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Mr. Chicago
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Looking forward to trying their test and tren as well, always take pics and get bloods on cycle so stay tuned for that. With what I've heard and experienced thus far he is easy to work with. Are you doing the tren e or a cujo? What dose?
Mr. Chicago
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Gram and a half of test haha shit bro you don't mess around, his stuff sounds on point don't think you need to bump it up like that even if you are switching from watson but sounds good how about tren what you going to run that at?
gram and a half of tren, not test lol. right now im running pharmacom sus 300 and watson cyp totalling 3g a week of test and 800 mg or tren, 100mg ap anadrol, 30 ius slin, 6ius sero. other than sleeping a ton and appetite suppression in the AM, been awesome so far lol. only like 2 weeks in at these doses so it may hit me hard soon.
Mr. Chicago
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Damn bro you trying to go pro? Do you compete? What are your stats you must be a monster haha nice!
Mr. Chicago
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Cujo is a fitting name for a cycle like that I hope you're taking some major liver aids and drinking tons of water.
Glioblastoma
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Getting bloods on his t450 (enanthate) in a month
Mr. Chicago
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You mean 250 Glio? Are you running anything else? How long you been on? Zitexx the only thing you are running? Seeing strength gains?
Taylor.Dauwe
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Yeah he's a good dude and his gear is equally as good. Nothing but positive feedback with him. But god damn haha 4.5 grams pw between test and tren? I'm running 750mgs of test and was ready to beat my own ass for even considering bumping it up to a gram. Haha.
Brother I just want to know how you feel mentally? 400 mg of tren ace and I was walking around looking for a fight. I had to stop taking tren cause mentally, I wasn't myself. So I'm just curious on how you feel?...defcon1 shopping was super quick. I got my stuff in a day. I havent injected his t450. Cause I'm just curious on what's in it. I thought it's mixture of test. But someone here says it's just test e. Can anyone confirm what's in it?
Taylor.Dauwe
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Send him a pm and ask him bro! Best way to know is go straight to the source and ask. Haha.
I was planning on it as well but I wanted to post here just in case someone else has the same question?
Glioblastoma
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Nah, 450. Been on trestolone as well but it doesn't show up as T on bloodwork. Just started the t450 so tough to tell
t450? as 450mg/ml? is that a product he offered at a point or do you mean you are taking 450mg of test per week?
It's actually Test 450. I have a couple of vials myself.
I have zero patience of anything or anyone. I feel fantastic in terms of being confident and "alphaness". Im a very mellow guy usually but like you said, i feel like i just feel like i could destroy anyone which is usually not me.
hmm....wondered where that product went
Yeah me too. I just got an updated list and it's not there. I actually got it through one of his daily auctions he was having. So I don't know. I probably won't be able to test it for another couple of weeks. Be carful on that tren. Made me feel good and look good in the gym. But my family notice that something was wrong so i had to stop.
DethMetl
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I am walking the line as far as this goes too. 50mg eod has me wound tight!! Really have to think before I speak around the house!! But in the gym, I am a fucking freak. I can only imagine 100mg eod.
really? jesus this stuff must be potent and pure as hell. weird bc im so used to paying high dollar for "decent" tren
Taylor.Dauwe
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He's got some sweet ass prices bro. And his gear feedback is 100% positive from what I've seen so far.
Sf_Giants
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It goes show how crappy the labs are these days look at how much test your using. If you get your hands on good test you would nvr need such high doses.
Taylor.Dauwe
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1.5 grams is a very high dose haha I agree with you on that. I don't think it necessarily means it's a bad lab. I have heard guys on here talk about running similar doses of watson pharma grade. I've done 800mg pw on a cycle before but never 1.5 grams. I'm sure I'll get there sooner or later, though. Haha. How much is the most you've ran?
Mr. Chicago
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I think when he said that he was more concerned with pharmacom being good as it is that if he was on 800mg of that moving to a true ugl "zitexx" he would have to take almost twice as much to get just a decent bump, which if he bought test e according to our only blood is exactly the case haha I'm sure def is a good bro but I'll know by next week if my tren e is good as everyone thinks, bc I'm guessing by the sound of it many of you haven't run it nearly as many times as me and may just be feeling other compounds you're taking or maybe even placebo. I used to convert my own finaplix-h cartridges by the boxes and that's when everyone at my gym was literally bending bars. As much as i support domestic ugls i need a lab that keeps up on quality control and specs so I'm putting in a pharmacom order later this week. I'm not giving up on zitexx just yet but that test e blood was deflating and like I said I'm into week 2 of tren e will give it a few more and if it's not kicking my ass I'm going to make the switch.
Jzp87
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I will say 1.5g's of tren is asking for a heart attack lol. I have ran fina a few times that stuff will put you in your place. I personally think his tren a is ok, when my labmax kits finally get here I'll post up some pictures. Anyway like what was said if you had on point gear you would not need to take that amount of test or tren in my opinion unless you are trying to go pro. I am running 1cc of his tren ace ed and I wouldn't want to go over that to me it's just not worth it and iv heard of guys running that amount of test before and it usually ends up them in the hospital lol. To anyone new to tren or new to using gear be safe about it don't think you have to run that huge amount to get big because the sides are not worth it, I have done several cycles of tren but it was not my first I waited till I felt my body and I mentally could handle tren sometimes the sides are not fun and it only takes one snap to end up in jail hahaha
Glioblastoma
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Your labmax will show nothing. Tren is almost never faked, just underdosed. Labmax in general is a complete waste of money and noobs in the game get sucked into buying it, when its only real utility is with gear that is actually faked rather than underdosed, and that's a small amount of compounds: primo, var, and if you just suck at picking sources, mast and NPP.
A positive labmax test only means your gear isn't fake. Only way I'll ever test tren is my lc/ms, test can at least get bloods
I have been doing this a while and yes you are right. I question ugl doses severely. So I am running 800mg of zphc tren e, 500mg of test e/cyp a day (blend of Watson/pharmacom/ one ugl with supposed back blood work) 600mg of Titan healthcare tribold a week and 200mg of Titan healthcAre tritren a week. With my daily test injections and weekly tren injections, I add a half cc of zitexx tren e. so most days it's 1ml a day. This with 6ius of serostim a day. Remember, I am a gym owner so I have no "schedule". I train 7 days a week, eat and rest and much as I want. Not married no kids etc.
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Jzp87
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So your saying I shouldn't buy a labmax kit to test my dbol I got that did absolutely nothing at 100mg a day? Never said I was posting pictures of the labmax to prove it was on point, I said in his thread about his test e I would post a labmax because I got extra and I'm a man of my word not sure what it will hurt hoss
Sf_Giants
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The most I ran was 800mg but that's bc I didnt have a good source on gear. Now these days all I use is Tren and test simple and effective. My test doses are at 350mg and tren at 500mg. These days I don't need a whole lot of test. Ppl running tren at a gram a week or even close just blows my fucking mind lol If you had real tren then you would understand where Im coming from. You notice why the dosage of tren comes in 75mg or 100mg is bc you should only need that much to see amazing results NOT GRAM thats insane.
Sf_Giants
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A positive labmax test only means your gear isn't fake. Only way I'll ever test tren is my lc/ms, test can at least get bloods[/QUOTE]
Labmax has its place, I wouldn't say its a complete scam. For me to know if my gear is fake is big to me, I don't have to pin olive oil for 3 weeks to know its bunk.
Labmax has its place, I wouldn't say its a complete scam. For me to know if my gear is fake is big to me, I don't have to pin olive oil for 3 weeks to know its bunk.
Jzp87
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Labmax has its place, I wouldn't say its a complete scam. For me to know if my gear is fake is big to me, I don't have to pin olive oil for 3 weeks to know its bunk.[/QUOTE]
Yes it for sure has its place, I think if anyone puts that much trust in someone you will never meet and never know where they are crazy. I have went weeks on gear for nothing and it sucks. I guess all these ugls and guys doing labmax test are noobs lol! I'll make sure to let everyone I know that does one they got scammed
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Mr. Chicago
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Stay tuned for B-RADS fucking bloods boiii! I almost wish he was doing cyp so at least we knew that was g2g but at least we'll get verification on this test e. Anyone here more than a few weeks in on the tren that's actually used it before and knows what the hell it should actually feel like? I'm having a hard time believing everyone is handling the sides so well.on such high doses unless you're all some lucky fucks. I think PTPT is the only guy that said he actually stopped zitexx tren bc it was too strong. I actually took that as a good sign but haven't really heard anything that makes me think it's amazing since someone please change my mind on this. I'll know for myself in a couple more weeks but I want to hear more opinions on these ugls and updates! If we don't keep others informed we're not helping anyone, don't fool yourself and ultimately others by convincing yourself the gear is something that it's not, placebo is a powerful thing.
Tren e by zphc is treating me well. Smooth and no pip. I really like it. Too early to say that it's amazing tren since I haven't been on it that long but I have trust in high end ugls like them and pharmacom, especially after seeing their facility. Titan healthcare is the only one I had issues with and that was of of the pip and the oil would literally make the rubber plunger in the syringe stick so bad that the rubber would be falling apart on the side of the barrel as if it turned to a gel and melted. Could be the rubber that nipro uses
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Jzp87
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I started my cycle with gear that was very weak so I had to hurry and find what I could till I could order some more. I was lucky and a buddy of mine had some tren he made from finaplix-h left over and I was on that and some random test p he had that to me was on point. I have been on def's tren and test for a week now and I'm still having tren sides to me I think if it was really weak I wouldn't still have the strong sides "I know some of y'all will disagree but I know my body better than you so keep the negativity to your self". I know my sex drive has went down and I'm running the same amount of test I was take it for what it's worth. I have only been on his for a week and off the other for a week so I'm going to give it another few weeks before I do bloods.
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Sf_Giants
Banned
Thanks for the review, you should try novocrine labs top of the line gear.
http://www.legitbolics.com/labs/novocrine-labs-injectables
DethMetl
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Mr. Chicago
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I'm sure he labmaxed it, most ugls don't have legit primo why is it a shock this guy wouldn't? His test e isn't even any good and I really haven't been seeing many convincing updates lately. The auctions that were held were won mostly by new members and anyone that posted on the thread asking for info received gear. Probably all young guys on first cycle so I really don't trust any of their opinions anyway. Now the blood work and labmax I can't ignore. I am so done with giving these ugls the benefit of the doubt, only pharma grade international gear from here on out. Let me just state this one last thing, where is the evo presence def had a few weeks ago when he was blowing up? He has only posted a few times since the blood and that was probably just to look like he was trying to keep the front going a bit longer bc I know people are still ordering zitexx when the only conclusive evidence we have points to underdosed or just plain bunk gear.
NY REBEL
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Man has valid point here.. Your get sick of the up and downs, is it good? Or not. The tren I'm up to 200mg eod and I sleep under a blanket now lol.. Maybe I adjusted. Well see. Seemed kick in good, then fall of rapidly. Who else can run over 600mg ace.. Lol. Hence me starting the anadrol.
Mr. Chicago
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Come on rebel really? You're doing how much tren ed or eod haha like 150mg? I do not know how many times you have used tren or how experienced you are (aka how old?) but if it was even halfway decent you would know it with those doses trust me.
Mr. Chicago
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Haha oh man that's my fucking guy rebel! You literally came to the same conclusion I did, no way you'd be able to do that much bro you'd be dying haha
Mr. Chicago
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When i made tren from fina I dosed it at 75mg bc that's literally all you need. Plus 75mg eod is just about all i can handle and I react very well to it, not much crazy sides but if I doubled that dose or even almost tripled it like you I would have probably died in my sleep or ended up in jail or mental hospital haha and that's no joke
NY REBEL
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Well bro, I'm 31,this my third run with ace, previous times with big brews, and I stated I couldn't go over 100 with his. Not sure what your mean. Have your ran ace that only 3 weeks in your back normal? After increasing your dose?
Payrion
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The mind is a powerful mother fucker when you really want something....I thought the test E was doing great for me...but look at my bloods...im 4 shots in some good shit now and BAM explosion...I deep down knew the extremely painless gear was too good to be true..
Jzp87
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Taste your tren bro, call me dumb and I know someone will say that has nothing to do with it but to me if it don't burn move on it ain't strong enough for me. I have ran tren and I have ran good tren and defs tren is what it is id give it about a 5 tops. It's good enough for what the price is
Mr. Chicago
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Haha! I can believe it with this stuff obviously, I feel fucking bad I gave 2 bottles of it to my bro, he has not complained yet but hasn't said anything good either so take that for what it is. I just don't think you can get used to it like that, not with tren and not increasing doses like that so high. If it was good it's hard to explain but trust me it's not the most intolerable harsh compound for no reason, literally I would say 50% of people can't even touch the shit.
Mr. Chicago
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Pic?! I want a fucking video! From vial straight to your ass haha
NY REBEL
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Your being up a good point... These sources all have very close test prices, look at the ace prices, they vary by 40 dollars a vial..
NY REBEL
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Can I post a video? Fuck it. If not il take pics mid shot lol
NY REBEL
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I get you.. Mind you I was off for while ago first Shots were bangarang.. Like maybe 50%? Then as I adjusted, kept going up, still sides didn't get worse.. And now I can shoot as much tren as EQ.. Lol fuck. I traded good shit for this to lol
Jzp87
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Let's see if def comes back, I for one would like to hear what he has to say about it. I bet all these new sources coming out the wood work are making a killing. I'm starting a lab today I have no raws no vials no filters but I do have a bathtub and some oil and tons of water bottles, anyone want to send me some money I'll over night my gear to you for free as long as you come on here and tell everyone how fast you got it and that by the package it is g2g 
!!!!
!!!!Mr. Chicago
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You said 3 weeks in? Just over? So about 10 - 12 shots of tren a? Yeah you'd be feeling nasty sides by now unless you're super human and your body adapted, but just think about what you said about bgs you could only do half that so there you go. Why is that anyway, what were you feeling? Obviously a lot different than you are now right?
Jzp87
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Try and find primo for what he's asking 70 I think and I bet it's fake for that price. Primo is not cheap at all, that's like buying var for the same price as dbol
Mr. Chicago
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No shit right haha I want in this racket too, easier to get vials, labels and oil than good raws i guess.. Seriously though i wish I had the time to brew, test, analyze, and supply spot on gear to the masses.
Mr. Chicago
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Very true, primo is more than that if you get it through an international source.
NY REBEL
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BGS tren 3cs!!? Damn.. Your all right, we're getting fucked, sold underdosed gear, being raped. We need start that lab asap.. And what sets us apart, or GEAR WILL MAKE YOUR DICK TWICE AS BIG, WITH EVERY SHOT
Payrion
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What we need to do is really hold off on mass buying until testing comes back....Dont let the source have an open forum until then..If someone buys behind the scene then its on them...When new dudes see everyone jumping on deals they will jump....source makes off with thousands before first blood come back...
NY REBEL
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With the batch BGS I had, I couldn't fucking sleep, I nearly got my wife leave me for my pure fucking assholeness, got arrested at groceries store for assault, and had live naked due to being 200 degrees at all times .. That's all I can relate it to.
DethMetl
Banned
Auctions were to good to be true. Don't get me wrong, I won one. Too good to pass up. Sold the whole thing for profit, but sad if my homie doesn't have a good cycle. Plus def threw in 3 free Primo into my auction. Too good to be legit. Or properly dosed anyways. Made a smooth killing on those auctions for like 2 weeks though.
Only thing I kept for myself was a Tren and a Prop, but will probably unload them now.
Just like REBEL said, the Tren seemed fire at first. All the sides were there, even made some physical changes quick. And then I started upping the dose higher and higher. At 100 eod I was also sleeping like a champ, no sweats, just a little elevated BP.
Only thing I kept for myself was a Tren and a Prop, but will probably unload them now.
Just like REBEL said, the Tren seemed fire at first. All the sides were there, even made some physical changes quick. And then I started upping the dose higher and higher. At 100 eod I was also sleeping like a champ, no sweats, just a little elevated BP.
Mr. Chicago
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I just don't know how others haven't come forward and said, "you knows guys something don't seem right" but i just think they're still hopeful and just don't know better. Like I said though i haven't seen many follow ups lately saying how great it is, all that ended weeks ago after all the comments how fast and great shipping was, fucking sucks! I'm so over it, pharmacom here I come
Mr. Chicago
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Exactly! I still think that's the only reason def replied, and even that was a few days after, just to keep the money flowing a bit longer, but unfortunately now I'm convinced it's not what we had hoped for.
Mr. Chicago
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Haha now that's good tren!
Jzp87
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Mine gave me not one side nor did his dbol in 3 weeks! Well it gave me two side my ass hurt from sticking it all the time and my wallet was lighter
Mr. Chicago
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Oh you were saying 3ccs at a time? I thought you were saying a week and that it was decent, hmmm well that sucks too then. Maybe two different batches or just went to shit quick. Like I said I'm sticking with pharm grade international from here on out. I never really said this before bc everyone seems to love him and his gear but even robos tren didn't do anything for me.
Jzp87
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Lol ya 3cc's a week would be nothing. I'm giving a few more ugls a try after that I'm done
Payrion
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They are out there bro..just not usually the new ones...Thats why I always say when a good bloodwork comes back..stock up...it might be a while until another comes around.
Mr. Chicago
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Haha yeah give it another week or two it just might hit you like a ton of bricks, everyone reacts differently and at different times but honestly I'm not too hopeful, well at least that it was good as everyone was saying which obviously it's not if people can run 600+mg a week
Robo's tren was good to me. I was only doing 75 mg eod And I had all kinds of crazy sides. I think everyone reacts different to any compound. You just have to find the one that works. Now defcon stuff I can't explain. I have 2 bottles of his test 450/400 whatever it is. I'm thinking about just giving those things away.
NY REBEL
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I spared you, although normally my wife pins me, that was a hack job. Ouch haha
Mr. Chicago
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Haha! Oh and another thing I noticed is the tren just isn't as golden yellow as it should be, usually could tell the difference when mixed with test but with zitexx just all the same color.
NY REBEL
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And guess what, I'm going sleep like baby lol
NY REBEL
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Who's.. And who needs that much tren
