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signaturess3
New member
I've ran M Sten multiple times. From the same company you're using. They're pretty good. I gained 15lbs in a month. I also stacked it with Halo. I lost only 3lbs after the PCT
M sten is amazing brother, I usually run it for 6 weeks. Always get vascular and strong.
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
The thing I want to know is that if certain PH's can give you great strength and weight gains which are keepable, then why do people choose to inject? I know PH's shut you down, but no where near as much as test or other injectables. Also, I know PH's are liver toxic, but the liver is one of the most powerful human organs in terms of recovery. So would it not be smarter to do three or four PH cycles in a year, than one or two injectable cycles?
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
But people who go out drinking, or have drinks most nights, and there are a lot of them, are doing a lot more damage to themselves than someone who does an occasional PH cycle surely?
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
How long you been on for now mate?
signaturess3
New member
I used 4 a day along with 2 caps of Halo. 2 Msten & 1 Halo in the morning then again an hour before I trained.
Week on with 2 caps daily. I keep replying in wrong boxs. Sorry I have more written down under
audix2359
New member
I love M Sten...I respond to it better than Dbol and I like it better than Tbol. I believe it's only slightly weaker than Superdrol in testing. It's a great compound but it is not a PH, it is an oral steroid - it just happens to be legal right now. I've only run it for 4 weeks before the back pumps got to be too much. I'm planning on running a lower dose for 6 weeks pretty soon.
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
Did you get good results though? What dose were you running for four weeks and what dose do you plan on running for the six weeks? Also, I've seen that some people have only run Liv52 as liver support. Whereas others have gone all out on liver support buying everything they can for protection. What do you think is best?
I've done one cycle . 3 caps a day for 30 days. Very strict diet and a personal trainer gave me 15lb of gains. I Lost 5 after PCT. The only side effect that really bother me was low libido. Since I am married, that was really an issue. My advice. This is your 1st time. Take easy. Dont rush. Follow the instructions, enjoy your gains, learn how your body reacts and next cycle you can extend it if you want. No need to rush Man. It wi give you the gains but the diet and workout will keep them. Just my opinion
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
Do you remember what company your Msten was made from?
oliverrxx
New member
So many things wrong here I don't even know where to begin. A dimethylated prohormone is gonna shut u the fuck down did u hear me say dimethylated alpha alkalated on 2 carbon positions go read a book
Dbol and egg whites for breakfast
Same I got, thanks man. I was guna run it for 5 weeks. But I guess now I'll do 4 see how my body does after pct then try extend what I have left in the bottle week 2-3 I'm doing 3 pills. How did you take your 3 a day? Separated or
Thanks Man! Since I'm new my learning process is unlimited. If I'm guna do it, do it rght
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
Whatever man but so many other people on other forums with better knowledge than you say otherwise. They also say test shuts you down more.
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oliverrxx
New member
please copy and paste something to back up.. how about you run 30 mgs of superdrol for 8 weeks with no serm and lemme see your test levels come back at 100ng/dl when you do..
foreveraesthetic
Growing Brother
Only uneducated dumbcunts would run that dose for eight weeks. Plus it varies from person to person. Someone else can be shut down more and someone else can be shut down less. Either way, Superdrol should be run for a maximum of four weeks, with 30MG being the absolute highest dose someone should do. But sure thing bro, make something up to back up your point.
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audix2359
New member
I got great results. I don't recall exactly how much weight I added - and my logs are at home and I'm at work...but the weight and strength came on quick. I used Ultradrol Elite and ran it from 7mg to 21mg. 7mg was fine, 14mg was a bit much and 21mg was way too much. The stuff at the high doses (for me) wrecked my joints, so I'm planning on sticking to the 7mg dose and running to for 6 weeks.
audix2359
New member
There are a lot of variables so it's hard to make a blanket statement. Generally, you are going to experience shut down from a PH or DS and the level of shut down (or how quickly you shut down) can be much worse with an OTC product. Remember that there was a time that M1T was available OTC. I think it's safe to say that will impact your HTPA more than Dbol or Abombs.
So is it smarter to do 4 oral cycles over 2 injectable ones? If you do a 4-6 week oral cycle and add 10 pounds, please understand that you are not adding 10 pounds of muscle. There is no way to add 2 pounds of muscle per week - period. Some of that weight is muscle, some will probably be fat and most will be water from increase glycogen storage which will dissipate after you stop using the compound. You will experience shut down each time you do an oral cycle, so your body is up and down and up and down. I don't think that's good.
With an injectable cycle, your going to keep a lot higher percentage of your gains versus an oral only cycle. Injectables are generally easier on your body than orals. Is a 6 week Epistane cycle safer for you than a 16 week run with Tren at 1g per week? Of course. But barring the extreme comparison injectable cycles are going to be far easier on your body.
And yes, the liver is an amazing organ and will heal itself. The one thing that is almost 100% overlooked with oral compounds is the hit that your lipids will take - and there is no way of getting around this. If you go half the year with garbage lipid levels you are going to pay with your health later on in life.
Saxon369
Growing Brother
This is a very good explanation audix.
