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Introduction
Evolutionary.org Hardcore 2.0 #197 - Using Trenbolone at 30% body fat by Euro Pharma. In this episode, the guys discuss using steroids and Tren, whether it's a good idea at 30% body fat, the importance of dieting, Tren and PGF2A, risks of organ damage, how to use Tren if you are overweight, and information about Euro Pharma.
Is using steroids and Tren a good idea at 30% body fat, and why is diet important
Mobster says that someone came on the forum who is overweight and wanted to use Trenbolone, who was 30% body fat, so it inspired this podcast. It is a great steroid that can change your body and give you an amazing transformation. He says that big powerlifters and strongmen aren't always the leanest, and often they even have gut, which helps them push and pull big weights. They will use Tren to make them even stronger, but they are also exercising and still eating a decent diet, and the risks are still going to be there even for them. Now take that scenario and introduce a poor American diet, which is extremely unhealthy for the heart. You can end up increasing your chance of stroke or blood clots very quickly, and it's not worth the risk.
Mobster found a study on rats that he wanted to share.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25554582/
He goes over how the study showed that obese rats were able to lose a lot of body fat while also gaining muscle. However, it's important to remember that this is in a very controlled situation, and you are not a rat in a cage over a 6-week study. But it does show that Trenbolone is an amazing steroid that can transform a physique, but it makes a lot more sense to get into shape first before using Tren to get the best results.
Steve says that diet is crucial on Tren. A good tip to help with side effects would be to spread carbs out while on it; this will help balance blood sugar and help with the insulin resistance you will experience on it. Another good tip is to consume a lot of watery fruit like melon and other liquids; this will help keep your hydration strong and boost electrolytes.
Trenbolone and PGF2A
Steve was the first person years ago to bring up the connection between Tren and PGF2A after using it. There is something very different about what Tren does in the body, and he says he started to research the hows and the whys and came up with the answer being PGF2A increasing substantially when using this steroid. This stands for Prostaglandin F2α, which naturally occurs in the body in low amounts and in females is used to regulate menstrual cycles, terminate pregnancies, or induce labor. In males, it causes several things to happen in the body, including increasing inflammation and constricting blood vessels, which all have domino effects, which he discusses. Some of the additional issues it causes are stomach issues and narrowing of the airways. If you have stomach problems already or have asthma issues, they will get far worse on Tren, and even if you don't, you can usually notice these issues get worse.
We don't exactly know why Trenbolone is so potent when it comes to increasing PGF2A; we just know it does, and Steve says it's because of the way it was structured to work and increase androgens so potently. The benefits of PGF2A are its ability to regulate muscle growth and block those cells from dying off, making it a potent steroid to help with preventing muscle wasting. It will not only prevent muscle wasting, but it will also force muscle growth via the NFATC2 transcription factor. So there is a lot of good when it comes to bodybuilding with increasing PGF2A, but there is also a downside, too, which you will have to accept and be aware of.
Organ damage risks
Heart: Trenbolone hammers your heart health like no other steroid. If you go into a cycle with pre-existing heart issues, then expect problems big time. You can expect a steep rise in resting HR, blood pressure, total cholesterol, and more. Even if you go into a cycle perfectly healthy, you can still expect to see major changes. So being 30% body fat isn't a wise choice.
Kidneys/Liver: These organs are the body's filtration systems, sort of the sewage pipes that get rid of waste. When you use Tren, they both become more stressed. Specifically with kidney health, if you aren't hydrating enough, then expect problems because Tren will dehydrate you more. The liver also takes a beating on Tren more than most injectables; it doesn't have to be an oral to cause issues either.
You can see evidence of both by doing bloodwork before and during. It is normal to see a bunch of issues pop up on your lab reports. The best thing you can do to prevent damage is to not use Tren when you have organ issues already, keep cycles short, keep the dosages under control, and use your support supplements.
How to use Tren as an overweight person safely
Steve recommends capping a Tren cycle at 6 or 7 weeks. Once you go past that, the accumulation of the side effects, then you can expect big problems as it goes on.
One of the dosage ideas Steve suggests is 250 mg max per week.
Euro Pharma has Tren Ace, Tren Enanthate, Tren Hex, and a cutting mix 300 product, which is a mix of Tren, Masteron, and Testosterone. All short esters.
When it comes to the shorter ester Tren options, you will want to dose it at least 3x a week. The Enanthate option or the Hex option can be injected twice a week.
It's a good idea to stack mild steroids with Tren to help keep side effects lower. One of the best ways to do it is by looking at flexible oral steroids like EP Anavar, Tbol, or Proviron at 20-50 mg a day.
Steve says he doesn't like stacking more harsh steroids with Tren as they will only complicate things and make side effects worse. You can also stack Euro Pharma Masteron, Primobolan, or Equipoise in it at 200-400 mg a week, and it works great.
Euro Pharma Promo
Euro Pharma has been around for 20 or so years, and they continue to grow in the industry. There is a reason that pros use their products. They are high quality, have fast shipping, and have great customer service.
Where to buy?
Euro Pharma can be purchased from Puritysourcelabs.ru.
Puritysourcelabs.ru is an approved source that has been around for 15 years, providing customers with outstanding oral steroids, injectable steroids, ancillaries, PCT products, and more. When you purchase from them, you know you are getting the authentic Euro Pharma brand and not fakes.
They provide lightning-quick domestic shipping to American customers, with no need to worry about customs and no need to stress about how long it takes. They ship typically within a few days, and you get your package lightning fast. They also offer international shipping to many other countries.
They have reps on the forums to further assist with setting up cycles and answer questions you may have. If there is ever an issue, they are on call to help with your order and make sure you are taken care of.
Forums
Forums on our forums? read on:
More research on what is trenbolone acetate has given me mixed signals on what is an appropriate tren dosage. I want to run a tren ace cycle for cutting but Read More......
Is it normal to feel strong hunger when you use trenbolone? Since I have started my cycle I get as hungry as I have never been before. I feel like eating all the Read More........
Bros, this my 6th week on it, I'm doing 500 mg tren E every week but insomnia is getting worst, I used to sleep 7-8 straight hours, and it's come down only 4 hours of Read More........
some people say it's not safe to run 2 orals at once and if you do you must to run a short cycle, I'm have on hand oral winni and var for cutting so how should Read More.......
Hello I wanted to know if you all though orals and constipation go hand and Read More.........
References
- A critical review of the environmental occurrence and potential effects in aquatic vertebrates of the potent androgen receptor agonist 17β-trenbolone
- Environmental exposure to 17β-trenbolone during adolescence inhibits social interaction in male mice
- Sorption and desorption of 17α-trenbolone and trendione on five soils
- Trenbolone enhances myogenic differentiation by enhancing β-catenin signaling in muscle-derived stem cells of cattle
- Effects of 17β-trenbolone exposure on sex hormone synthesis and social behaviours in adolescent mice
