us-pharmacies.to: red flag!

[rowi]

Some context:

I used to buy at puritysourcelabs.ru as recommended by this forum.
Unfortunately had to throw out about 400 euro of products because of the latest scam they ran.

I saw this video on youtube:

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The guy on the right owns this company: https://evalbloodanalysis.com/
He said that recently of all the raws they had tested 50% was fake. (the most faked ones primo and mast)
(So that are companies being scammed by their supplier)


Now recently i had my first order with us-pharmacies.to
Everything arrived (apart from some extra delays, but i got a discount code for the next order: so that was handled appropriately)

Then i noticed the following
In telegram i saw something like "mast e might be coming back, we are currently testing it"
Some time later Mast E was for sale on the website.
Since I'm now extra alert i looked at the website and noticed the mast E lab results are from January 2025.
This is why i contacted them to ask for the recent lab results, expecting a simple answer like "we forgot to update the website, here they are"
But that is not what happened, what actually happened:
About 20 emails where send back and forth.
Why i post this thread and say i think it's a red flag is as followed.
The first email i had 2 questions (one of them was the lab results) in the reply the lab question was completely ignored.
4 emails later (still asking the same question without an actual good answer) i get "Person who can give me information is offline for couple days."

then this email from me:

> You guys said on telegram that masteron E might come back in stock and
> that you are currently testing it.
> And now you are selling it without a test result?
> While masteron and primo are number 1 faked product right now.

i got this reply:

I am the manufacturer, so I know exactly what is inside the product
because I produce it myself. I know the raw materials used and their
quality, which is why I do not understand your reaction in this matter.
In my opinion, it is unnecessary and not justified.

You are always free to purchase the product and have it independently
tested if you wish. That is not a problem at all—in fact, I encourage
it.

As a side note, the Masteron batch has already been sent for testing,
and I am currently waiting for the results. Unfortunately, the testing
process has been taking a very long time lately, and I am not sure why.

Have a nice day.

Kind regards,

1. so I'm being gaslighted for asking this normal question: that's a tactic you use when you don't want to give an answer or try to hide something
2. they clearly state that the current batch is being sold UNTESTED: that doesn't make any sense either. the website gives the impression the sell tested products, but they don't. (and i only noticed this myself because i was extra alert)

My next email:

> So you are currently selling untested masteron?
>
> And you think i am asking an unnecessary question?
>
> That's gaslighting 101

i got this reply:

did not say that you were asking unnecessary questions. I simply
stated the fact that I am the manufacturer.

I tested the raw material used to produce the Masteron Enanthate and
confirmed its identity and quality before manufacturing the product.
That is why I am selling it—I am fully confident in its quality. I am
not sure what is unclear about that, and I do not understand your
concern regarding this matter.

If I were not confident in the product, I would not offer it for sale.
Furthermore, I have also sent a sample of the finished oil for
laboratory testing specifically for the benefit of my customers, and I
am currently waiting for the results.

If this approach does not meet your expectations, then I would
respectfully suggest finding another source for your purchases.

We care about our customers and the quality of our products. If I had
any doubts whatsoever about a product, I would never list it for sale.

Have a nice day.

Kind regards,

This email is very unprofessional to say the least.
If there is nothing to hide there is no reason to talk this way.

I decided to ask about this: "I tested the raw material used to produce the Masteron Enanthate"
Because seeing those results would validate the entire story and answer my question.
a partial quote from my email:

> Do you want to share the raws test results with me?
> Because so far you only proved that you are selling untested product
> because you believe in it, that's not how a professional operates at
> all.

And a partial quote from the response:

As I already explained, I am waiting for the oil test results. The
testing was performed on the raw material that was used for production,
and that is the information I am able to provide at this stage. If that
is not sufficient for you, and if there is no trust between us, then our
cooperation and further discussion do not make much sense.

So they tested the raws on a "trust me bro" bases without a willingness to share the test result.
The actual product is also not tested so far.
None of this makes any sense to me.

Best case scenario: they are selling UNTESTED mast E
Worst case: they are selling fake mast E



Extra info:
I was completely transparent in my email and told them i was going to discuss this matter with my EVO brothers.
Weirdly enough the person encouraged this.
And the last email i got was a completely different tone: friendly, understanding and solution seeking

With all due respect, I am not like other sources. As I mentioned
earlier, this year alone I have conducted more product testing than some
sources on EVO have done throughout their entire existence.

I understand your concerns and your point of view. Unfortunately, trust
is difficult in this business, and I am sorry if you have been deceived
in the past. However, my approach to business, customer service, and
people in general is different from that of many others.

I simply ask for a chance to earn your trust, and I believe you will see
for yourself how I operate.

The Masteron oils are currently being tested. As soon as I receive the
results, I will post them both on the forum and in the store.

In the meantime, feel free to speak with people on EVO. Ask around about
me and the way I do business—perhaps that will help put your mind at
ease. If not, then I completely understand, and I would suggest waiting
for the lab results before making a decision.

Best regards, and I wish you a pleasant day.

So i mean i don't mind waiting for the test results and do hope the products are real.
And i like the fact that we now finally have a normal conversation: but why did i have to mention EVO for this to happen?

But asking for test results should not have gone the way it did: that makes no sense.
Also selling before the test results are back: that also makes no sense


So what do you guys think about this?

 

[LevButlerov]

Some context:

I used to buy at puritysourcelabs.ru as recommended by this forum.
Unfortunately had to throw out about 400 euro of products because of the latest scam they ran.

I saw this video on youtube:

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For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

The guy on the right owns this company: https://evalbloodanalysis.com/
He said that recently of all the raws they had tested 50% was fake. (the most faked ones primo and mast)
(So that are companies being scammed by their supplier)


Now recently i had my first order with us-pharmacies.to
Everything arrived (apart from some extra delays, but i got a discount code for the next order: so that was handled appropriately)

Then i noticed the following
In telegram i saw something like "mast e might be coming back, we are currently testing it"
Some time later Mast E was for sale on the website.
Since I'm now extra alert i looked at the website and noticed the mast E lab results are from January 2025.
This is why i contacted them to ask for the recent lab results, expecting a simple answer like "we forgot to update the website, here they are"
But that is not what happened, what actually happened:
About 20 emails where send back and forth.
Why i post this thread and say i think it's a red flag is as followed.
The first email i had 2 questions (one of them was the lab results) in the reply the lab question was completely ignored.
4 emails later (still asking the same question without an actual good answer) i get "Person who can give me information is offline for couple days."

then this email from me:



i got this reply:



1. so I'm being gaslighted for asking this normal question: that's a tactic you use when you don't want to give an answer or try to hide something
2. they clearly state that the current batch is being sold UNTESTED: that doesn't make any sense either. the website gives the impression the sell tested products, but they don't. (and i only noticed this myself because i was extra alert)

My next email:



i got this reply:



This email is very unprofessional to say the least.
If there is nothing to hide there is no reason to talk this way.

I decided to ask about this: "I tested the raw material used to produce the Masteron Enanthate"
Because seeing those results would validate the entire story and answer my question.
a partial quote from my email:



And a partial quote from the response:



So they tested the raws on a "trust me bro" bases without a willingness to share the test result.
The actual product is also not tested so far.
None of this makes any sense to me.

Best case scenario: they are selling UNTESTED mast E
Worst case: they are selling fake mast E



Extra info:
I was completely transparent in my email and told them i was going to discuss this matter with my EVO brothers.
Weirdly enough the person encouraged this.
And the last email i got was a completely different tone: friendly, understanding and solution seeking



So i mean i don't mind waiting for the test results and do hope the products are real.
And i like the fact that we now finally have a normal conversation: but why did i have to mention EVO for this to happen?

But asking for test results should not have gone the way it did: that makes no sense.
Also selling before the test results are back: that also makes no sense


So what do you guys think about this?

I dont know what you mean by this @rowi, right now puritysourcelabs was called out as a scam but how does this relate to us-pharmacies
do you have testing you did yourself? actual tests?

 

[Noah Wixx]

Dave crossland been around a long time he does tons of bloods for gear users in the UK

 

[2Thick]

Pretty sure they know what they are doing man. There's no point in obsessing over what some youtuber said.

 

[Ulter]

Sit back and relax. Our sources know what they're doing.