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57 Male TRT and running Anavar first time

Yes I agree. I have tried a few sleeping pills, just haven’t found one that actually works.
Sleeping pills are just antihistamines. Also, they reduce REM sleep and REM is what your body needs for good recovery. That’s why people who try sleeping pills long-term end up failing and are fatigued all the time. They keep their eyes closed through the night, but their sleep quality is shit. If you want good sleep try phenibut. But use it judiciously, it is very seriously not a toy to be trifled with.
 
Sleeping pills are just antihistamines. Also, they reduce REM sleep and REM is what your body needs for good recovery. That’s why people who try sleeping pills long-term end up failing and are fatigued all the time. They keep their eyes closed through the night, but their sleep quality is shit. If you want good sleep try phenibut. But use it judiciously, it is very seriously not a toy to be trifled with.
Thank you for the suggestion
 
Your total test is high but free test and bioavailable test is the only thing that matters. Testosterone that is completely bound by SHGB will not have any effect on you. Your free T level is fine, but as a ratio to total testosterone it’s low. In other words, if you can lower SHGB you’ll increase free T and get more bang for your buck, so to speak. You can lower SHGB by taking steps to lower estrogen. Your estrogen is already in the high range so you could consider an aromatase inhibitor, but don’t go crazy, your body needs estrogen. If you totally crash estrogen too low you’re really not going to feel great at all.

There are people on here far more knowledgeable than me, but ask around and they’ll chime in. I think I’m usually decently on point with this stuff but get particular and specific advice as to dosages and protocol from others.

As to your anavar, it’ll be fine. 20 mg, 40, 50… that’s fine. No need to crush it. 8 weeks is fine but frankly longer is ok, but at your age pay attention to your kidneys and liver if you do higher dosages or longer cycles.
Thank you for the advice! I increased the Anavar to 50 today. Just wanted to test the water, so to speak with the initial 20 for 2 days, I plan on splitting dose: 20 @ 6 AM and 30 @ 3 PM (30 minutes before gym) Is this advisable, splitting the doses? (due to Anavar having such a short half life?)
 
Currently taking 200 Test (TRT). Planning on first Anavar cycle for 8 weeks. Started taking 20 mg. crushed in the AM 4/9/25 After one week plan on going to 50 mg. if body allows. Pin test 1x weekly. Labs just completed: Test. Total is 1446 /Free 280. Estradiol high @ 94.1 Everything else looks good. Currently taking: Vitamin K2/D3 100/125 mcg, Omega 3, Ashwagandha 600 mg. Tudca Milk Thistle 1000 mg, NAC 600 mg, creatinine and have Arimidex 1mg but have not used.
Diet: Protein: 194 Fat: 74 Carbs: 308 Calories: 2500. Track daily
Workouts M-Sat. 1-1.5 Hrs. Cardio 20 minutes daily: Peleton. Typically workout between 3-4 PM.
Sleep: 6-7 Hrs. (Broken lately)
Any assistance is greatly appreciate!.
No need to crush them just take them all at once. I would go ahead and bump to 50
 
Thank you for the advice! I increased the Anavar to 50 today. Just wanted to test the water, so to speak with the initial 20 for 2 days, I plan on splitting dose: 20 @ 6 AM and 30 @ 3 PM (30 minutes before gym) Is this advisable, splitting the doses? (due to Anavar having such a short half life?)
The half life ranges from about 9 to 13 hours depending on your age and other factors, so it’s really not that short. If the dosage you are taking requires more than one pill, by all means you can split the dosage. It wouldn’t technically be necessary, but there’s no reason not to. Keep in mind, half-life means that at that point there’s still 50% of the compound active in your body. Initial 50mg, about 10 hours later you still have about 50 percent active in your body; 20 hours later still 25 percent active in your body, 30 hours later still 12.5 percent active, etc.

With a half life of 9-13 hours, once you’ve been taking it for several days that means your body has been building up the active compound to a point where it’s essentially always there at a steady state anyway with not a whole lot of fluctuation. But you can still also help eliminate some of the highs and lows by splitting the dosage between morning and evening.
 
The half life ranges from about 9 to 13 hours depending on your age and other factors, so it’s really not that short. If the dosage you are taking requires more than one pill, by all means you can split the dosage. It wouldn’t technically be necessary, but there’s no reason not to. Keep in mind, half-life means that at that point there’s still 50% of the compound active in your body. Initial 50mg, about 10 hours later you still have about 50 percent active in your body; 20 hours later still 25 percent active in your body, 30 hours later still 12.5 percent active, etc.

With a half life of 9-13 hours, once you’ve been taking it for several days that means your body has been building up the active compound to a point where it’s essentially always there at a steady state anyway with not a whole lot of fluctuation. But you can still also help eliminate some of the highs and lows by splitting the dosage between morning and evening.
Incredible answer, thank you!
 
Is your TRT doctor prescribed? If not, I suggest lowering the dose. The fact that your e2 is high means your test dose is too high. You want your TRT to get you in the upper range of normal while estrogen is still in the normal range as well. Your test level is definitely outside the normal range so there should be room to lower it.
 
Thank you for the advice! I increased the Anavar to 50 today. Just wanted to test the water, so to speak with the initial 20 for 2 days, I plan on splitting dose: 20 @ 6 AM and 30 @ 3 PM (30 minutes before gym) Is this advisable, splitting the doses? (due to Anavar having such a short half life?)
thats a horrible idea to increase oxandralone with no planning bro @brettedward you'll get liver damage in no time if your diet is off

did you read what @LevButlerov and EVO family asked? why no log posted?

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...running-anavar-first-time.104199/post-1727683

@brettedward welcome to the EVO family! we love to have older guys in our family sharing.

You laid out the basics of what you're doing here, but we really need to know more about you to truly help and guide you.
Imagine, we just met you and telling you to do "X or Y" drug without detail and you're 57, thats not responsible or safe.
If you want true help of the EVO family, please share, HOW? very easy! start a NEW thread with your TRT log journal, add your training, cardio, sleep, nutrition, goals and history, and we can guide you as a big EVO family. It takes 15-20min and you have the basics up already to start but make sure to start a NEW thread, see below.

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Is your TRT doctor prescribed? If not, I suggest lowering the dose. The fact that your e2 is high means your test dose is too high. You want your TRT to get you in the upper range of normal while estrogen is still in the normal range as well. Your test level is definitely outside the normal range so there should be room to lower it.
Total T definitely very high end, not TOO far outside of TRT range which can approach 1000, but it is definitely into low cycle ranges. His free T though is only high normal, not even really outside of range. I suggested maybe an AI to lower estrogen and thus SHBG which will then raise free T. If he does that, adding anavar looks like a pretty typical but lower end 2 compound cycle. Any thoughts? Thx
 
thats a horrible idea to increase oxandralone with no planning bro @brettedward you'll get liver damage in no time if your diet is off

did you read what @LevButlerov and EVO family asked? why no log posted?

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...running-anavar-first-time.104199/post-1727683
High anavar can definitely go bad, 50 is pretty high but not so high it’s unheard of. Definitely a dosage to be mindful of. In terms of safety profile, there is a long term longitudinal study involving burn victims. It was a randomized study involving 119 burn victims, children to age 18. Dosed at .1 mg/kg 2x per day, for 24 months in a row, no adverse effects were found 5 years post study.

For a 220 pound person that dosage equates to 20mg/day for 2 years straight. Can you directly extrapolate those findings to overall safety? I dunno. But 20mg/day is a pretty normal cycle dosage. 50/day is as high as I’d ever go, anything higher I think there are dramatically diminished returns and much greater danger. I would not use that one study to extrapolate to saying just take anavar super long term.

And on that note, if you’re going to take anything that processes through the liver, stop drinking. No NSAIDs either.
 
High anavar can definitely go bad, 50 is pretty high but not so high it’s unheard of. Definitely a dosage to be mindful of. In terms of safety profile, there is a long term longitudinal study involving burn victims. It was a randomized study involving 119 burn victims, children to age 18. Dosed at .1 mg/kg 2x per day, for 24 months in a row, no adverse effects were found 5 years post study.

For a 220 pound person that dosage equates to 20mg/day for 2 years straight. Can you directly extrapolate those findings to overall safety? I dunno. But 20mg/day is a pretty normal cycle dosage. 50/day is as high as I’d ever go, anything higher I think there are dramatically diminished returns and much greater danger. I would not use that one study to extrapolate to saying just take anavar super long term.

And on that note, if you’re going to take anything that processes through the liver, stop drinking. No NSAIDs either.
post your log up bro we'll talk about your game been waiting
 
I have been told bye a few guys to crush and take sublingual to get into bloodstream
Oh hell the fuck no, that is terrible advice those guys should be ashamed of themselves for telling you that nonsense, take it whole with water
 
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