Suggestions on a t-cyp, eq, nan dec cycle

[anviliron]

When I start my next cycle, (doing a short cycle right now), but for the near future, I have some questions on best way to combine these three products test cyp, eq, and nan dec.
MY objective will be to put on LEAN mass. I know the test cyp and nan deca will be great for sheer mass, but I want to build leaner mass than I have in the past. I'm wondering if I threw in an equal amount of eq in the mix, would that help to keep the mass coming, but with less fat? I have a clean diet, but I've always had a hard time putting on mass without the concomitant fat.

Since I mentioned diet. Currently I eat approx 12-18 egg whites/day, a healthy amount of fruit and some veges. I do not drink any sugar drinks, and stay away from all fast food. Fix virtually all
my meals @ home.

Am I on the right track given my objective: cyp, eq, nan dec in equal amounts for 15 weeks? Also, I left out probably the most important thing, and that is how many mg's of each would you
use of each hormone to achieve my objective.

If you think I've chosen the wrong gear (or anything else) to meet my objective please give me your best cycle choice.

Thanks,
AI

 

[Ahmad90]

What else do you eat besides egg whites and veggies/fruit? Do you count your calories as well?


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[LevButlerov]

I would do test and eq at the same amount, and deca a bit lower. Also, a good addition would be Cardarine GW - it will really help lose fat and gain some lean mass. Bear in mind, that EQ can cause you to have some crazy hunger, so you would have to deal with that if you want to keep the fat away.

 

[Bad Juju]

drop the deca and just do test at 500mg a week and eq at 6-900mg week

and yeah, post a better diet outline

 

[Jay Bear]

I'm on that cycle right now actually. I would run Test and EQ the same so lets 500-600mg each. Deca I would run lower, like at 300-400mgs. Fat and water retention is going to have to do with your diet obviously.

 

[anviliron]

First on more extensive diet program. I always eat approx 6-7 egg whites, one slice plain wheat bread and various fruits/breakfast. Meal 2 is an After morning workout 50 gram whey protein drink. Meal 3 is the same as breakfast, duplicating meal 1: meal 4 is usually something like a turkey sandwich on wheat and more fruit. If there is a 5th meal, it consists of something like a homemade lean beef stew, for example. As you can
see, I'm sorely lacking in the vege cat. I do not drink or eat any junk food/drink. Use to love broccoli but started causing too much stomach bloating (gas). I know there are many other choices so I'll have to pay much more attention on that angle. I
didn't post a calorie count because up to now I've always eaten based on my level of hunger, so I eat enough to quench the hunger. Not very scientific approach, obviously.

As far as the cycle itself, I think what I'm drawing from your responses is to keep the test and eq, and either drop or take a little less of the nan, in a nutshell. What If I dropped the nan, is there something less harsh than say tren that I could replace it with, whose main purpose is to facilitate fat loss? Then I could leave the test & eq for building muscle mass.

Thanks, I take all your responses seriously and have applied some already from some postings on other subject matter.


If you happen to read this post, leave a response because you probably know a LOT more on these topics than I do. I am trying to catch up little by little, reading and listening to what others have written here
on Evo.

Thanks much,
AI

 

[bmyers818]

good shit brother, i am considering the same stack myself but throwing the eq on the back end of my cycle, reason being i want to preserve the bulk i put on with the deca without the "puffy" look. I am also gonna throw 6 weeks of dbol on the front side to kik it all off. And for my test i am considering sustanon tho, reason being with the longer cycle i can go into pct faster. Good luck bro

 

[muskate]

First on more extensive diet program. I always eat approx 6-7 egg whites, one slice plain wheat bread and various fruits/breakfast. Meal 2 is an After morning workout 50 gram whey protein drink. Meal 3 is the same as breakfast, duplicating meal 1: meal 4 is usually something like a turkey sandwich on wheat and more fruit. If there is a 5th meal, it consists of something like a homemade lean beef stew, for example. As you can
see, I'm sorely lacking in the vege cat. I do not drink or eat any junk food/drink. Use to love broccoli but started causing too much stomach bloating (gas). I know there are many other choices so I'll have to pay much more attention on that angle. I
didn't post a calorie count because up to now I've always eaten based on my level of hunger, so I eat enough to quench the hunger. Not very scientific approach, obviously.

As far as the cycle itself, I think what I'm drawing from your responses is to keep the test and eq, and either drop or take a little less of the nan, in a nutshell. What If I dropped the nan, is there something less harsh than say tren that I could replace it with, whose main purpose is to facilitate fat loss? Then I could leave the test & eq for building muscle mass.

Thanks, I take all your responses seriously and have applied some already from some postings on other subject matter.


If you happen to read this post, leave a response because you probably know a LOT more on these topics than I do. I am trying to catch up little by little, reading and listening to what others have written here
on Evo.

Thanks much,
AI

Test and eq is all you need for your cycle. If you want to add something to your cycle for fat loss - add in cardarine gw. You can read up more on it here:
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/

This is what I would do for your cycle:
weeks 1 - 12
testostoner 500mg/week
EQ 300mg/week
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)
aromasin 12.5mg EOD

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

If you are looking to add lean muscle while simultaneously burn body fat, I suggest carbohydrate cycling. I have sample meal plans you can follow here: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...n-program-article-trevor-kouritzin-32850.html
Carbohydrate cycling is your best option. It keeps muscle insulin sensitivity and thyroid output high.

 

[Bad Juju]

300mg eq a week?! I think thats a waste of money and good gear imo. not enough for such a slow acting weak compound

 

[Jrbdallas]

I would do test and eq at the same amount, and deca a bit lower. Also, a good addition would be Cardarine GW - it will really help lose fat and gain some lean mass. Bear in mind, that EQ can cause you to have some crazy hunger, so you would have to deal with that if you want to keep the fat away.

I do mine totally opposite. I do my test lower and my eq and deca high.

 

[MikeSnow]

why do deca for lean mass?

 

[Bad Juju]

I do mine totally opposite. I do my test lower and my eq and deca high.

I'm confused with this idea as well