S-4 stopped vision defects

[tombs]

I had been running the triple stack, started on Oct 3rd. I stopped taking S-4 on Wednesday night as the night blindness is so bad that I could hardly drive. I was up to about 32.5mg twice a day. I am going on my 3rd day without it. But the night blindness is not getting any better. How long does it take for the visual effects to disipate?

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[Mohammed_Pasha]

Bro usually within a week u should be fine with the vision...mine took 5days

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[tombs]

Cool thanks. I was anticipating it would be quicker than that.

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[muskate]

5-7 days for most users. By tomorrow I suspect that you will no longer be experiencing the side effect.

Next cycle keep your S4 dosage to 50mg/day. There is no need to bump it up past there.

 

[tombs]

Thanks muskate. Cycle was supposed to be 12 weeks. Once the effects subside I might add it back as cycle is supposed to go until the end of december. Walking into a wall this morning really pissed me off and my wife is noticing something is up with my vision too.

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[gearhead]

bro thats because you're almost at 65mgs ed...i always say stick to 25mgs/ed with andarine for no vision sides and optimized strength during training...

 

[ritchie]

not even steroids produce such weird ass effects, can't believe you guys take that stuff knowing there's vision problems.

 

[muskate]

Thanks muskate. Cycle was supposed to be 12 weeks. Once the effects subside I might add it back as cycle is supposed to go until the end of december. Walking into a wall this morning really pissed me off and my wife is noticing something is up with my vision too.

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Once the vision side effects subside, add the S4 back into your cycle at 25mg/day. You seem really prone to the vision side effect so I would stay on the side of caution and keep it at 25mg/day for the rest of your cycle and for future cycles.

 

[LevButlerov]

Usually it takes just under a week to completely get rid of this problem. You should not have used such an elevated dosage - 50 mgs are more than enough. Anything more than that will not give any serious improvements in the effects.

not even steroids produce such weird ass effects, can't believe you guys take that stuff knowing there's vision problems.

You would be amazed with the side effects that can be seen with steroids if not used properly. At least these vision problems go away in a matter of days on their own, which is not the case with gyno for instance.

 

[Stevekern]

not even steroids produce such weird ass effects, can't believe you guys take that stuff knowing there's vision problems.

Ditto! WTH are people thinking?

 

[tombs]

Ditto! WTH are people thinking?

That I am not ready to take the plunge into steroids.

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[gearhead]

That I am not ready to take the plunge into steroids.

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bro many brothers i see not ready for steroids....

 

[Bkmike12]

Idk personally I'd rather some possible night vision problems that go away within a week compared to gyno, hair loss, enlarged organs and such side effects possible with steroids. Not to say I won't try steroids in the future but I think s4 is much less risky especially since most sides occur when ppl go over the prescribed doseage.

 

[ritchie]

Idk personally I'd rather some possible night vision problems that go away within a week compared to gyno, hair loss, enlarged organs and such side effects possible with steroids. Not to say I won't try steroids in the future but I think s4 is much less risky especially since most sides occur when ppl go over the prescribed doseage.

The long term effects for sarms are not even known yet. Gear? Most steroids, yes, not yet for tren though. Sarms will only take you so far, use of gear is inevitable anyway.

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Usually it takes just under a week to completely get rid of this problem. You should not have used such an elevated dosage - 50 mgs are more than enough. Anything more than that will not give any serious improvements in the effects.



You would be amazed with the side effects that can be seen with steroids if not used properly. At least these vision problems go away in a matter of days on their own, which is not the case with gyno for instance.

Gyno is so easy to avoid in the first place. The type of guy who gets gyno from a cycle is not doing his homework and will most likely suffer more issues.

Having said that, gear did accelerate my hair loss but was also with my ex during that time and she stressed me out BIG TIME!!! So hard to say which was the cause of my hair loss, probably a mix of both.

That garbage "salvia" is legal to smoke but does not mean it's good either, lol... Check out the youtube vids if you haven't seen it. People thinking their couch is gonna eat them and jumping out windows type stuff, yet legal.

 

[Bkmike12]

Well personally I'm only looking for a little help with my physique. Ive almost achieved my ideal body. A few sarms cycles should do the trick. If I was trying to be an IBBF pro then I would agree the use of steroids would be inevitable to achieve that but it's all relative to what your goals are. Your definitely right about the unknown long term effects of Sarms but judging on what we know at this point in time, which is a decent amount of information, it's not like Sarms came out yesterday... I don't think you can say steroids are less risky.

 

[ritchie]

Why not just use clen if you wanna "shape up" or even some natty fat burner?

But you can stay on 500mg test year round and be fine. YOu really think year round use of sarms can match the 20lbs body weight gain they get from their first cycle of test and be as healthy as taking test?

You are taking a hell of a risk assuming that.

 

[MikeSnow]

within a few days like 3-5 my vision sides go away

 

[tombs]

Vision side effects have gone away. Will restart at a lower dose in a few days.

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