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Gym Rat

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Hey everyone, new here.

I'd like some input on what to do for next cycle. In the past I had run halo, then after that dmz 3.0 with the recent pro hormone ban I cannot get anymore dmz 3.0

What's the closest thing to dmz 3.0. I'm not looking to make leaps and bounds with super strong supps just yet.

Things to note:
Absolutely no ijections. I have kids and needles in the house are not an option so please don't suggest.

I want a simple solo oral pill that I can take with an ai.
My pct in spot on as well as lever supports, joint support and all that.

Been lifting on and off for about 15 years, worked hard on lifting for about 5 of those years. 6 foot 4 inch, 240lbs 20% bodyfat. Main goal is strength strength and strength.
 
Since the prohormone ban the only oral products that really work are SARMs. There are some products with the super DHEA ingredients in them but you need very high dosages of them and it gets very pricey.
 
I've read dbol is great but you lose everything post cycle. Would it be similar to dmz 3.0. I responded very very well to dmz. Definitely had carry over after cycle and pct.

So on a dbol cycle, sure I'll lose a bunch after its over but by the time all is said and done, off cycle I'd still be a step ahead. Just like dmz... Correct?
 
I would suggest trying out the SARMs - they are fairly effective, and extremely mild in matters of side effects. So you can take them, and all of their ancillaries and PCT are orals too, so there will be no problems with needles.
 
Welcome brother. I agree that sarms would prolly be your best bet. Most of your oral only cycles can show u good results, but just as fast at you put that muscle on, it seems like it comes back off, due to much of it being water . Also, the fact that ORALS like dbol with their toxicity to the liver, can only be run for short peroids. Because of this, I have heard that your body does not have the time to besome accustomed to the changes in your body therefor leading to the loss of gains. Anavar would prolly be the exception, since u would not retain water and you would be able to run it longer, but get ready to pay for it. It's not cheap when compared to the rest.

I have not used sarms as of yet. In planning stage now. But from all accounts you will be able to keep most of the gains u make without dealing with the negatives associated with oral steroids.
 
I highly recommend you consider sarms, particularly the sarms triple stack. They are legal, don't require injections and have very minimal side effects. The sarms triple stack will provide phenomenal endurance, recovery and fat loss benefits. After the triple stack run a mini pct.

I would recommend a 8 week triple stack cycle followed by a 4 week mini pct
 
Haha hey cuz, glad to see you joined up bro. These guys are some knowledgeable people, alot of help here.
Have fun in TO brotha.

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First cycle I'm thinking

Dbol
Ment
Proviron

wondering if I should use an additional ai. I understand proviron has ai properties but I'm not sure that I should use it for this.
 
Mountain-Man said:
Welcome if I was gonna do a oral only I would do anavar/Proviron combo
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LevButlerov said:
I would suggest trying out the SARMs - they are fairly effective, and extremely mild in matters of side effects. So you can take them, and all of their ancillaries and PCT are orals too, so there will be no problems with needles.
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Agree with these options
 
I'll try anavar another date. My cuz already has dbol and it's being shipped out to me dirt cheap from him. 2 cycles worth, 3 cycles if I use a low dose.

I've read about side on dbol, does anyone hand first had advice for these compounds.
 
Gym Rat said:
I'll try anavar another date. My cuz already has dbol and it's being shipped out to me dirt cheap from him. 2 cycles worth, 3 cycles if I use a low dose.

I've read about side on dbol, does anyone hand first had advice for these compounds.
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Ok good choice sir disregard PM and keep us posted tho


#EVO FAM!!
 
Anavar sick ass pumps dude like legit full as hell.. Strength is gin get to have a nice increase arround wk3-4 but it comes down to your var some. 50 -100mg but old school good shit dude 20-30 mg will do you right ....


#EVO FAM!!
 
Thanks. Mrsurgeon. I can't pm you back but I'm covered as far as getting my gear. Got a few cycles worth coming my way for dirt cheap. Cheaper than retail. Which is why I'm going with the extra proviron, dbol and ment.

I do want anavar tho, but it'll have to wait since I'm not getting it from my cuz.
 
Gym Rat said:
Thanks. Mrsurgeon. I can't pm you back but I'm covered as far as getting my gear. Got a few cycles worth coming my way for dirt cheap. Cheaper than retail. Which is why I'm going with the extra proviron, dbol and ment.

I do want anavar tho, but it'll have to wait since I'm not getting it from my cuz.
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Hey out out up a log when you get ready to get rolling you got my support my
Friend I'll subscribe and see how it turns out.... You ever run bloods or this #1 sorry can't recall have read quite a few different posts recently lol


#EVO FAM!!
 
No bloods. Don't know that my doc would support me either. She's a bit of a hard ass like that.

I'll set up a log once I get everything and make sure my schedule is clear before starting.
 
Mountain-Man said:
Welcome if I was gonna do a oral only I would do anavar/Proviron combo
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Gym Rat said:
No bloods. Don't know that my doc would support me either. She's a bit of a hard ass like that.

I'll set up a log once I get everything and make sure my schedule is clear before starting.
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Your can hey private bloods very easy, many of us do. Mrsurgeon28 and I have in last week..
 
I think you need to go the sarms1 route and start there.
Its not an anabolic steroid. Actually it is kind of what took the place of prohormones these days.

You have a family you clearly care about. Especially if you are a no needle kinda guy for that reason. No need to go looking for ilegal shit either when the answer is right there at sarms1
 
Jrbdallas said:
I think you need to go the sarms1 route and start there.
Its not an anabolic steroid. Actually it is kind of what took the place of prohormones these days.

You have a family you clearly care about. Especially if you are a no needle kinda guy for that reason. No need to go looking for ilegal shit either when the answer is right there at sarms1
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Jrbdallas for the gold answer
 
Jrbdallas said:
I think you need to go the sarms1 route and start there.
Its not an anabolic steroid. Actually it is kind of what took the place of prohormones these days.

You have a family you clearly care about. Especially if you are a no needle kinda guy for that reason. No need to go looking for ilegal shit either when the answer is right there at sarms1
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I pulled the trigger fast and I got dbol, ment, proviron coming my way. I'll look at sarm1 or anavar when my cycles are done. It's not so much the illegal shit I'm worried about, it's more about needles being in the house. I can keep my gear hidden where no kidshave access. Wife's fine with it so I can store it up high with regular meds.
 
Jrbdallas said:
I think you need to go the sarms1 route and start there.
Its not an anabolic steroid. Actually it is kind of what took the place of prohormones these days.

You have a family you clearly care about. Especially if you are a no needle kinda guy for that reason. No need to go looking for ilegal shit either when the answer is right there at sarms1
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Best answer btw.
 
Dbol, proviron and ment was a bad deal. He got scammed but it's all been taken care of.

Since I'm buying my own in going to go with a winstrol only cycle. I know I should run my first cycle with a test base but hear me out. Sarms are too costly for me, proviron is a future possibility, can't afford right now. Great results on dmz 3.0 and that's just a pro hormone. A solo winny run is just a notch above a pro hormone. Looking to drop a little weight, get strong and lean. Diets spot on, workout plan is spot on.

The cycle:
-50mg (two 25mg servings spaced out) ed 6weeks
-Milk thistle, liver cleanse once a week, lots of water, lots of omega, some glucosamine

5 week Pct (should it be 6 weeks)
- nolva tabs, 40/40/20/20/10
- daa 5mg ed for duration of pct
- some otc libido supps

Has anyone here done a solo win cycle here?
 
hey Gymrat, dunno if this would work, but i know the Super Dmz 2.0 is just a tad weaker than the 3.0, but far less sides, and little to no coversion to estrogen. For my next cycle, ive been pondering doing

1-8 Lgd-4033- 20mg/day
1-8 Osta 25mg Day
1-8 Gw at 10-20mg Day ( Preworkout)

6-12 or 8-14 ( Not sure could use some advice) Super Dmz 2.0 at 3 caps per day.

And then the obvious supports in place proper pct etc etc. Gymrat or anyone else got any suggestions? Would post in a new thread but for some reason i can't post new posts, think it was from calling out some bs on sarms before in the past, even though i use them.... would really like to be able to post if any evo board ppl see this.. would make my life easier n i lke to help other mems out don't think i shouldnt be allowed to post just for tryna be an honest dude..
 
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