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welcome to the EVO family
@Ragepotato but why do you want primo? tell us moreI believe @Fusion Canada has primobolan
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/nordic-fusion-official-reviews-and-sales.106502/
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Ive been on trt for 2 months now. Im actually looking for something that will give me more gains along with my trt without making the bloodwork crazy.
Ive been looking around and saw that trt plus low dose primo can translate to faster gains.
Do you have any other alternatives? I see that primo is hard to find
Ive been looking around and saw that trt plus low dose primo can translate to faster gains.
Do you have any other alternatives? I see that primo is hard to find
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do you have bloods to share please?
and you on self TRT or doc?depends on your full log
@Ragepotato EQ in theory but need to know more about you!
On a doc. What specific markers are we looking for?
I got 7.6 nmol/L test
Estradiol < 40 pmol/L
Test free 193 pmol/L
I got 7.6 nmol/L test
Estradiol < 40 pmol/L
Test free 193 pmol/L
That’s before TRT right?
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Yes my next lab will be in a month
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I am at 100 mg/week test e and 500 IU HCG three times a week
This was before. They inly give lab requisition every 3 months
For how expensive and hard to find primo is getting, perhaps using test prop in between bloodwork to trt- levels without adding extra compounds and then dropping down to your trt test dose 1 week before bloodwork is a better idea.
Since your 3 month intervals for bloods you could effectively run a trt+ dose of test for 10 weeks, the drop down to regular trt dose for bloodwork. That would get you faster gains but remove long ester variables.
Also low eq is a option but it can show a false increase in test depending on the immunoassay used. It showed a false increase of 7.2% total test on horses, with no data on the false increase in humans. So low dose should be fine, like @LevButlerov said in theory but would be a little trial and error with private blood work to make sure.
Btw @LevButlerov found a nice peer reviewed on cross reactivity with immunoassays because of this thread, ill tag you in my log with it.
You can get private bloodwork to check your own levels whenever you want. I use teletest.ca in ontario. What province are you in.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-get-private-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348
How about after TRT?
I am in vancouver.
Does prop work better than test e? Im currently using test e. Not sure in how will i incorporate test prop in my protocol
What’s the ratio for test and eq?
Does prop work better than test e? Im currently using test e. Not sure in how will i incorporate test prop in my protocol
What’s the ratio for test and eq?
This will be after a month
Teletest.ca works in bc, only issues there are lifelabs caps total test at 52 nmol for when your on cycle and they dont do E2 sensitive (LC/MS) testing for if your on EQ or tren.
Its about $79 for the steroid panel and whatever tests arent covered by your health coverage youll have to pay for. In ontario, shbg, cystatin-c, ifg-1 and e2 senstive are the tests i had to pay for so far.
The onty difference between test prop and test e is half life. They are essentially the same thing, but longer esters slow absorption rates.
Test e half life is 5 days
Test prop is around 1.5 days(injections are either every day or every 2 days)
So the idea would be you take test prop daily or every 2 days(E2D) on top of your weekly test e. 1-2 weeks before bloods you stop test prop completely and let your test levels stabilize at your trt dose.
I think you should start a log on here brother, so the evo fam can help you dial in for you blood work. Having your own log will keep em up today as well as keep you on track.
I will definitely do the logs? How frequent should i get these private labs? So basically i would just ask for a steroid panel?, or should i add additional markers? What do you recommend?
Also, what would be your recommended starting dose for test prop? Planning to do it EOD
Also, what would be your recommended starting dose for test prop? Planning to do it EOD
Thats good. Ill leave a copy paste at the bottom about how to log. You do need to post a picture or 2 to get the log approved, but just blur the face or add a sticker over it.
Hmm for private labs its not so much about frequency as it is timing. Say for a cycle, a blood work plan would look like this.
12 week cycle
Pre cycle base line bloods
Week 4 bloods (depends on ester lengths, eq bloods are done 5-6 weeks in, where as test prop can be done after 3 weeks for example)
If theres any additions to the cycle, youll run bloods again after the appropriate amount of weeks. If your running an oral, checking lipids after your done the orals is a good plan.
Bloodwork 4 weeks after pct is generally the norm, but your trt, so after a cycle you could run bloods 4 weeks after cycle to double check lipids and test etc.
Its all about why you need it and timing really. On teletest.ca, you basically pick the steroid panel yourself, fill out the intake form and pick your extra tests that you want. You need shbg for free test calculation. Every other basic test will probably be covered. Just know you can refuse any test you want at the lab if you dont want it. Incase you pick one by accident or are just trying to see whats covered. I picked every test and refused every single one that cost money except 2 just to see what coverage i had. Lol
Steroid panel will come with mostly whats needed. Just make sure to add estradiol, shbg. I think free test is on there already.
We will have to wait and see where you land on your next doctor blood to figure out a good start dose. Doing private bloods now is kinda moot cause youd only get 2 weeks of a trt+ before you need doc bloods again.
So might as well start your log and me and the bros can figured out more about dosing once bloods are in. Youve only been on trt for 2 months with no current bloodwork so tossing out dose jumps without knowing where your levels sit isnt good.
HOW and WHY TO LOG?
Why is a Log Journal important?
Accountability, self esteem, and consistency all which lead to RESULTS!
Authoring a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.
To really guide you we need more info from you:
Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread using a full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100's of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight, height, age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal ASAP for us
Here's how:
Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT you will see: +POST THREAD
click that
In Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
In body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training, your body weight, supps, etc and we will help you along on your cycle or help you decide when it's time.
For example: What are your supplements?
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
Apple Cider Vinegar with mother?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
Here are examples of LOG Journals you can choose to use as your template:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-50-years-old-and-transformation-log.108526/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-first-cycle-log.107675/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590
Does the log need to be daily?
Or can it be like a weekly thing?
Or can it be like a weekly thing?
Yea it can be weekly. Daily, E2D, E3D etc. Whatever works for your schedule that also does t burn you out.
I do daily, but sometimes ill do double updates every 2 days.
Second what @Shakey said about test prop...this is exactly what I do and it works great.
Let's say your trt dose is 100mgs test cyp (or e) a week. Keep that , and then additionally (I like eod, but every day works fine, just depends on how often you like to pin) inject test prop (start at 20mgs test prop eod and increase as you like)
And a week before your bloodwork (or maybe 9 days just to be safe) drop the test prop.
For 3 month bloodwork, that gives you 10/11 weeks where you can run your test much higher, and still pass the bloodwork.
welcome to the EVO family
I believe @Fusion Canada has primobolan
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/nordic-fusion-official-reviews-and-sales.106502/
@HarleyGuy @Shakey @zucchini
Everyone's giving good advice and discussion is smooth so I will just chime in and say i you do decide to get Primo from @Fusion Canada NF got great products as I have used them before and it's all in my 2nd log.
@Ragepotato
I have already emailed @Fusion Canada but havent received any feedback yet
Give him some time, he will get back to you soon.
Unfortunately @Fusion Canada just ran out of primo a few days ago. There are currently two EVO Approved Canadian sources with primo going to land soon but it will have to be tested first so it will be a waiting game on Primo likely for the rest of the year with all sources.
You're better off running Test for TRT with your bloodwork showing hypogonadism and you're best to post up a log and share your journey with us too bro. Follow @Shakey's how-to guide on logging and we will help you out the whole way.
Yes bro. That would be the plan up until primo comes Continue with the trt. Add test p for additional gains but stop it 2 weeks before the doc’s bloodwork.
Then probably adding a steroid panel 4 weeks after my doc’s bloodwork. To check if everything is okay after adding test p into the trt.
Im working on my first log to get some recommendations aside from running primo. You guys have more experience than me so i would gladly take advise to reach my goals
This sounds like a plan let's do it!
I actually double checked my logs and saw that I started my TRT July 9. I was confused to thinking I started June 9 (Sorry about that). Meaning the next doc bloodwork will be around September.
Can I actually start adding a low dose Test P and get private bloodwork done after 4 weeks of starting it?
By the way, you can reply on my first log I created if it is approved
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-trt-log.112512/
Can I actually start adding a low dose Test P and get private bloodwork done after 4 weeks of starting it?
By the way, you can reply on my first log I created if it is approved
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-trt-log.112512/
Hye brother,
I take fri-sunday off thus why the response may be slower. As for primo yeah. We just sold our last 5 bottles over the weekend. We might havea line on some new raw but wont know for a bit still. We'll keep people posted as this progresses
Thanks for always keeping EVO updated @Fusion Canada!
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Sending a few things to jano for testing this week for finished oils and some new mini iron mans we are gonna through on the market. Will post results once they come back in
Love your updates @Fusion Canada always on the ball as usual!
Thanks @Fusion Canada
