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[biggamestop]

Triple filter gso.
2% ba
6% bb

took a bit to filter even with bottle top filter and hand pump. Gotta find a faster way to bottle it.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Triple filter gso.
2% ba
6% bb

took a bit to filter even with bottle top filter and hand pump. Gotta find a faster way to bottle it.

How much were you filtering? Was it warm or cold? How many psi did you keep the vacuum at ? It still takes a while it's more of a steady drip than a stream but much faster and easier than syringe filters


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[biggamestop]

100ml and It was slightly warm. Tried keeping at 10-15 psi. Was a slow drip.

 

[biggamestop]

 

[Cipp21]

Got some good tren on the way now!

For you old school brewers, what's your take on Fina conversions? I can get ahold of cartridges and I've been considering brewing some up to try out. I've read the results are unparalleled compared to normal UGL stuff.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

15 10ml vials and one 100ml jug that I'm thinking about slapping a bow on and tossing under the Christmas tree with my name on it this year


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[biggamestop]

Hardly any yellow tent to it. Must be from the mct?

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Hardly any yellow tent to it. Must be from the mct?

Mct is crystal clear honestly the only reason I added gso was to add a splash of color (I know it's stupid but for some reason I don't like clear gear) btw I just pinned 1ml in my pec w/a 29g slin pin and this stuff shoots like a wet dream


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[biggamestop]

Nice where u getting the oil from. Is it pre filtered?

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Nice where u getting the oil from. Is it pre filtered?

My oils are pre filtered I get most of them from med lab supply


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[wowstrongarms]

Why are y'all buying pre filtered or filtering it twice? If it fits through .2 then it's smaller than .2, nothing else is going to get caught(unless you use crazy high pressure the first time and manage to expand the membrane without tearing it). Just saying.

If you were filtering a lot(400+) then maybe using a .45 first would make things go a little quicker, but there are other ways to filter it faster than that if you are brewing that much.

I lurv my polycaps. Just did 2liters of test c.

 

[biggamestop]

I bought my oil already triple filter in a sealed vial.

 

[wowstrongarms]

I bought my oil already triple filter in a sealed vial.

But why? You've still gotta filter it after adding everything else

 

[biggamestop]

Cause I get it cheap and also use it for cutting from time to time.

 

[krazieone56]

But why? You've still gotta filter it after adding everything else

Also if you buy triple filtered or filtered carrier its cleaner. Meaning no chunks and floaties except maybe a few. When the carrier is dirty it can clog your and then your solution won't even filter all the way

KRAZIEONE

 

[biggamestop]

This is what I have. Its kind of a pain cause it in a sealed vial but it's filtered and sterile.

 

[krazieone56]

I've ordered from Tex supply. Cheap prices for sure

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Why are y'all buying pre filtered or filtering it twice? If it fits through .2 then it's smaller than .2, nothing else is going to get caught(unless you use crazy high pressure the first time and manage to expand the membrane without tearing it). Just saying.

If you were filtering a lot(400+) then maybe using a .45 first would make things go a little quicker, but there are other ways to filter it faster than that if you are brewing that much.

I lurv my polycaps. Just did 2liters of test c.

I would much rather buy filtered oil than save a few pennies and possibly clog a filter prematurely forcing me to use another filter (costing more than the savings from buying cheap oil) and losing a few more ml's of gear because I have to use two filters instead of one


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[biggamestop]

I would much rather buy filtered oil than save a few pennies and possibly clog a filter prematurely forcing me to use another filter (costing more than the savings from buying cheap oil) and losing a few more ml's of gear because I have to use two filters instead of one


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I agree with you. For me buying pre filtered carrier is a no brainer.

 

[wowstrongarms]

I agree with you. For me buy
ing pre filtered carrier is a no brainer.

Who are you buying from where that is even an issue? I never had that issue brewig up to 300-400ml through one filter.

 

[mnmsnowbeast]

ok who will make test suspension water base test? 100mg /per ml??

 

[krazieone56]

I make it all the time.

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

ok who will make test suspension water base test? 100mg /per ml??

There's someone who posts on this thread regularly that will most likely pm you I've made it as well and I currently have about 70ml or so but I'm pulling back on selling stuff quite a bit


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[bobsyouruncle]

I make it all the time.

KRAZIEONE

And here he is sorry bud I didn't see your post when I posted


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[biggamestop]

I make it all the time.

KRAZIEONE

Ya i have it. Good stuff

 

[biggamestop]

And I'm waiting to try some abombs from another one of my favorite Brewers here.

 

[krazieone56]

And here he is sorry bud I didn't see your post when I posted


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Ha ha. NP.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Ya i have it. Good stuff

TY. I'm glad u like it.

KRAZIEONE

 

[userbrah]

I make it all the time.

KRAZIEONE

I used 2ml preworkout today with 25mg aromasin 1 hour before.
Dead lifted just under 700lb.

 

[biggamestop]

I used 2ml preworkout today with 25mg aromasin 1 hour before.
Dead lifted just under 700lb.

hell ya man tha'ts sick.

 

[biggamestop]

Got labels made up.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Got labels made up.

Looks good


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[Loadcoil78]

Got labels made up.

Nice.......

 

[Cipp21]

Well tried my hand at the old fina conversion. Turned out VERY nicely, now I know for a fact I've got some good ass tren. Got 60ml filtered and another 20 immersed within the sludge. Need to pick up a few more whatmans to squeeze that last little bit out.

100mg/ml
2% BA
18% BB
30% EO
50% MCT

 

[biggamestop]

Nice man. Looks good.

 

[krazieone56]

Well tried my hand at the old fina conversion. Turned out VERY nicely, now I know for a fact I've got some good ass tren. Got 60ml filtered and another 20 immersed within the sludge. Need to pick up a few more whatmans to squeeze that last little bit out.

100mg/ml
2% BA
18% BB
30% EO
50% MCT

Looks like u got more than 60ml. Probly more like 75. Those vials even tho they say 30. 30ml stops a little lower than the rounded part so u got a good amount for sure. Looks good.

KRAZIEONE

 

[biggamestop]

Those are 20ml I think

 

[krazieone56]

That's what I meant. Sorry. But they hold a few ml more than 20

KRAZIEONE

 

[biggamestop]

Ya mine filled up lil under the radius on the vial.

 

[biggamestop]

I'll have to try the 100ml like u do.

 

[Cipp21]

Yea they're just a tiny bit over. I filter with a 10cc syringe and fill it as accurately as possible. I purge the filter with 1cc of oil and some air though so with that plus what's in the neck of the syringe I'm probably around ~4ml over the 60. That sludge is going to be a bitch...

Made the stuff without any heat whatsoever too.

100ml jugs are nice but I'd constantly be paranoid about the stopper breaking down from all the usage lol

 

[krazieone56]

Ya strain it thru a coffee filter first.

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Yea they're just a tiny bit over. I filter with a 10cc syringe and fill it as accurately as possible. I purge the filter with 1cc of oil and some air though so with that plus what's in the neck of the syringe I'm probably around ~4ml over the 60. That sludge is going to be a bitch...

Made the stuff without any heat whatsoever too.

100ml jugs are nice but I'd constantly be paranoid about the stopper breaking down from all the usage lol

I like to pull off of a 100ml with a 5cc cannon then I use that to backload 5 slin pins at a time


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[kfriesen]

Hey guys. I did some reading and was going to put an order in with Kevin, but looks like he isn't too legit. Anyone confirm this?

 

[J50441]

Hey guys. I did some reading and was going to put an order in with Kevin, but looks like he isn't too legit. Anyone confirm this?

Yea dont do that. Hes having serious quailty controll issues.

 

[Cipp21]

Ya strain it thru a coffee filter first.

KRAZIEONE

Any time I've ever strained anything through a coffee filter I just ended up with a mess and majority of solution absorbed into the coffee filter. Should only cost me about 2 whatmans to do the sludge. I managed to get just a bit over 10ml of sludge through before it stopped ha

 

[Cipp21]

Hey guys. I did some reading and was going to put an order in with Kevin, but looks like he isn't too legit. Anyone confirm this?

His test, M1T, and Winny have all been fine but my tren was completely bunk. Test is the ONLY thing I'll trust him with at this point. That being said your better off to keep searching

 

[J50441]

His test, M1T, and Winny have all been fine but my tren was completely bunk. Test is the ONLY thing I'll trust him with at this point. That being said your better off to keep searching

clear that box bro

 

[krazieone56]

Any time I've ever strained anything through a coffee filter I just ended up with a mess and majority of solution absorbed into the coffee filter. Should only cost me about 2 whatmans to do the sludge. I managed to get just a bit over 10ml of sludge through before it stopped ha

Cause u have to do it when its warm and tape the filter into a cup so it can drip. That or a paint filter from the paint store

KRAZIEONE

 

[J50441]

Does anyone have a good medlab alternative? Not a fan of the changes they made to their list. Or there TA

 

[homedepot20]

I'm in on this. For 5 years plus I only made my goods from raws

 

[melochai]

Okay, I have a question... and I know the answer (yes or no) doesn't mak a lot of difference in the finished product...but, I am just curious.

Let's take a look at Basskiller's calculator...

http://basskilleronline.com/steroid-...alculator.html

Now, if you notice under the calculator, there are a list of displacements, like this...

Testosterone Base - 1g Displaces 0.893mL
TestosteronePropionate - 1g Displaces 0.909mL
Testosterone enanthate - 1g Displaces 0.943mL
Testosterone cypionate - 1g Displaces 0.909mL
Testosterone decanoate - 1g Displaces 0.962mL
Testosterone Isocaproate - 1g Displaces 0.935mL
Testosterone Phenylpropionate - 1g Displaces 0.885mL
Trenbolone Acetate - 1g Displaces 0.848mL
Trenbolone enanthate- 1g Displaces 0.909mL
Nandrolone deconate- 1g Displaces 0.962mL
Masterone propionate - 1g Displaces 0.935mL

Now, take Testosterone Base for example, is the 0.893 the number that we should plug in for "Powder Weight" ? I know it doesn't make a huge difference but for the OCD brewers, please be kind(and answer the FKin' question!). Thanks!!

 

[Biotoxic]

Three decimal places, I am sorry but I can not do that. My scale must suck. J

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Yes that is how you should do it if you want to be exact but honestly if you leave it set to
.85 you'll be more than fine I don't know about you but I always overdose slightly anyway for instance the 100mg/ml prop I just made is actually 108mg/ml and there is no reason to be that exact think about it you are getting your powder from a Chinese supplier that has who knows what as far as procedures goes and there's a very good chance that your 100g of test base is closer to 80g test base with god knows what else mixed in (I'm assuming here of course but you get what I'm saying) so with that being said you most likely aren't starting out with 100% pure powder so what benefit is there to being overly anal with your powder weight?


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[melochai]

Not saying there is a benefit. I'm just curious if that was correct.


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[Biotoxic]

That is so true bob, my post was a bit of a joke, we have so many variables in all of our supplies.

I am sure those numbers are mathematical extrapolations, my joke was in poor taste, sorry it is one of those days. J

 

[krazieone56]

Three decimal places, I am sorry but I can not do that. My scale must suck. J

You don't have to use the scale to figure .962ml. Let's say u brew 10g of powder whose weight is .962 per gram. Your displacement is 9.62 ml. Then 3% ba is 3ml then 15% bb that 15ml. Then u add those three and subtract from 100ml that's 72.38ml of carrier. Make it 72 ml and ur good. Easy.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Oh also I think test base is .75. I think I read that somewhere I'd have to double check

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Oh also I think test base is .75. I think I read that somewhere I'd have to double check

KRAZIEONE

I'm pretty sure it's .893


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[krazieone56]

Could be. I just couldn't remember

KRAZIEONE

 

[melochai]

I'm just going off of what colochine added to basskiller's calculator.


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[The_Chemsit]

100mg sust 50mg tne 50mg tren no ester maybe toss in 50mg dbol?


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GenevaTech makes an injectible Sust/Dbol Mix.


Its 250mgs/ml. 125mg Test, 100 EQ, and injectable 25mg Dbol. It stings like hell because of all the Benzyl Benzoate, but its the single oat effective product I've ever used. Its the only steroid, that made me look like I was on steroids.

 

[The_Chemsit]

I'm hearing some guys are making test at 250 mg/ml with zero bb. I'm afraid to do that unless someone can convince me it's safe to do, and will stay suspended in the depo.

Depends which ester. Cyp will crash that way. However, It is possible to make some enanthate that way using EO and no BB.

 

[Z28blak]

It's possible with both actually and you can do up to a 400mg test with no bb and have zero pip


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[Z28blak]

Oh and no eo


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[wowstrongarms]

Oh and no eo


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As in you can make 400mg/ml test Cyp with no EO or BB? What carrier? No chance that'd hold with GSO or CSO. Maybe with something heavier though.

 

[Z28blak]

As in you can make 400mg/ml test Cyp with no EO or BB? What carrier? No chance that'd hold with GSO or CSO. Maybe with something heavier though.

It would need a blended oil with mct


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[Z28blak]

You can actually make a sust 1000mg/ml with no eo either


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[wowstrongarms]

It would need a blended oil with mct


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Never played with mct. Just picked up safflower to play with inject dbol and winny. Making it with with GSO ended up with way to much guaiacol to hold at 50mg.

 

[Z28blak]

I see yea those are a bitch


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[krazieone56]

Plus that shit hurts. Better to run as an oral anyway

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

I just made some test prop suspension for fun. I wonder if it would be a viable daily inject?

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

I just made some test prop suspension for fun. I wonder if it would be a viable daily inject?

KRAZIEONE

100mg/ml?


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[krazieone56]

100mg/ml?


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Ya

KRAZIEONE

 

[userbrah]

Lets find out.

 

[Brewster]

You can actually make a sust 1000mg/ml with no eo either


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What's the exact recipe for a mix dosed so high?

 

[Whittenator]

That's the question bud it takes an accurate scale and math you need to have a uniform volume I use 00caps basically you need to fill the exact same volume with both compounds to be used and find the weights of each individual powder that you intend on using and you need to figure out how much of each it will take to get all of your caps filled at the desired dose for example I used viagra and creatine monohydrate two caps of the viagra weighed 1.37g two caps of creatine weighed 1.67g he wanted 50mg viagra caps so you know you are using 5g to make 100 caps so you take your creatine weight and divide it by your viagra weight wich equals 1.2189781 and you multiply 5g by that number which comes to 6.0948905 but we will simplify that down to 6.095 now I have already capped viagra in size 4 caps and they take 127mg stuffed full so you can easily do 10g to 100 pills and get 100 pills at 100me ea so I know a little over 100mg of viagra will fit in a cap so it's safe to assume that 5g of viagra and 6.1g of creatine will fill 100caps completely and all should be dosed at 50mg or damn close


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What about if your making tablets? Nothing but the powder is needed correct?

 

[Z28blak]

What's the exact recipe for a mix dosed so high?

10g powder
.20 ba
1.20 bb
.50 oil


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[bobsyouruncle]

What about if your making tablets? Nothing but the powder is needed correct?

I haven't made them because I don't have a press but I believe you will still need enough filler to reach a certain volume and you definitely need a bonding agent in order to hold it together


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[Whittenator]

How do you guys go about testing the purity percentage?

 

[Z28blak]

I haven't made them because I don't have a press but I believe you will still need enough filler to reach a certain volume and you definitely need a bonding agent in order to hold it together


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That is all true


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[bobsyouruncle]

So i just made 10ml of anadrol/dbol suspension 100mg/60mg per ml it's pretty cool stuff it came out a nice light pink color anyone ever tried anything like this before? Remember this is water based


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[bobsyouruncle]

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[Z28blak]

So i just made 10ml of anadrol/dbol suspension 100mg/60mg per ml it's pretty cool stuff it came out a nice light pink color anyone ever tried anything like this before? Remember this is water based


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We had are AD200 100/100 mix oil solution worked out well


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[krazieone56]

In distilled water like a suspension it hits faster tho. Oil takes about an 1.5 hrs. This is like 10min

KRAZIEONE

 

[Z28blak]

In distilled water like a suspension it hits faster tho. Oil takes about an 1.5 hrs. This is like 10min

KRAZIEONE

That is very true.


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[userbrah]

Imo oil base no ester products by themselves are pointless.
No sense in using oil based TNE when water based goes in a slin pin hits you in 15-20 minutes.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Imo oil base no ester products by themselves are pointless.
No sense in using oil based TNE when water based goes in a slin pin hits you in 15-20 minutes.

Water based separates and will re crystallize much easier also they both will cause pip but it tends to be worse with water based products


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[Z28blak]

Imo oil base no ester products by themselves are pointless.
No sense in using oil based TNE when water based goes in a slin pin hits you in 15-20 minutes.

Oil base can go in a slin pin as well and it doesn't separate as easy. As "bob" said plus there both just as effective so "pointless" doubtful


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[krazieone56]

I think its more of a preference thing. Some like water based some like oil.

KRAZIEONE

 

[biggamestop]

I don't care for water based to much.

 

[krazieone56]

I don't care for water based to much.

If made right. They r legit.

KRAZIEONE

 

[BuryMeBig]

We had are AD200 100/100 mix oil solution worked out well


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Hell yea I bet it did, i'd love to hit that

Imo oil base no ester products by themselves are pointless.
No sense in using oil based TNE when water based goes in a slin pin hits you in 15-20 minutes.

In oil any day over that ^ shit... I shoot TNE in oil is exactly what DOES glide through slins like butter but alright lol... enjoy

 

[BuryMeBig]

Water based separates and will re crystallize much easier also they both will cause pip but it tends to be worse with water based products


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much easier? lol one will one wont, and ive hit TNE solutions many times in oil and water, oil has always been pip free compared to water... look at your solution bro its obviously already seperated of course, and if given more time you'll have the crystals by now as well... but cool thats just me but what do I know... bwhaha cheers enjoy.

 

[krazieone56]

much easier? lol one will one wont, and ive hit TNE solutions many times in oil and water, oil has always been pip free compared to water... look at your solution bro its obviously already seperated of course, and if given more time you'll have the crystals by now as well... but cool thats just me but what do I know... bwhaha cheers enjoy.

You obviously don't know shit about suspensions. They separate when sitting that's why you shake prior to drawing liquid. And if made correctly suspensions can be pip free. Maybe u were just getting shit suspensions

KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

much easier? lol one will one wont, and ive hit TNE solutions many times in oil and water, oil has always been pip free compared to water... look at your solution bro its obviously already seperated of course, and if given more time you'll have the crystals by now as well... but cool thats just me but what do I know... bwhaha cheers enjoy.

Tne will crash in oil much easier than longer esters maybe seperate wasn't the best word anyway I'll put money down saying that the suspension I am showing here. Will not crystallize with more time as you're saying it will and to your last question "but what do I know?" I'm pretty sure the answer doesn't include much about suspensions


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[BuryMeBig]

You obviously don't know shit about suspensions. They separate when sitting that's why you shake prior to drawing liquid. And if made correctly suspensions can be pip free. Maybe u were just getting shit suspensions

KRAZIEONE

No shit sherlock! I never made it a point that "bobs" suspension is the only one that separate's did I? Its a water based suspension, the hormone will always separate from water and solvent, but let me say it again and spell it out for you, "bro its OBVIOUSLY already separated OF COURSE, and if given more time you'll have the crystals by now as well..."
so whats that mean? THAT YES, THEY ARE EXPECTED TO.... mine will, bobs will, not sure about yours though, but THAT WASNT MY POINT, point is OIL based SOLUTIONS that hold have always been pip free for me but maybe your just getting shit solutions... and your comment in regards to the gear I get.. haha yea maybe... very doubtful though bud and perhaps you just dont have much experience with solutions so stand biased with your opinion.. Anyhow, not going to waste my time arguing about it, your entitled to your own opinion, which I may disagree with but wont go as far yo say you "obviously dont know shit" because I disagree with you, but if you did you'd prob know that TNE solution is one of the most fast acting test's there is, and even more so then suspension, but thats just my "professional" opinion, but I wont tell you why but rather hear you tell everyone why its not in that case... anyhow cheers done with it, enjoy bud.

 

[BuryMeBig]

Tne will crash in oil much easier than longer esters maybe seperate wasn't the best word anyway I'll put money down saying that the suspension I am showing here. Will not crystallize with more time as you're saying it will and to your last question "but what do I know?" I'm pretty sure the answer doesn't include much about suspensions


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Hahaha, seems like you already know who I am though huh! haha anyhow cool let me know how it turns out bro!

 

[krazieone56]

No shit sherlock! I never made it a point that "bobs" suspension is the only one that separate's did I? Its a water based suspension, the hormone will always separate from water and solvent, but let me say it again and spell it out for you, "bro its OBVIOUSLY already separated OF COURSE, and if given more time you'll have the crystals by now as well..."
so whats that mean? THAT YES, THEY ARE EXPECTED TO.... mine will, bobs will, not sure about yours though, but THAT WASNT MY POINT, point is OIL based SOLUTIONS that hold have always been pip free for me but maybe your just getting shit solutions... and your comment in regards to the gear I get.. haha yea maybe... very doubtful though bud and perhaps you just dont have much experience with solutions so stand biased with your opinion.. Anyhow, not going to waste my time arguing about it, your entitled to your own opinion, which I may disagree with but wont go as far yo say you "obviously dont know shit" because I disagree with you, but if you did you'd prob know that TNE solution is one of the most fast acting test's there is, and even more so then suspension, but thats just my "professional" opinion, but I wont tell you why but rather hear you tell everyone why its not in that case... anyhow cheers done with it, enjoy bud.

Sigh.....

KRAZIEONE

 

[BuryMeBig]

Tne will crash in oil much easier than longer esters maybe seperate wasn't the best word anyway


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What? were talking about TNE here, and separate yea... the test will obviously separate from the solvent and water solution, it doesnt matter what way its said, my point is understood, but "Tne will crash in oil much easier then longer esters..." great, and.....?