New guy - looking for recommendation on first cycle

[Ladispute]

Sup guys. My names Darren. I'm 23, 5'7, 160lbs. I work hard but I'm not huge by any means. I put up alright numbers - DL 515, Bench 275, Squat 255 (Recovering from knee surgery)
This is a picture of me.

I've only ever taken some pre-workouts, protein, and creatine.

I want to take it to the next level and see what I can achieve.

Through my research everyone is saying do a 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks of Test-E for my first cycle. Looking to get off Purity Source

Heard varying things - do I take aromasin simultaneously during my 10-12 weeks of Test E or wait til PCT?

My understanding is to do 250mgs of Test E twice week. Thinking Monday mornings and Thursday afternoons.

I would like to stack deca on top of test, but it seems like most of you recommend that for the 2nd cycle to see how my body reacts, and I'm patient so I'm alright with that if that's the consensus.

Plan is to start a 5 week PCT 14 days after my last PIN.
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5 ED
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10 ED
Aromasin 10/10/10/10/10 EOD (Read a good number is 12.5 but source comes in 20mg tabs.)

Another variation I'm being told is to take 250iu HCG twice a week the day after my last Test E pin or take it simultaneously with my 10-12 week cycle. Is HCG needed?

Also looking at possibly getting N2guard - you guys recommend?

First cycle, looking for help from the veterans! If I'm missing anything, please let me know. I want to be doing this as safely as possible. Thanks guys.

 

[atf8766]

Hey man, that is a solid first cycle, I'm sure some guys will chime in here shortly with some more in depth advice, but just for starters take Aromasin the whole cycle, starting the first day you inject. Your twice a week split is correct for test e and I would definitely hold off on deca, or anything else, get a feel for how you react to the test and go from there. I personally don't do HCG on cycle, but alot of guys do, as far as I'm aware it just keeps your balls full, but it can also suppress you so I avoid it for that reason. With just a test cycle I doubt you need a liver support but n2guard or anything like it is never a bad thing. Again I'm sure the more experience guys will help more than I did but hope this helps a bit.

 

[Bigjayp]

I think you are spot on atf. Ladispute, I like your style, keep it simple going in and enjoy not having to spend a bucket load of cash on your beginning cycles. There are several PCT options, me personally, I prefer HCG and only HCG. I have tried multiple other methods and dont like them. Dont laugh, but clomid makes me cry at almost anything remotely sad. I dont run any estrogen blockers if I am bulking, only when cutting, BUT I dont have issues with being sensitive to the aromatase process. That is something you are going to have to figure out as you make this journey. If you dont want to risk it, then play it safe and run it through your cycle. Regarding your HCG dose, I think it is too low if you are using it strictly post cycle. I would go 500iu. Good luck!

 

[muskate]

Sup guys. My names Darren. I'm 23, 5'7, 160lbs. I work hard but I'm not huge by any means. I put up alright numbers - DL 515, Bench 275, Squat 255 (Recovering from knee surgery)
This is a picture of me. View attachment 11447

I've only ever taken some pre-workouts, protein, and creatine.

I want to take it to the next level and see what I can achieve.

Through my research everyone is saying do a 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks of Test-E for my first cycle. Looking to get off Purity Source

Heard varying things - do I take aromasin simultaneously during my 10-12 weeks of Test E or wait til PCT?

My understanding is to do 250mgs of Test E twice week. Thinking Monday mornings and Thursday afternoons.

I would like to stack deca on top of test, but it seems like most of you recommend that for the 2nd cycle to see how my body reacts, and I'm patient so I'm alright with that if that's the consensus.

Plan is to start a 5 week PCT 14 days after my last PIN.
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5 ED
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10 ED
Aromasin 10/10/10/10/10 EOD (Read a good number is 12.5 but source comes in 20mg tabs.)

Another variation I'm being told is to take 250iu HCG twice a week the day after my last Test E pin or take it simultaneously with my 10-12 week cycle. Is HCG needed?

Also looking at possibly getting N2guard - you guys recommend?

First cycle, looking for help from the veterans! If I'm missing anything, please let me know. I want to be doing this as safely as possible. Thanks guys.

1. Yes, use aromasin throughout your cycle. DO NOT wait until your PCT to start it. Start it the same day you do your first injection

2. Don't use HCG with your cycle. HCG is extracted from pregnant female urine. You read that correctly. It is a form of estrogen and causes estrogen levels to rise. High estrogen levels can lead to gynecomastia, increased body fat levels and water retention

3. N2guard is a good supplement. You don't need to add it to your cycle but it's a good idea. It is essential as part of your PCT however.

4. Twice per week injections is ideal.

5. Save deca for your second cycle

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day
(optional) N2guard 4 capsules/day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need off of ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[MikeSnow]

I actually dont recommend deca to anyone personally. By far the harshest steroid to recover from. For your first cycle stick with test only. Second cycle maybe test and an oral. Some guys like water muscles but I prefer lean mass muscles with fucking veins and striations, feel me


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[LevButlerov]

Welcome to the EVO community! I think you have already asked these questions in a different thread. So there goes my answer from the other thread -
You should be taking your AI, aromasin in this case, from the first day of the cycle, and then during PCT. Regarding HCG - it is poisonous extract from pregnant female urine, so I would rather stay away from it, especially considering the fact that it can cause such side effects as gyno and suppression. Better use HCGenerate ES - it is a much safer alternative with no side effects, and only natural ingredients. Furthermore, since you are a patient guy, my personal advice would be to go as gradual as possible, and start off with a SARMS triple stack, so you will be 100% conditioned for your first AAS cycle, and will be able to get the most out of it. Then, for a first cycle only test will be very good - you will get some very good results. Do the perfect PCT if you can - it will provide you with the best recovery, and you will keep more of your gains.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Some do great with deca. Some do really bad. I love it. I recover great but I always made sure I used it right and had caber along with it. I've ran mutiple 16 week runs of deca.

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[cujolaverga]

Save your money on the n2guard. The same thing can be had for a quarter of the price.

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[aggirl]

Welcome to evo. First, thank you for doing research. Second, you are the perfect candidate ( body wise) to use aas, imo. Your lean, low body fat etc. I can't stand when guys want to hop on aas when they need to loose 15 lbs first. I think you should wait a little longer...but I see no issue with a basic cycle. Keep doing your research and gaining knowledge.

 

[Badjuju2]

welcome to evo. too young for a cycle imo. as for the replies above i agree. steroids don't help you lose weight. they help you grow