing matter? Is there any additional benefit to dosing post workout or before sleep like with HGH?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Anyone has experience with using HGH and IGF1 LR3? I'm curious if it's worth running together during an AAS cycle.

IGF is like half the price of GH and every grey market peptide vendor has it.

Running both same time would be overkill imo but we also don't know your history.

Why don't you tell us more about you and your experience and stats to give us an idea on how to answer this for you. Better yet start up a log and keep us updated on your progress and the results if you run both together with dosages.

 

[Robarock]

Thanks for the advice. Was looking for a short term blast of IGF while using GH for more long term results just like you said. I'll look into PEG-MGF.

Does dose timing matter? Is there any additional benefit to dosing post workout or before sleep like with HGH?

I agree with @HarleyGuy using HGH at the same time is most likely overkill, but the science is not conclusive. HGH is converted by your body to IGF-1, so if you're already supplementing IGF-1 directly, it's unlikely necessary.

 

[quarterpounderking]

Running both same time would be overkill imo but we also don't know your history.

Why don't you tell us more about you and your experience and stats to give us an idea on how to answer this for you. Better yet start up a log and keep us updated on your progress and the results if you run both together with dosages.

No history yet. I'm waiting on a shipment from USP to begin my cycle. I'll start a log and document results, if it's even worth to run together and not wreck my blood glucose.

 

[HarleyGuy]

No history yet. I'm waiting on a shipment from USP to begin my cycle. I'll start a log and document results, if it's even worth to run together and not wreck my blood glucose.

You'll get full support if you start a log bro, I'll be waiting. Please do.

 

[LevButlerov]

Not currently on cycle, and my only gear experience is peptides. I'm waiting on a USP shipment for some test and EQ. Was originally gonna run 4IU HGH for full duration of a 12–16-week cycle, but was looking for some other compounds to throw in there for more short term results.

have you done bloods yet? its crucial and hows your log? @quarterpounderking

 

[Nasser1997o2]

igf1 lr3 is a good way to throw money down the drain.

Hgh is expensive because it works.

vendors stock ig1 lr3 because people buy it.

People also buy lottery tickets.

No serious bodybuilder wastes their time with ig1 lr3

Even bio-identical increlex isnt much better than long term high dose HGH

 

[Robarock]

igf1 lr3 is a good way to throw money down the drain.

Hgh is expensive because it works.

vendors stock ig1 lr3 because people buy it.

People also buy lottery tickets.

No serious bodybuilder wastes their time with ig1 lr3

Even bio-identical increlex isnt much better than long term high dose HGH

I hear you completely and agree. LR3;is what I use with clients who don't want to use gear. It's the normal person's gear. I put up a protocol stacked with PEG-MGF that does produce results in non enhanced people.

 

[LevButlerov]

igf1 lr3 is a good way to throw money down the drain.

Hgh is expensive because it works.

vendors stock ig1 lr3 because people buy it.

People also buy lottery tickets.

No serious bodybuilder wastes their time with ig1 lr3

Even bio-identical increlex isnt much better than long term high dose HGH

There are good reasons to use IGF pre workout I have seen @RoidRage69 do well on it, but its not for everyone for sure.

 

[quarterpounderking]

have you done bloods yet? its crucial and hows your log? @quarterpounderking

Waiting on blood results currently. Haven't began a log because I haven't started my cycle just yet, but once all my compounds come in the mail I'll certainly begin one. I'm getting mixed responses for IGF, so I might not add it in.

Maybe I will and be a guinea pig and see if it worthwhile.

 

[LevButlerov]

Waiting on blood results currently. Haven't began a log because I haven't started my cycle just yet, but once all my compounds come in the mail I'll certainly begin one. I'm getting mixed responses for IGF, so I might not add it in.

Maybe I will and be a guinea pig and see if it worthwhile.

I think we need to get a log up for you before even bloods, we need to talk about training diet and supps, you have some of this prepped? @quarterpounderking

 

[quarterpounderking]

I think we need to get a log up for you before even bloods, we need to talk about training diet and supps, you have some of this prepped? @quarterpounderking

Yes, I'll make a full log sometime soon. Been hella busy recently tho. Thankfully my training and diet are still dialed in. Hopefully not much will change in those regards

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes, I'll make a full log sometime soon. Been hella busy recently tho. Thankfully my training and diet are still dialed in. Hopefully not much will change in those regards

please do we are waiting @quarterpounderking