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412Tren Ace.webp50g.webpFuck yeah Bob! What did you use as your filler? We need some other Bros to post up some picks....

I dont have anything that current but here is a little Tren Ace from a brew.
 
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bobsyouruncle said:
I was going to use dextrose but I had a big fat sack of creatine mono next to my capping shit and figured why not?


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Interesting, Everything I read on capping seemed like a pain in the ass. I always used basic liquids. Much less of a hassle?
 
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Interesting, Everything I read on capping seemed like a pain in the ass. I always used basic liquids. Much less of a hassle?
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Meh everyone makes it sound like a big pain in the ass but in reality once you've invested in everything it's not that big of a deal I started with 00 caps and a capping machine that only does 24 at a crack making my own supplements I got sick of paying outrageous prices at gnc and even online stores and the majority of what they sell is a "proprietary blend" and because they call it that they don't have to disclose the actual amount of any given compound once I learned that and I read a lot of places that they may include a certain compound but not enough of it to actually do anything for you I decided I would research how much of any given compound it takes to yield results and I would make my own supplements containing at least the minimum amount of any given compound to yield desired results

And as far as liquid suspensions I use them a lot but mainly just as a sample to see how potent any given compound is so I know exactly how I want to dose it when capping


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bobsyouruncle said:
Meh everyone makes it sound like a big pain in the ass but in reality once you've invested in everything it's not that big of a deal I started with 00 caps and a capping machine that only does 24 at a crack making my own supplements I got sick of paying outrageous prices at gnc and even online stores and the majority of what they sell is a "proprietary blend" and because they call it that they don't have to disclose the actual amount of any given compound once I learned that and I read a lot of places that they may include a certain compound but not enough of it to actually do anything for you I decided I would research how much of any given compound it takes to yield results and I would make my own supplements containing at least the minimum amount of any given compound to yield desired results

And as far as liquid suspensions I use them a lot but mainly just as a sample to see how potent any given compound is so I know exactly how I want to dose it when capping


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Yes, I'd much rather have caps than liquid due to the long term stability, plus the obvious ease. I'd also love to start capping my own supps as I buy the powders in bulk now. If you don't mind me asking, how much would you estimate it cost you to go turn key capping?
And if you want to post links to where you got the supplies (besides gear lol), by all means. Looks like you're the home brew man of evo. Carry on!
 
bobsyouruncle said:
I was going to use dextrose but I had a big fat sack of creatine mono next to my capping shit and figured why not?


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I'd think creatine would work just fine. I wouldn't use it for contest prep supps as I want to be able to control everything, but any other time, why not! Good stuff!
Btw, how do you mix the raws with fillers to ensure uniform doses? That's the main reason I've gone the liquid route. Looks like you're converting an old dog like me over to caps.
 
devildog said:
I'd think creatine would work just fine. I wouldn't use it for contest prep supps as I want to be able to control everything, but any other time, why not! Good stuff!
Btw, how do you mix the raws with fillers to ensure uniform doses? That's the main reason I've gone the liquid route. Looks like you're converting an old dog like me over to caps.
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That's the question bud it takes an accurate scale and math you need to have a uniform volume I use 00caps basically you need to fill the exact same volume with both compounds to be used and find the weights of each individual powder that you intend on using and you need to figure out how much of each it will take to get all of your caps filled at the desired dose for example I used viagra and creatine monohydrate two caps of the viagra weighed 1.37g two caps of creatine weighed 1.67g he wanted 50mg viagra caps so you know you are using 5g to make 100 caps so you take your creatine weight and divide it by your viagra weight wich equals 1.2189781 and you multiply 5g by that number which comes to 6.0948905 but we will simplify that down to 6.095 now I have already capped viagra in size 4 caps and they take 127mg stuffed full so you can easily do 10g to 100 pills and get 100 pills at 100me ea so I know a little over 100mg of viagra will fit in a cap so it's safe to assume that 5g of viagra and 6.1g of creatine will fill 100caps completely and all should be dosed at 50mg or damn close


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devildog said:
I'd think creatine would work just fine. I wouldn't use it for contest prep supps as I want to be able to control everything, but any other time, why not! Good stuff!
Btw, how do you mix the raws with fillers to ensure uniform doses? That's the main reason I've gone the liquid route. Looks like you're converting an old dog like me over to caps.
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And I doubt that .06g of creatine would hurt your contest prep I understand not wanting to hold water but consider this if you want any results from creatine you should be taking 5g DAILY do you think .06 g is going to make you hold any notable amount of water?


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bobsyouruncle said:
That's the question bud it takes an accurate scale and math you need to have a uniform volume I use 00caps basically you need to fill the exact same volume with both compounds to be used and find the weights of each individual powder that you intend on using and you need to figure out how much of each it will take to get all of your caps filled at the desired dose for example I used viagra and creatine monohydrate two caps of the viagra weighed 1.37g two caps of creatine weighed 1.67g he wanted 50mg viagra caps so you know you are using 5g to make 100 caps so you take your creatine weight and divide it by your viagra weight wich equals 1.2189781 and you multiply 5g by that number which comes to 6.0948905 but we will simplify that down to 6.095 now I have already capped viagra in size 4 caps and they take 127mg stuffed full so you can easily do 10g to 100 pills and get 100 pills at 100me ea so I know a little over 100mg of viagra will fit in a cap so it's safe to assume that 5g of viagra and 6.1g of creatine will fill 100caps completely and all should be dosed at 50mg or damn close


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This is over my head. I can give contest prep advice to trade though. Lol! In all seriousness, this can be learned rather quickly, but being new to it, I'll want to know it in and out as that's just me... Btw, Viagra and creatine? You shouldn't be "hard" to locate in the gym. Especially if you observe a hottie doing dumbbell stiff leg deads.:D LOL!
Good stuff bro! This thread will ultimately be the largest one here, no question.
 
devildog said:
This is over my head. I can give contest prep advice to trade though. Lol! In all seriousness, this can be learned rather quickly, but being new to it, I'll want to know it in and out as that's just me... Btw, Viagra and creatine? You shouldn't be "hard" to locate in the gym. Especially if you observe a hottie doing dumbbell stiff leg deads.:D LOL!
Good stuff bro! This thread will ultimately be the largest one here, no question.
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What's funny is I now use viagra in high doses pre workout every now and then and there is a noticeable difference I can last a few more reps per set and if I try to burn myself completely out after a good workout with a ton of lightweight stuff I can go forever I'll start lifting with a dick full of blood but not erect and once I start lifting I get soft it's like the blood leaves my dick and goes where its needed however yesterday I took a large dose and once I was home and showered my dick wouldent go down it wasn't erect but it was as big as it could possibly be while hanging I was wearing sweatpants and a neighbor lady was over I kept catching her staring at my package


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I usually pour bags that size out on my table, use a credit card to form nice lines, then start snorting it. Oh yes, you should see what I do in the gym after that! LOL!!!!!:D
Nice stuff bro. You have any pics of test e, primo, and halotestin?
 
Narko514 said:
Test P is 5/15 ba/bb ratio. 100mg/ml in EO.
Tren A is 5% ba. 100mg/ml in usp grapeseed

Going to try it out and see how 5% works with the tren. I may drop down to 3% next time.
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I use 3% BA as a default and like it. I think you will see it wont make a noticeable difference going down.
 
krazieone56 said:
Well my stuff showed up in the mail. Gonna be making it here soon. I'll post a pic when's its done.

KRAZIEONE
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Good I'm hoping this thread takes off we have good brothers here with the same interests and great powder suppliers I understand brewing isn't for everyone but we owe it to our members to show them they can get into this if they want to and they don't need to be intimidated


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bobsyouruncle said:
Good I'm hoping this thread takes off we have good brothers here with the same interests and great powder suppliers I understand brewing isn't for everyone but we owe it to our members to show them they can get into this if they want to and they don't need to be intimidated


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I agree with you a 100%. A lot of Bros helped me when I was learning and it is nice to give back.
 
Well first off the eq is liquid form which I know eq powder is liquid because it has a low melting point and it has a sweet smell to it and a golden color.

KRAZIEONE
 
BAM!!! that's how its done. 500mg/ml. Test cyp eq blend. Ye yah.

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300mg cyp 200mg eq. Per ml. Yes it went smooth I have done it a few times. So once you try a few times you get smoother with your procedures and quicker at what you are trying to do. The hardest part really is filtering it. Very tiring. I need one of those pneumatic ones.

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krazieone56 said:
300mg cyp 200mg eq. Per ml. Yes it went smooth I have done it a few times. So once you try a few times you get smoother with your procedures and quicker at what you are trying to do. The hardest part really is filtering it. Very tiring. I need one of those pneumatic ones.

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That is amazing! Are you going to franchise?! Lol. I would love to try that!

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I am very tempted. What about test ctp and primo? Since Primo is so heavy....?

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If you end up making it I would be your rabbit. I would like the simicity of test cyp and primo. Saayyyy.... 50mg/ml of test cyp and 100mg/ml or Primo. To allow for daily pinning and more stable blood levels.

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True true. What I'm using right now is sust tren and test no ester all combined and I inject daily. So it is doable for sure.

Are u not wanting to brew yourself? Its very cost effective

KRAZIEONE
 
Did a look little research. In thinking primo, tren ace, test no ester. That's a daily injection that would light you up.

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
True true. What I'm using right now is sust tren and test no ester all combined and I inject daily. So it is doable for sure.

Are u not wanting to brew yourself? Its very cost effective

KRAZIEONE
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I don't have the first bit of knowledge for home brewing. I'll start to look into it though. As far as powders, what's a good source?

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There are a couple here. I believe there is one already active and n this thread.

As far as knowledge if you can follow a cake recipe you can brew gear. Well and be very clean and diligent

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
300mg cyp 200mg eq. Per ml. Yes it went smooth I have done it a few times. So once you try a few times you get smoother with your procedures and quicker at what you are trying to do. The hardest part really is filtering it. Very tiring. I need one of those pneumatic ones.

KRAZIEONE
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The funny part is it's actually easy. Big pharma breaks it off in the American consumer. Literally!
 
I just need to figure out the calculations, all the utilities used to brew, the process, filtering, etc. I have zero knowledge concerning home brewinf.

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DD I'm doing a tren no ester test no ester sust eq blend soon. That would be rocket fuel like we talked about a few days ago. I already ordered the raws for it.

KRAZIEONE
 
Most of the RAW sources I find are in China. Does anyone here have good experience in dealing with Chinese sources?
 
krazieone56 said:
DD I'm doing a tren no ester test no ester sust eq blend soon. That would be rocket fuel like we talked about a few days ago. I already ordered the raws for it.

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I can imagine the tren and test no ester would be a VERY good pre workout injection! Imagine this:

1. You've already got a steady blood plasma level of androgens via longer ester injections, which is good.
2. Now imagine a shot of nitrous oxide called test and tren no ester pre workout!
3. Add 1+2 above, then combine intense training, impeccable diet, and good sleep...

WOW!!
 
devildog said:
What are you using the xylocaine for? I know a little about this stuff. Even have a 30 ml vial. Looks like you've got someone medical in your house. Lol! That's always a good thing.
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Its not zylocaine. The big one is marcaine. Its a nerve blocker that lasts about a day or so. The middle is lidocaine obviously a short term nerve blocker. And the little one is kenelog. Aka cortisone. My gf is a medical asst for a sports medicine Dr. Who is oddly my Dr lol. And she grabbed the three components for me for cortisone injections. I have had one in my shoulder elbow and knee. So I keep that around for injuries. Because to get one at the Dr its like $300. Now free lol

KRAZIEONE
 
Anyone ever played around with test prop, mast prop, tren ace recipes? From looking around it seems like 75 of each may be doable with EO. Maybe bumping to 100 of each with guaiacol
 
Ur gonna wanna run more tren than anything else. Do like 100 tren 75 mast and 25 prop in a 200mg/ml blend. Should work fine. And make it an ed injection.

KRAZIEONE
 
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Robo has a 100/100/100 ace/prop/mastp blend that holds easily with GSO and 18% BB 2% BA
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Really? I see so much conflicting on these higher dose blends. I guess the only thing to do is try it yourself right? Whats the worse case scenario? I add more EO til it holds? No biggie
 
Heya fellas. Been lurking. Would like to ask if someone could do a "Glossary" post for those of us literally taking notes. I'm not using gear yet, but when I do I'd like to understand the making of what I eat, let alone may stab into myself. So far, I know EO=Ethyl Oleate BB=Benzyl Benzoate But BA= ? And PEG, I'm assuming is Polyethylene Glycol. But what I've read about PEG is there are many formulations, from being used in solutions requiring viscosity, to creams like Cortisone etc... So, what form of PEG exactly would you use for homebrewing?

Anyway, bros- I been dieting and doing cardio for a month and lost 10 pounds. My July deadline to kickoff the SARMS triple stack is looking like a good projection. Would it be advisable to try GW and S4 now, just with doing a beginner weight routine and cardio? I'm basically rehabbing my whole body, but particularly shoulders and knees. Squats hurt like hell even with 0 weight when I'm in the "down" position. Standing up doesn't hurt them, just that pause before rising.

Shit, that's another post entirely, sorry. So if someone has the time, a home brewing Glossary/acronym listing would be useful here for those of us playing catchup. Thanks bros Chive On.
 
OK two things. And I mean this nicely. This is a thread for home brewing and discussions about how to do that and what to do results etc. You should start a thread for this. That being said , it seems like you are having issues with health. When is the last time u had a physical to see what's up with your body joints etc.

KRAZIEONE
 
Got to pay for all kinds of things for this upcoming summer, but I will be putting some funds away to run a batch of test. This thread has been good reading please keep it going. What’s the best sterile technique you use? How do you prep you’re work area before starting the brew process? How do you avoid mistakes so you maximize your finished product with minimal waste?
 
krazieone56 said:
OK two things. And I mean this nicely. This is a thread for home brewing and discussions about how to do that and what to do results etc. You should start a thread for this. That being said , it seems like you are having issues with health. When is the last time u had a physical to see what's up with your body joints etc.

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Krazy- I said that in my own post. My original and ending question were the same. Can someone post a home brewing glossary or list of terms and acronyms because I don't know what most of them mean. I looked up PEG for example, and there are apparently thousands of uses for it because it comes in all kinds of forms. So if someone made a post in this thread with BA, BB, EO, and PEG and all the other ones I haven't come across yet, I would know exactly what they mean when they say "Using PEG for the solution..." No disrespect intended at all with this response, people may not give a shit that I lost 10 pounds working out since I became a member and got motivated by the bros here. I just said it as an offhand comment and it was aside from my question directly related to the thread.

Here is how my post ended: Shit, that's another post entirely, sorry. So if someone has the time, a home brewing Glossary/acronym listing would be useful here for those of us playing catchup. Thanks bros Chive On.

If you'd like, I will delete it or edit it.
 
Nah you are all good just saying the other questions make a new thread and peeps will help you. As far as a glossary that's a damn good idea. I will work on that one.

KRAZIEONE
 
This thread keeps moving along well. I'd personally like to see more recipes, techniques, pics, and reviews on powder sources.
 
devildog said:
This thread keeps moving along well. I'd personally like to see more recipes, techniques, pics, and reviews on powder sources.
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I'm not sure if we want to openly post about powder sources but if anyone wants to pm me I'll give you my honest opinion and review of my supplier


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I'm not sure if we want to openly post about powder sources but if anyone wants to pm me I'll give you my honest opinion and review of my supplier


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I should retract my post, and say I shouldn't have posted that one. Lol!
 
Here's a copy and paste from a site many guys seem to like:

OILS:

Testosterone Enanthate
250mg/ml - 100ml
25 gram Testosterone Ethanate powder (18.75ml)
2ml BA (2%)
10ml BB (10%)
69.25ml Oil



NPP
200mg /mL - 20ml
NPP powder - 4 Grams
100% EO - 12.6mL
2%BA - 0.4mL
20%BB - 4mL



Testosterone Propionate
100mg/ml - 100ml
10 gram Testosterone Propionate powder (7.5ml)
2ml BA (2%)
20ml BB (20%)
70.5ml Oil



Tren Acetate
100mg/ml - 100ml
10 gram Trenbolone Acetate powder (7.5ml)
2ml BA (2%)
20ml BB (20%)
70.5ml Oil



Masteron
100mg/ml - 250ml
25 gram masteron Propionate (20ml)
5ml BA (2%)
50ml BB (20%)
175ml Oil



Equipoise
100mg/ml - 100ml
10g Boldenone Acetate powder (7.5ml)
18% BB 18ml
2% BA 2ml
72.5ml Oil



Methenolone enanthate
250ml for 100mg/ml
25 grams Methenolone enanthate
176.25 ml Grapeseed Oil
5ml benzyl alcohol = 2%
50ml benzyl benzoate = 20%



Deca-Durabolin
250mg/ml - 250ml
Durabolin powder ： 50g (46.8ml)
Grapeseed oil: 124.4ml
BA 3.75ml (3%)
BB 75ml (15%)



Recipe for Sustanon 250mg/ml
100ml @ 250mg/ml:-
-71.25ml Grapeseed oil
-2.5ml BA (2.5%)
-7.5ml BB (7.5%)
-3g Testosterone Propionate
-6g Testosterone Phenylprop
-6g Testosterone Isocaproate
-10g Testosterone Decanoate
 
Here's another copy and paste (no I usually don't do much copy and paste, as I thought others loved reading my bullshit. LOL!)

Oral Liquids:

Anadrol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxymetholone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Anavar:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Armidex:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Anastrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Clomid:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 600
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Dianabol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder you will need:
19 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
No PEG needed. Follow the no PEG recipe.

Femara:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of letrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Nolvadex:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 600
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Proviron:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Mesterolone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Winstrol:
Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Stanzolol you will need:
7.8 ml's of PEG 300
31.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
 
More c&p:

Solutions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol

Step 1. Prepare a hot water bath. Boil water in microwave or on a pot. Once boiling starts remove from heat.

Step 2. Place PEG and powder in beaker.

Step 3. Place the beaker deep enough in to the water so that the hot water is level with the PEG and powder. Gently swirl or stir with a stir rod until solution is clear. Reheat water as needed.

Step 4. Allow PEG to cool some. Then add in your 190 proof alcohol. You don't have to do this drop by drop but don't just dump it in. Pour it in slowly.

Step 5. Stir or gently shake until mixed.



For recipes that do not require PEG.

1. Mix powder and 190 proof alcohol.

2. Stir with stir rod or shake. Most powders that do not require PEG will disolve no problem. If heat is needed follow the instructions for heating powders that use PEG
 
Here's one I'm about to do myself. Again, it's a copy and paste:

Injectable Winstrol Suspension

How to make Winstrol Suspension @ 100mg/mL X 20mL in water.

-2 grams stanozolol powder X 0.75 displacement volume = 1.5mL
-24% BB = 4.8mL
-3% BA = 0.6mL
- 3% Polysorbate 80 = 0.6mL
-DISTILLED Water (ONLY use Distilled Water!) 12.5mL

Procedures:
-Combine stanozolol powder, BA, BB, PS80 and heat until clear while swirling.
-Filter slowly with a Sterile 0.22um Syringe Filter directly into a Sterile Vial.
- Filter the distilled water with a new Sterile 0.22um Syringe filter into the vial - Keep swirling the vial as you filter in the distilled water.
-Vigorously shake the Winstrol in the vial for a few minutes

Complete! You now have Winny @ 100mg/mL X 20mL.

NOTE: your final Winny solution will look foamy or airy. After you shake the hell out of it, let it sit untouched for 3 days. You will see it settle out with the water on top as usual. This will be very micronized and settling out will take days, so do not be concerned.

This will produce the standard PIP of Winstrol found in Underground Labs, it is not totally painfree - but not painful.
 
Last c&p

Blends:


Testosterone 600mg/mL Blend @ 20mL

Testosterone Enathate powder - 12g (displaces approx. 10.2ml ~ 51% total volume)
3%BA – 0.6mL
10%BB – 2mL
25%EO – 5mL
11% Oil – 2.2mL



Tren E 125mg / Mast E 125mg / Test E 125mg
Blend of 375mg/ml

10ml conversion

TrenE 1.25g (1.06ml)
MastE 1.25g (1.06ml)
TestE 1.25g (1.06ml)
3%BA (0.3ml)
30%BB (3ml)
Oil (3.6ml)

Tren E 250mg / Mast E 250mg
Blend of 500mg/ml

10ml conversion

TrenE 2.5g (2.125ml)
MastE 2.5g (2.125ml)
3%BA (0.3ml)
30%BB (3ml)
EO (1.5ml)
Oil (1ml)
 
I should have added this one at the very beginning. Oh well..

Here's how to scale recipes:-

25 gram Testosterone Ethanate powder (18.75ml)
2ml BA (2%)
10ml BB (10%)
69.25ml Oil

25g Powder is used, we want only 2.5g to be used, 25/2.5 = 10. Therefore we want 10x less than the amounts in the above recipe:--

25g Test E/10 = 2.5g used
2ml BA/10 = 0.2ml BA used
10m BB/10 = 1ml BB used
69.25 Oil/10 = 6.93 Oil used

The above is the recipe you need for 10ml @ 250mg/ml for Test E.

______ reccomend all new recipes to be trialled with a 10ml batch. Use the above method to create a suitable recipe.
 
krazieone56 said:
Lol you become a VIP and ur gonna lose your mind and say crazy things ....jk

KRAZIEONE
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I'm 41, single and raising a 16 year old Son who's bigger than me, and has his own ideas like I did at that age. However, he's supposed to be 6'4" and I don't know where his genetics came from as I'm 5'11" and his mother was 5'2" His wrists are damned near twice as big as mine. If he decides to go bodybuilding, most competitors will want to pick a new sport as he'd make Lou Ferrigno look like a baby hulk. Lol!
 
The above source is in China, and can't be touched since he's there and not here. Isn't it sad that a COMMUNIST country has the powder sources, and a "free" country wants to put us in jail for our sport? Blows my mind! This is why I WILL be voting for Rand Paul for whatever President in 2016. Sorry about the politics. Let's stay on topic.
 
krazieone56 said:
So that's a place you can buy and get recipes too? That's pretty trick. Is that where you get your raws?

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I have in the past. And yes, they're g2g. There are better options available if you look around here. I don't like going international these days in our land of no freedom, in what people say is a "free country..."
 
Ya. I actually have a guy I use. Was reffered to from here actually. He assumes all risk. He sends it from China to his guy here who then forwards it to the customer. Total anonymity.

KRAZIEONE
 
Hey bros,
Just out of curiosity for you other vets,
Who has ever messed up a batch? I have never but it always sits in the back of my mind. Also anyone ever try some homemade primo A? Heard pip can be crazy.
Thanks
 
Man I want to homebrew! Lol I have a some homebrewed stuff from my friend on here and man it's smooth. I like the fact I know what oils are used and how I can ask for mixes lol

Now only if I brewed my own
 
The only way you can mess up a batch in the terms I think you mean is to try to make it too potent and it crashes. Meaning turns back into crystal form. But that can always be fixed by adding some products to make sure it holds but then you would have to redo your math so that you know what the mg/ml value would be after fixing it

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
The only way you can mess up a batch in the terms I think you mean is to try to make it too potent and it crashes. Meaning turns back into crystal form. But that can always be fixed by adding some products to make sure it holds but then you would have to redo your math so that you know what the mg/ml value would be after fixing it

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Not a fan of high dosed stuff so crashing is no issue. I have heard of other guys messing up by letting things get too hot.
But I was referring to mostly sterilization.
 
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