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Hi this is my first log i am planning to start my fiest cycle in the next couple of weeks

Stats
18 male
180lbs
12-14% bf

Been working out for 3 years and have been interested and researching peds since then i believe i have pretty good understanding about them I started at 110lbs have made significant strength and size gains ex 315 bench at 17 185lbs i dont really squat or deadlift at the moment at 15 I could squat 255 for 2 at 145lbs deadlift 365lbs at 145lbs earlier this year i got really sick for about 4-5 weeks lost 15-20lbs and I pretty lost a years worth of progress the past 4-5 months ive been working on getting my strength and weight back and getting my CNS comfortable with heavy weight again

Cycle
350 test cyp a week (will adjust if needed) 12 weeks
22.5mg mk677 ED 20 weeks

Supplements
Berberine
Potassium
Chromium picolinate
Magnesium
NAC
Hawthorne berry
Vitamin d3 k2
Zinc
Omega 3
P5P


Ancillary
Aromasin 12.5 (if needed will most likely start at 6.25 im worried about crashing my estrogen but also dont want gyno)
I dont know if it should get telmisartan as I doubt i would have bp issues on only 350 test
Same goes for RU58841 I very much doubt I would need it

Pct
Hcg 250iu EOD with the last 4 weeks of my cycle
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10/10

Diet
I am going to try to stick these macros as much as I can
4.2k calories
250g protein
500g carbs
130g fat

I am using mk677 for mainly the hunger I have a big problem with eating i have to pretty much force feed myself and recently it has been getting worse and im tired of throwing up and having to eat again or eat my own vomit ik gross tmi but you gotta do what you gotta do

Goals
I would like to get up 195-200+ at the end of the 12 weeks want to stay relatively lean and really push some heavy weight currently can still only hit 315 for 1 on bench would like that go up to 3-5 reps (really want that 405 bench) and I will most likely start doing my other compound lifts again and get those number up too

Questions
I have a read a lot of mixed views on hcg for pct while i know it only mimics LH and fsh but if I time it right with when the testosterone half lives go out so when I start my pct the testosterone and hcg will be out of my body so nolva can actually work wouldn't there still be positives and a faster recovery time?

When to start pct for specificly test cyp I have heard 14 days after last injection and ive heard 21-27 days I am a little confused about that

Also I accidentally ordered some ostarine since this is my first cycle obviously the standard is test only but since I jave it now should I use it on my test cycle or save it for another time

Needles
I am planning on using 25g 1 inch but I have heard 27g 1inch can also work

Any other possible supplements or things to look fo or if I missed anything
Thanks look forward to your replies

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Hi this is my first log i am planning to start my fiest cycle in the next couple of weeks

Stats
18 male
180lbs
12-14% bf

Been working out for 3 years and have been interested and researching peds since then i believe i have pretty good understanding about them I started at 110lbs have made significant strength and size gains ex 315 bench at 17 185lbs i dont really squat or deadlift at the moment at 15 I could squat 255 for 2 at 145lbs deadlift 365lbs at 145lbs earlier this year i got really sick for about 4-5 weeks lost 15-20lbs and I pretty lost a years worth of progress the past 4-5 months ive been working on getting my strength and weight back and getting my CNS comfortable with heavy weight again

Cycle
350 test cyp a week (will adjust if needed) 12 weeks
22.5mg mk677 ED 20 weeks

Supplements
Berberine
Potassium
Chromium picolinate
Magnesium
NAC
Hawthorne berry
Vitamin d3 k2
Zinc
Omega 3
P5P


Ancillary
Aromasin 12.5 (if needed will most likely start at 6.25 im worried about crashing my estrogen but also dont want gyno)
I dont know if it should get telmisartan as I doubt i would have bp issues on only 350 test
Same goes for RU58841 I very much doubt I would need it

Pct
Hcg 250iu EOD with the last 4 weeks of my cycle
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10/10

Diet
I am going to try to stick these macros as much as I can
4.2k calories
250g protein
500g carbs
130g fat

I am using mk677 for mainly the hunger I have a big problem with eating i have to pretty much force feed myself and recently it has been getting worse and im tired of throwing up and having to eat again or eat my own vomit ik gross tmi but you gotta do what you gotta do

Goals
I would like to get up 195-200+ at the end of the 12 weeks want to stay relatively lean and really push some heavy weight currently can still only hit 315 for 1 on bench would like that go up to 3-5 reps (really want that 405 bench) and I will most likely start doing my other compound lifts again and get those number up too

Questions
I have a read a lot of mixed views on hcg for pct while i know it only mimics LH and fsh but if I time it right with when the testosterone half lives go out so when I start my pct the testosterone and hcg will be out of my body so nolva can actually work wouldn't there still be positives and a faster recovery time?

When to start pct for specificly test cyp I have heard 14 days after last injection and ive heard 21-27 days I am a little confused about that

Also I accidentally ordered some ostarine since this is my first cycle obviously the standard is test only but since I jave it now should I use it on my test cycle or save it for another time

Needles
I am planning on using 25g 1 inch but I have heard 27g 1inch can also work

Any other possible supplements or things to look fo or if I missed anything
Thanks look forward to your replies

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Welcome to EVO brother!
I'll report this to the mod queue to see what we can do to coach you along but due to your age we can't condone the use of PED's.

You are strong and a specimen for your age bro! You have a great base physique and a great plan I really like all the work you put into this first log post and it hasn't gone unnoticed. Leave this with me.

Also I accidentally ordered some ostarine since this is my first cycle obviously the standard is test only but since I jave it now should I use it on my test cycle or save it for another time
Hold off on anything for the moment until we can decide the best way to coach you through this.
 
Welcome to EVO brother!
I'll report this to the mod queue to see what we can do to coach you along but due to your age we can't condone the use of PED's.

You are strong and a specimen for your age bro! You have a great base physique and a great plan I really like all the work you put into this first log post and it hasn't gone unnoticed. Leave this with me.


Hold off on anything for the moment until we can decide the best way to coach you through this.
Thank you I appreciate the compliment and it is not a big difference but I did mistype I am 19 not 18 and I do understand I am still really young but as naive as it may sound my dream is to be become a pro and I would really appreciate to be allowed to continue posting as i would like to have a log aswell get feedback advice harm reduction etc

And not that matters but to put into perspective I ahve discussed this with my family and ofc they they dont condone steriods and would rather have me not hop on but they fully trust me and support me and respect my decision

As i said I have been researching AAS for about 3 years now I completely understand what I am doing to my body and side effects and possible life changing consequences and ofc harm reduction comes first

for me personally the pros outweigh the cons and i am ok with possible consequences and i truly believe i am not your average "teenager" that doesn't think this stuff through doesn't know what they are doing and just end up fucking themselves up i believe i am very dialed in with my diet and training my diet used to be a lot better before I was dealing with these stomach issue but nonetheless I still hit my goals
 
Thank you I appreciate the compliment and it is not a big difference but I did mistype I am 19 not 18 and I do understand I am still really young but as naive as it may sound my dream is to be become a pro and I would really appreciate to be allowed to continue posting as i would like to have a log aswell get feedback advice harm reduction etc

And not that matters but to put into perspective I ahve discussed this with my family and ofc they they dont condone steriods and would rather have me not hop on but they fully trust me and support me and respect my decision

As i said I have been researching AAS for about 3 years now I completely understand what I am doing to my body and side effects and possible life changing consequences and ofc harm reduction comes first

for me personally the pros outweigh the cons and i am ok with possible consequences and i truly believe i am not your average "teenager" that doesn't think this stuff through doesn't know what they are doing and just end up fucking themselves up i believe i am very dialed in with my diet and training my diet used to be a lot better before I was dealing with these stomach issue but nonetheless I still hit my goals
Please read this...

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/starting-fertility-protocol-0-00-sperm-count.112421/
 
I believe there is a lot of fear mongering around fertility and it is possible to get back it just takes time i have considered freezing my sperm just in case though
Personally I had no real idea about the fertility risks until I started reading some of the threads on here with guys dealing with it.

Some of its heartbreaking, guys that say "i dont want kids" at 17, but at 25 its a different story and they are ready to start a family.

Freezing sperm might be a good idea, at least thats thinking ahead and mitigating risks ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
welcome @V0ID to the EVO family, you can ask questions but we cant approve your log. You need to be 19 and older for that.
 
I believe there is a lot of fear mongering around fertility and it is possible to get back it just takes time i have considered freezing my sperm just in case though
You're CHOOSING to think that way. There are three logs on this forum right now run by people with issues with fertility
 
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