Sources & Test E

[GoingApe]

Been looking at a few sources one being pharmacomstore.in and the other being 1napsgear.org

Looking at Test E for 500mg/week for 12 weeks
For a 12 week cycle
pharma price is 1300$
Napsgear is 628$

Has anyone ever used either of these guys before & Also Would I be wasting my time as a 1st time user to just run Test E alone for 12 weeks I would like to test the waters before I just nose dive in like a lot of people .
STATS:
22 yrs old, 195lbs, 5'9, training for 5 years . NPC competitor .

bench 375lb
squat 450lb
DL 525lb
Im not a power lifter heavy weight is not what I focus on when I lift so don't bash me too hard for my #'s

wk1-12: Test E 500mg/Week
PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25- 50 & 25 because I have 50mg tablets .
Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[NBliftbig04]

I'm not sure about the labs but as far as for your first cycle I think running just test is fine. I know a lot of people will tell you to at least throw in some Dbol but that's what my first cycle was accept I ran sustanon instead of test e. If your diet is on point and your training you will see results. The only thing you might want to look into is an AI (such as arimidex to run during your cycle) read into it for sure.

 

[24hreup]

Yea test is fine for a first cycle i would just use short esters first to see how you react before going onto the long ones you can also combine those start out with prop see how you feel and then continue on the e and yea def need some AI's

 

[Mattdogg]

Looking at Test E for 500mg/week for 12 weeks
For a 12 week cycle
pharma price is 1300$
Napsgear is 628$

wk1-12: Test E 500mg/Week
PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25- 50 & 25 because I have 50mg tablets .
Nolva 40/40/20/20

You could get all that for less than half that price.

 

[Bigbird138]

Yeah, like everyone said, the cycle looks good. Maybe go with aromasin for an AI. And like mattdog said, man you're paying too much. Check the source reviews. There's one international source a lot of us use that I know you could get all that for half of the naps price you listed. Just look around.

 

[sxzsteve]

Dude. You have great stats as a Natty. You haven't mentioned your bf% but since you say you're a NPC competitor, I'm going to assume you maintain a fairly low percentage even in the off season. I'm also looking at starting my first cycle. After the research and advice I received from the bros on this board I'm going to do a 12wk Test E only cycle (2x weekly 250mg) pins. Aromasin weeks 1-12 e3d. 12 days after my last shot i start pct nolva, clomid, aromasin.
There's a lot of info about this here:
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/.../thinking-about-using-steroids-read-9695.html

 

[jmoats65]

Wow over 600$ for a cycle of test e? My first cycle of test e at 500mg a week cost me 150$

 

[Mattdogg]

Wow over 600$ for a cycle of test e? My first cycle of test e at 500mg a week cost me 150$

I think he was including PCT in that as well, but still....

 

[jmoats65]

Yea he probably is but damn he needs to price shop a bit

 

[Wetworks]

500mg EW is a great starting dose of test e or c (I personally like c out of the longer ester being closest to your natural production). Research and get some proper AI. You could even throw an oral in if you wanted (example 25mg dbol ed)

 

[NBliftbig04]

My first cycle was sustanon 500mg/week pinning EOD. I ran arimidex during cycle at .25mg eod. And my pct was nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and it cost me like 450 but that was through a gym connect and I ran 15 weeks on that cycle. But seriously bro shop around because I've seen labs listing test e at 35/10 ml

 

[GoingApe]

Thanks for the link man , & I saw that after my last shot I wait 2 weeks before I start my pct ?

 

[jmoats65]

Most people wait 2 weeks I have heard of some waiting a month. Me personally I go off testfor 2 to 4 weeks then im right back on. I burned up my natural production bring stupid with m1t and superdrol when I was much younger.

 

[Rockwilder]

Most people wait 2 weeks I have heard of some waiting a month. Me personally I go off testfor 2 to 4 weeks then im right back on. I burned up my natural production bring stupid with m1t and superdrol when I was much younger.

Why even come off at all then? You could try running a heavy extended PCT and then do blood work to see where you're at. Just wondering what makes you say you burned up your natural production.

 

[jmoats65]

Rockwilder, I usually come off to get a break from injections. I have some problems with injection s as far as pain so sometimes I need a break. I say that bc after doing pro hormones for awhile and being off for awhileI had no sex drive so I got my blood done. It was like 100ng/dl if I can remember right. The doc put me on trt. His idea of trt was one ininjection of test e at 200mg a month. Big surprise didnt work. So I started running my own test.

 

[Rockwilder]

Ok that makes more sense. I was just hoping you hadn't 'given up' on your natural test just because you ran the PH/DS when you were younger. But that's good that you got bloods and saw the doc and all that. And yeah, once a month...lol...gotta love some doc's.

 

[jmoats65]

Yea rock guy was a quack, told me that test e stays in your system so long you only need one injection a month. What a joke.

 

[GoingApe]

is there a way you could point me in the right direction ? iv been reviewing the sources all day, idk how to be sure that reviews arnt posted by someone who is paid to do reviews and I know thee are a lot of people out there doing this . hope you can help me out .

 

[Flip Digler]

My opinion only and sticking with it . Run test-c if anything , only use test-e from a well known source , that has had zero complaints of that's supper pip that's been going happening.


" Caann youuu dig itttt ! "

 

[yosaki666]

like other member said not that those sources are bad but there are other ones international and domestic for less money and you will be waiting almost a month for those sources you posted

 

[Jrbdallas]

K good cycle i suppose for a first run. DO NOT PAY THOSE PRICES. You should be around 1/3 for gear. Shit even less than a third really. Test should be 30-40 a vial. Test p being the exception should be 20-30.

 

[GoingApe]

well for therapeutic reasons some doctors say 1 injection for 3 weeks is what iv seen but that's for Low T I guess .

 

[Mattdogg]

is there a way you could point me in the right direction ? iv been reviewing the sources all day, idk how to be sure that reviews arnt posted by someone who is paid to do reviews and I know thee are a lot of people out there doing this . hope you can help me out .

Pay attention to the reviews. There are legit bros with a few hundred posts recommending the sources. Those sources are the ones I, personally, would be looking into.

 

[GoingApe]

of that's super pip that's been going happening ? im confused about what that means could you clarify friend ?

 

[Mattdogg]

of that's super pip that's been going happening ? im confused about what that means could you clarify friend ?

The "super pip" was found to be caused by a raw powder issue. Most sources may have cleared this issue, but some may not have. It was only an issue with test enanthate anyhow. It means it was burning your ass up for a while after injection. lol

 

[GoingApe]

You could get all that for less than half that price.

Im pretty positive I found a good source now thanks man you guys think if I bump it up to 15 weeks @500mg/wk same pct just add arimidex during cycle id be good to go ? maybe next cycle throw in Dbol @25mg ed.

Test E 15 weeks
500mg/wk
Aromasin - haven't figured out the doses of this yet looking into it

PCT
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin same as on cycle.
let me know what you think thanks again !

 

[Mattdogg]

Im pretty positive I found a good source now thanks man you guys think if I bump it up to 15 weeks @500mg/wk same pct just add arimidex during cycle id be good to go ? maybe next cycle throw in Dbol @25mg ed.

Test E 15 weeks
500mg/wk
Aromasin - haven't figured out the doses of this yet looking into it

PCT
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin same as on cycle.
let me know what you think thanks again !

That looks like a plan. Maybe extend pct to 6 weeks since you're going to go 500mg/wk for 15 weeks?

 

[GoingApe]

That looks like a plan. Maybe extend pct to 6 weeks since you're going to go 500mg/wk for 15 weeks?

ill look into that im sure I found good sources for everything but the
nolva and aromasin. if I need any more help ill be back thanks again you guys are legit.

 

[Wetworks]

That looks like a strong first cycle. Check out ag-guys there is a sticky in "source talk" for the nolva and aromasin.

 

[GoingApe]

That looks like a strong first cycle. Check out ag-guys there is a sticky in "source talk" for the nolva and aromasin.

Liqui-Aromas-450mg for 65$ whats the dosing on this do you know I was told 25mg eod.

LiquiNolva-750mg for 55$
these prices sound pretty good ? @mattdogg

 

[GoingApe]

K good cycle i suppose for a first run. DO NOT PAY THOSE PRICES. You should be around 1/3 for gear. Shit even less than a third really. Test should be 30-40 a vial. Test p being the exception should be 20-30.

thanks bro I found way better sources.

 

[Iceman-]

Sounds like you have a great base.

The price is on the high side, you should be able to get out the door, AI and pct included, for less than that.

Think about adding Aromasin during your 12 weeks. Some people do 6.25 ED due to the short half life(27 hours), others do 12.5 EOD.

 

[genomex]

Liqui-Aromas-450mg for 65$ whats the dosing on this do you know I was told 25mg eod.

LiquiNolva-750mg for 55$
these prices sound pretty good ? @mattdogg

I recommend you use the actual pills.

 

[Mattdogg]

I recommend you use the actual pills.

Yes the price is OK but I'd never use liquid anything for pct.

 

[Iceman-]

Yes the price is OK but I'd never use liquid anything for pct.

Have me curious on this one. Any reason why? I have some liquid nolva that I'm planning to use with my clomid tabs for pct coming up soon.

Thought the liquid ancillaries where ok to use. Been using liquid aromasin and liquid cialis during this cycle, both have been doing great.

 

[GoingApe]

anyone used anabolshop.org ? I was trying but western union denied me sending money to them. And idk if I should pay with my actual name and debit card lol.

 

[Bigbird138]

Anabolshop is a good operation. I use my real name but have you considered cash? Western union can be a real pain in the ass, but when I have to use them I have always gone to a WU office and used cash. I guess they still take it.