NZ Raws & UGL Scene

[resonanceGuy]

Hello Everyone!

New Kiwi to the forum, nice to see there are some others out there! Been on the hunt for some raws down here for some time now. It seems that despite a relatively poor global market, we've actually got some decent sources here, however I've still been unable to locate any raws.

Otherwise, nice to meet you all, and happy new year!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello Everyone!

New Kiwi to the forum, nice to see there are some others out there! Been on the hunt for some raws down here for some time now. It seems that despite a relatively poor global market, we've actually got some decent sources here, however I've still been unable to locate any raws.

Otherwise, nice to meet you all, and happy new year!

welcome to the EVO family! :d @resonanceGuy you're not going to find ANY raws at all like this, 0 but you will get scammed asking like this.
why do you need raws?

 

[resonanceGuy]

Thanks for the heads up! I'm after raws because before moving to NZ, I'd always done my own home brewing! I do chemical engineering, so it's sort of a fun project I get to do while setting myself up with a good supply. NZ is a bit of a different ball game when it comes to gear, I'm used to a much more open market LOL.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the heads up! I'm after raws because before moving to NZ, I'd always done my own home brewing! I do chemical engineering, so it's sort of a fun project I get to do while setting myself up with a good supply. NZ is a bit of a different ball game when it comes to gear, I'm used to a much more open market LOL.

There is no raws in NZ, you're wasting your time, barely raws worldwide @resonanceGuy
why dont you buy premade from our approved suppliers?

 

[resonanceGuy]

I honestly should. I just love the hobby aspect of it and having control over what goes in my body - but you're right, it's probably better to go with the usual UGL's!

 

[dizzee]

I honestly should. I just love the hobby aspect of it and having control over what goes in my body - but you're right, it's probably better to go with the usual UGL's!

I looked at this and found it quite easy to source through China/telegram with positive reviews from nz. Asking will get you scammed but it's quite easy to follow the bread crumbs. Most roads start on reddit

 

[LevButlerov]

I looked at this and found it quite easy to source through China/telegram with positive reviews from nz. Asking will get you scammed but it's quite easy to follow the bread crumbs. Most roads start on reddit

sounds like a scam way to get scammed lol reddit full of scammer and ai chat bots, @dizzee

 

[resonanceGuy]

Oh, I have contacts in China. Getting raws themselves is phenomenally easy, but importing them is always the risk factor. Reddit is also a rather dodgy place to be digging for sources I'd add. There's also the added risk of impurities, but you can always get it tested!

 

[kiwibogan]

Not interested in the raws, or cooking it myself. But any advice on where I could find books or articles on how to do it, or people doing it at home. All I find is professional literature on synthesising raws (AB + D rings etc)

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh, I have contacts in China. Getting raws themselves is phenomenally easy, but importing them is always the risk factor. Reddit is also a rather dodgy place to be digging for sources I'd add. There's also the added risk of impurities, but you can always get it tested!

thats total lying, getting raws is not easy and you're just plain lying that it is @resonanceGuy if I'm wrong tell me how and DM me raws guys i'll openly back off
reddit is full of ai bots and scams, there we do agree

 

[LevButlerov]

Not interested in the raws, or cooking it myself. But any advice on where I could find books or articles on how to do it, or people doing it at home. All I find is professional literature on synthesising raws (AB + D rings etc)

you should get premade not bake anything @kiwibogan

 

[resonanceGuy]

thats total lying, getting raws is not easy and you're just plain lying that it is @resonanceGuy if I'm wrong tell me how and DM me raws guys i'll openly back off
reddit is full of ai bots and scams, there we do agree

You're completely right! Finding raws is easy - raws you can actually trust is incredibly hard. Of course, they exist - we're all taking them in the forms of our various UGL's. I've got two I trust that I had tested myself. Unfortunately one of them is gone, as I was buying them through an intermediary when I was in Europe. One good source in China is left (I haven't tested their product this year through, so if I wanted to use it I'd test it again.) But again, that ignores the actual risk of raws which is importing. The brewing process itself is incredibly easy though, it's child's chemistry, if you can even call it that.

 

[resonanceGuy]

thats total lying, getting raws is not easy and you're just plain lying that it is @resonanceGuy if I'm wrong tell me how and DM me raws guys i'll openly back off
reddit is full of ai bots and scams, there we do agree

It's not even something that really needs a book. The only complicated part is creating the raws themselves, which you can't do at home. But The actual brewing process is simply suspending the raws in an oil with benzyl benzoate and benzyl alcohol. Then you filter it, and it's done. It's more akin to cooking a meal than real chemistry. Some compounds are obviously a bit more finicky, Tren being one. It has some distastes for temperature that requires a bit more attention. Not to say you should do this though, as if you do it with bad raws or unsterile technique, you'll have a very nasty time.

 

[LevButlerov]

It's not even something that really needs a book. The only complicated part is creating the raws themselves, which you can't do at home. But The actual brewing process is simply suspending the raws in an oil with benzyl benzoate and benzyl alcohol. Then you filter it, and it's done. It's more akin to cooking a meal than real chemistry. Some compounds are obviously a bit more finicky, Tren being one. It has some distastes for temperature that requires a bit more attention. Not to say you should do this though, as if you do it with bad raws or unsterile technique, you'll have a very nasty time.

Yes in theory it's fairly easy but practice and theory are different @resonanceGuy
if you do UG sure, respect to you but I dont suggest it for 99% of the guys out there

 

[resonanceGuy]

Yes in theory it's fairly easy but practice and theory are different @resonanceGuy
if you do UG sure, respect to you but I dont suggest it for 99% of the guys out there

Completely. I only feel comfortable because I know I can do it in a sterile environment. Home brewing in general actually requires a fair bit of thought, even if the literal process isn't particularly complex. I can see quite a few nasty outcomes, mostly infections, if done wrong. There is a reason UGL's exist, and that everyone doesn't home-brew themselves!

 

[LevButlerov]

Completely. I only feel comfortable because I know I can do it in a sterile environment. Home brewing in general actually requires a fair bit of thought, even if the literal process isn't particularly complex. I can see quite a few nasty outcomes, mostly infections, if done wrong. There is a reason UGL's exist, and that everyone doesn't home-brew themselves!

I think if you want to do it sure but like I said i dont recommend to majority @resonanceGuy
you on cycle now?

 

[resonanceGuy]

I think if you want to do it sure but like I said i dont recommend to majority @resonanceGuy
you on cycle now?

Yup! Currently running 250 test e, 450 tren a (dosing eod), 20 var ed, 40mcg clen ed, 3mg tirz e5d. Love this stack, always feel great and make good progress. My next growth phase is starting early march so I'm going to get as lean as possible before then. Currently deciding what my growth cycle will be

 

[LevButlerov]

Yup! Currently running 250 test e, 450 tren a (dosing eod), 20 var ed, 40mcg clen ed, 3mg tirz e5d. Love this stack, always feel great and make good progress. My next growth phase is starting early march so I'm going to get as lean as possible before then. Currently deciding what my growth cycle will be

with this test tren cycle we need to see a log up @resonanceGuy have you see other logs we have? we need a good NZ Vet in the EVO family like yourself!

 

[resonanceGuy]

with this test tren cycle we need to see a log up @resonanceGuy have you see other logs we have? we need a good NZ Vet in the EVO family like yourself!

A really nice idea! I'll get one going

 

[LevButlerov]

A really nice idea! I'll get one going

do you know how to start a log? @resonanceGuy

 

[resonanceGuy]

do you know how to start a log? @resonanceGuy

I think I started one! Hopefully it’s correct!

 

[LevButlerov]

I think I started one! Hopefully it’s correct!

almost there needs pics @resonanceGuy
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/test-tren-anavar-cutting-cycle.108760/post-1948837