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Wow....any gyno issues?
Wow....any gyno issues?
Glioblastoma
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No. Tren causes a false positive for E2 on certain assays. So this is how you measure if your tren is legit
VulcanLabs
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Thats not really the way it works. Tren can cause false estro clearly but the best measure of tren is the results
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Glioblastoma
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No, it really is the way it works. An objective assay always trumps anecdote, the latter of which is confounded by tons of factors. I've seen people report amazing tren results on what turned out to be fake gear
Glioblastoma
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No, it really is the way it works. An objective assay always trumps anecdote, the latter of which is confounded by tons of factors. I've seen people report amazing tren results on what turned out to be fake gear
Thats a terrible litmus test. People could have high estrogen if on estrogen converting roids or if someone decides to spike their gear with estrogen (probably cheaper). It also only tests positive on some hormone panel screening tests (i.e. ELISA).
Glioblastoma
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Lmao. Yeah it's really a "terrible" test. Here's the way I see it for tren:
1. Best test = lc/ms
2. Next best = e2 on elisa (assuming you are on pharma e control...for instance, I'm on 25mg aromasin ed and my E will probably be low if anything)
3. Results
Out of all of those, by far the most subjective is results. Take any given batch of gear and you'll have people who says its underdosed, people who say it's amazing, people who get nothing out of it, etc. The recent zitexx issues are a great example. People were RAVING about the tren. Guess what? It was bunk. The worst litmus test for tren is results IMO...I'd much rather take an objective finding with only ONE confounder (actual estro levels) vs a subjective finding with tons of confounders (diet, training, other anabolics, sleep, supplements, state of mind, etc).
If you still want to argue this point I can't help you any further
Glioblastoma
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Yep. Gotta love it when people are armchair scientists. Estrogen isn't esterified anyway and its biological halflife is about 15 hours. My blood work was 5.5 days after last pin. Math is hard for some folks
And why would you want too.
So what you are saying soon as you stop taking the tren and it's out of your system, Your estrogen will drop way down. That I find hard to believe but on the other hand and you should know, if you feel mentally and physically great and no gyno issues then maybe it is false positive ( medical is a science) but me personally would error on the side of caution. My AI dose would be up a little.
Glioblastoma
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Yes, when tren is out of your system, your e2 will drop because the tren is the e2. Again, if you find it hard to believe that no tren in your system means no false e2 reading, then you're just being stubborn or lack basic intellect. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're just doing the former because you don't want to back down from your point of view.
Glioblastoma
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Sorry misread your post bro lol. Yeah my AI dose is pretty high given how much test I'm on, and tren doesn't aromatize so E should be well controlled. Hell, my joints even ache a bit
It's ok i believed you. I just know that usually E gradually comes down and yes I am stubborn when it comes to science. I like to prove everything instead of going off word.
-SD-
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Gotta ride the tren train to find out
It would be unlike any other cycle youve ever had
So true brother, so true.
BuryMeBig
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Tren (good then) should send your e2 levels up to a reading that is death.... One way you can tell if the tren your running is up to par is def. By referring to your e2 levels.... If e2 is 300 and below id trash that shit. Only way to get accurate reading is by stopping the Tren for sure. When's your next bloods?
BuryMeBig
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And thats the exact reason it truly should not be used by anyone that's not very well experienced with the use of AAS's, not saying your not, just making a point because ones going to have to make the judgement of upping the AI's, or backing off, needing caber, without a clear reference besides how well you've become in tune with the body and these cycles... See it all the time then next thing they know they smashed there estro levels and now battle that fucked up shit... It's
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