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Fusion Canada said:
If any of these private clinics work out please email me about it. Would be great to have this onhand. Bloods are so important. We push people to do this all the time. Problem is once your doc puts steroids in your file it causes a lot of issues. Getting life insurance for one. And any organ that fails they put you at the bottom of the list for transplants. Its great that you can be a smoker, obese, etc etc and get help faster than those who use a little bit of gear but eat healthy af and workout all the time. Ass backwards isnt it
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Bro this is Canada, look at our leaders, they don't want us having high testosterone lol
 
dlittl said:
Hey just curious anyone on here in b.c I'm on Vancouver island is there a way I can get bloods done without having to get my doctor involved I was upfront with him about the sustnon but he won't give me another blood test in a few weeks to check levels
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Just go to a walk in clinic instead of ur personal doctor and ask for blood work and what you want on it. And then go to lifelabs. And just dont tell them ur personal doctor either. And then the results u check online. Im on vancouver island also
 
mrcurly69 said:
Just go to a walk in clinic instead of ur personal doctor and ask for blood work and what you want on it. And then go to lifelabs. And just dont tell them ur personal doctor either. And then the results u check online. Im on vancouver island also
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There is 0 walk in clinics in Campbell River it's ridiculous
 
mrcurly69 said:
Just go to a walk in clinic instead of ur personal doctor and ask for blood work and what you want on it. And then go to lifelabs. And just dont tell them ur personal doctor either. And then the results u check online. Im on vancouver island also
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You've done this ?
 
LevButlerov said:
You've done this ?
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Yea all the time. Also my doctor takes forever to get appointment. So I just go to walk ins. And tell them I want blood test and tell the doctor there what I want tested. And if you dont want personal doctor to know I just dont give my doctor name. And then the results only come back to the walk in doctor. Plus I just look at results on lifelabs site. On cycle i do it every 4ish weeks. Just easier
 
mrcurly69 said:
Yea all the time. Also my doctor takes forever to get appointment. So I just go to walk ins. And tell them I want blood test and tell the doctor there what I want tested. And if you dont want personal doctor to know I just dont give my doctor name. And then the results only come back to the walk in doctor. Plus I just look at results on lifelabs site. On cycle i do it every 4ish weeks. Just easier
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@mrcurly69 can you add your blood work experience to our Canadian bloods thread please?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-get-private-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348/
 
BeMe said:
Nice. Your balls are working hard lol.

Looks like canadapeds.is is officially a scam site and needs to go on the list. Canadian buyers beware. Sorry you had to be the one to figure it out @dlittl

Reach out to Nordic fusion or Pur here and you'll get proper gear with great results. Once you get your touchdown you should start up a lot so everyone here can help you dial in your cycle to maximize your gains.
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How Do i make a order for nordic fusion and pur ?
 
Fusion has zero affiliation with PUR pharma. Its a rep that sells our products on their website, They are honest and good from what I know. But the source is always better than affiliation right
 
BeMe said:
I'm pulling for you bro! Genius idea
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Just got back from bloods today and thought I’d share an update.

I went in with the same requisition from Science and Humans, and they didn’t flag anything — got me queued in as usual. When I reached the nurse, she told me the hormone panels (test, estrogen, etc.) wouldn’t be done this time because their system only runs those every 3 months. So basically, yes, you can reuse the requisition, but some markers will be excluded until that 3-month window resets.

What really caught my eye though — my HDL dropped hard. It went from 0.88 mmol/L down to 0.58 mmol/L. I’m pretty sure Primo and Mast wrecked it. Not happy about that result.


Thinking now I might just pull back and stick with test at more of a “sports TRT” level moving forward.
 
Fab10 said:
Just got back from bloods today and thought I’d share an update.

I went in with the same requisition from Science and Humans, and they didn’t flag anything — got me queued in as usual. When I reached the nurse, she told me the hormone panels (test, estrogen, etc.) wouldn’t be done this time because their system only runs those every 3 months. So basically, yes, you can reuse the requisition, but some markers will be excluded until that 3-month window resets.

What really caught my eye though — my HDL dropped hard. It went from 0.88 mmol/L down to 0.58 mmol/L. I’m pretty sure Primo and Mast wrecked it. Not happy about that result.


Thinking now I might just pull back and stick with test at more of a “sports TRT” level moving forward.
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Broo you glitched the matrix lol. This is gonna help a lot of guys out. Thanks for sharing.

As for your HDL that's all pretty standard. Switching to sports TRT probably won't make that much of a difference.

Just for reference here's my last test. My doc told me nothing to worry about. He said triglycerides are what really matter.

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BeMe said:
Broo you glitched the matrix lol. This is gonna help a lot of guys out. Thanks for sharing.

As for your HDL that's all pretty standard. Switching to sports TRT probably won't make that much of a difference.

Just for reference here's my last test. My doc told me nothing to worry about. He said triglycerides are what really matter.

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Welcome brother. 😊

Thanks a ton, brother — your input on HDL has been a big relief. Really appreciate the time you take to share your knowledge.

I was considering cruising on 250 mg test + 250 mg primo and wanted to see if that seems like a decent approach? I’ve attached today’s lipid panel screenshot for context.

Also, just want to say — I’ve been following your posts for a while and I’m honestly a big fan of your content. I mean that sincerely.
 

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Fab10 said:
Welcome brother. 😊

Thanks a ton, brother — your input on HDL has been a big relief. Really appreciate the time you take to share your knowledge.

I was considering cruising on 250 mg test + 250 mg primo and wanted to see if that seems like a decent approach? I’ve attached today’s lipid panel screenshot for context.

Also, just want to say — I’ve been following your posts for a while and I’m honestly a big fan of your content. I mean that sincerely.
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Thanks bro, glad you enjoy the log! Hopefully it helps out the EVO fam.

Your numbers all look good. I don't see anything worth worrying about in that screenshot.

Have you run primo before? Do you know what kind of effect it has on your e2? From everything I've seen the only thing to worry about with primo is crashing your e2. 1:1 should be perfectly fine but it would be good to know for sure.

I was running 300/300 and my e2 was in range still but on the high end of the range, but I felt great.

How much primo do you have? Cuz there's no primo in the world right now so make sure you got enough to last you before starting up.
 
BeMe said:
Thanks bro, glad you enjoy the log! Hopefully it helps out the EVO fam.

Your numbers all look good. I don't see anything worth worrying about in that screenshot.

Have you run primo before? Do you know what kind of effect it has on your e2? From everything I've seen the only thing to worry about with primo is crashing your e2. 1:1 should be perfectly fine but it would be good to know for sure.

I was running 300/300 and my e2 was in range still but on the high end of the range, but I felt great.

How much primo do you have? Cuz there's no primo in the world right now so make sure you got enough to last you before starting up.
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I aromatize quite a bit, so running Primo 1:1 with Test was keeping things under control. But when I bumped up my Test without matching it with Primo, I started getting a little nipple itch lol.

For reference, my Primo is from Pur and Nordic — still got 4 vials left 😊.

I was considering EQ for the future, but my last bloods showed HCT creeping up to ~51. Someone suggested a solid dose of fish oil and, honestly, I was surprised — my resting heart rate and blood pressure normalized, and today’s labs showed my HCT back down around 46. Huge difference.
 
BeMe said:
Thanks bro, glad you enjoy the log! Hopefully it helps out the EVO fam.

Your numbers all look good. I don't see anything worth worrying about in that screenshot.

Have you run primo before? Do you know what kind of effect it has on your e2? From everything I've seen the only thing to worry about with primo is crashing your e2. 1:1 should be perfectly fine but it would be good to know for sure.

I was running 300/300 and my e2 was in range still but on the high end of the range, but I felt great.

How much primo do you have? Cuz there's no primo in the world right now so make sure you got enough to last you before starting up.
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Just a heads-up on Primo — Pur has been putting out small batches here and there. I was in touch with them last time, and as soon as they got stock in, I was able to grab some.

Best move is to shoot them an email and stay in the loop so you don’t miss the drops.
 
Fab10 said:
Just a heads-up on Primo — Pur has been putting out small batches here and there. I was in touch with them last time, and as soon as they got stock in, I was able to grab some.

Best move is to shoot them an email and stay in the loop so you don’t miss the drops.
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1:1 sounds like the way forward bro. You got this.

Yes fish oil is VERY important. The health benefits are major all throughout the body. I take 9.6 grams a day lol. I use the Carlson's elite fish oil supplement.

Nordic fusion mentioned they were getting a small batch of primo as well, if you're trying to stock up.

No primo for me for a while. All stocked up currently. Next cycle is Tren in November. I also got a bunch of mast on deck for the spring. Thinking maybe Mast and EQ.
 
BeMe said:
1:1 sounds like the way forward bro. You got this.

Yes fish oil is VERY important. The health benefits are major all throughout the body. I take 9.6 grams a day lol. I use the Carlson's elite fish oil supplement.

Nordic fusion mentioned they were getting a small batch of primo as well, if you're trying to stock up.

No primo for me for a while. All stocked up currently. Next cycle is Tren in November. I also got a bunch of mast on deck for the spring. Thinking maybe Mast and EQ.
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Appreciate you sharing, brother. Thanks

I was running about 5,000 mg/day of fish oil and thought that was a lot — you’re on a whole other level with it. Good to see it works though. Honestly, the amount of learning I’ve picked up here on Evo has been huge. No way I’d have figured all this out on my own.

Your tren plan looks solid — can’t wait to see how it plays out, I’ll definitely keep following your updates. In the meantime, once I’m done with my Primo, I’m planning to try out a low dose of EQ just to see how it goes. Only wish there was a faster-acting ester like boldenone cypionate, so if it doesn’t agree with me it would clear out quicker.
 
Fab10 said:
Appreciate you sharing, brother. Thanks

I was running about 5,000 mg/day of fish oil and thought that was a lot — you’re on a whole other level with it. Good to see it works though. Honestly, the amount of learning I’ve picked up here on Evo has been huge. No way I’d have figured all this out on my own.

Your tren plan looks solid — can’t wait to see how it plays out, I’ll definitely keep following your updates. In the meantime, once I’m done with my Primo, I’m planning to try out a low dose of EQ just to see how it goes. Only wish there was a faster-acting ester like boldenone cypionate, so if it doesn’t agree with me it would clear out quicker.
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Ya that's the really big draw back. I've heard 8 weeks to reach peak saturation...that's a full cycle in some cases lol.

Smart game plan going low dose if you're worried about the sfx.
 
BeMe said:
Ya that's the really big draw back. I've heard 8 weeks to reach peak saturation...that's a full cycle in some cases lol.

Smart game plan going low dose if you're worried about the sfx.
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I agree brother

Just got an update on my blood results app — some extra results came through that weren’t showing before, so a nice little bonus 😊.

Looks like my estrogen came back too high, so I popped some Aromasin to bring it down.
 

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Fab10 said:
I agree brother

Just got an update on my blood results app — some extra results came through that weren’t showing before, so a nice little bonus 😊.

Looks like my estrogen came back too high, so I popped some Aromasin to bring it down.
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It's a little high, not too bad tho. The main thing is how do you feel and are you getting any sides? Lots of people like having high estrogen because they feel great.

My doctor always says hormone ranges are just an arbitrary number someone came up with as a guideline. Good hormone levels come down to how you feel.
 
BeMe said:
It's a little high, not too bad tho. The main thing is how do you feel and are you getting any sides? Lots of people like having high estrogen because they feel great.

My doctor always says hormone ranges are just an arbitrary number someone came up with as a guideline. Good hormone levels come down to how you feel.
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Libido and erections are all good, but in my last workout I felt a bit low, and for the past couple of days I noticed some nipple itch. Instead of taking an AI, I gave myself an extra shot of Primo thinking it would help.

Looking at it now, I’m thinking the smarter move is probably to lower my Test dose and bump up the Primo instead.
 
Fab10 said:
Libido and erections are all good, but in my last workout I felt a bit low, and for the past couple of days I noticed some nipple itch. Instead of taking an AI, I gave myself an extra shot of Primo thinking it would help.

Looking at it now, I’m thinking the smarter move is probably to lower my Test dose and bump up the Primo instead.
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Yea but the primo will take time. You did the right thing. Having an AI on hand for those type of situations is a smart move.

If that's your blood work at a 1:1 ratio lowering the test, upping the primo, or both might be the way to go. This is a good question for @LevButlerov
 
Fab10 said:
I agree brother

Just got an update on my blood results app — some extra results came through that weren’t showing before, so a nice little bonus 😊.

Looks like my estrogen came back too high, so I popped some Aromasin to bring it down.
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What was your test intake at those levels? :D @Fab10
 
LevButlerov said:
What was your test intake at those levels? :D @Fab10
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I was running a 1:1 ratio (250 Test / 250 Primo) and lately bumped my Test up to 350 mg while keeping Primo the same. It’s only been about 2 weeks, but I didn’t expect things to turn around this way so quickly.
 
Fab10 said:
I was running a 1:1 ratio (250 Test / 250 Primo) and lately bumped my Test up to 350 mg while keeping Primo the same. It’s only been about 2 weeks, but I didn’t expect things to turn around this way so quickly.
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So just to clarify, when you took the test you were at a 1:1 ratio? OR were you at the 350mg.

Seems kind of irrelevant though because up in the dose for two weeks shouldn't really skew your markers that much
 
BeMe said:
So just to clarify, when you took the test you were at a 1:1 ratio? OR were you at the 350mg.

Seems kind of irrelevant though because up in the dose for two weeks shouldn't really skew your markers that much
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I was gradually increasing the dose by 25 mg at a time, and for the past 2 weeks I’ve been running 350 mg.
 
Fab10 said:
I was gradually increasing the dose by 25 mg at a time, and for the past 2 weeks I’ve been running 350 mg.
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350 is a good dose, do you plan to do a log? we have been waiting? :D @Fab10
 
LevButlerov said:
350 is a good dose, do you plan to do a log? we have been waiting? :D @Fab10
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His e2 was outta range at 175 just a bit over. Felt itchy nips.

Would he be better off adding primo, decreasing test, or both.

Keep in mind @Fab10 is cruising
 
BeMe said:
His e2 was outta range at 175 just a bit over. Felt itchy nips.

Would he be better off adding primo, decreasing test, or both.

Keep in mind @Fab10 is cruising
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Too many are using the primobolan as a crutch. And I'd love to see @Fab10 log so we can get to the bottom of the actual issue, instead of 1 off guessing. Very difficult as you know @BeMe to see situation fully without a log. :D
 
LevButlerov said:
Too many are using the primobolan as a crutch. And I'd love to see @Fab10 log so we can get to the bottom of the actual issue, instead of 1 off guessing. Very difficult as you know @BeMe to see situation fully without a log. :D
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Good point good point. My bad lol

I should've realized the first time you said it LOL. I feel like my brain is a little slow today. I was struggling with plate math 20mins ago...and I'm Asian lol
 
BeMe said:
Good point good point. My bad lol

I should've realized the first time you said it LOL. I feel like my brain is a little slow today. I was struggling with plate math 20mins ago...and I'm Asian lol
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You're always actually on the right track, thank you for supporting EVO brothers :D
I found many times, deep issues are only diagnosed in log form where we can get day to day info. @BeMe
You can see it yourself as a true Veteran brother in the EVO family.
 
LevButlerov said:
You're always actually on the right track, thank you for supporting EVO brothers :D
I found many times, deep issues are only diagnosed in log form where we can get day to day info. @BeMe
You can see it yourself as a true Veteran brother in the EVO family.
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I know I know...I know better. Brain fog lol

Shoulda been me saying what you said
 
LevButlerov said:
Too many are using the primobolan as a crutch. And I'd love to see @Fab10 log so we can get to the bottom of the actual issue, instead of 1 off guessing. Very difficult as you know @BeMe to see situation fully without a log. :D
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I will update my log this weekend.
LevButlerov said:
Too many are using the primobolan as a crutch. And I'd love to see @Fab10 log so we can get to the bottom of the actual issue, instead of 1 off guessing. Very difficult as you know @BeMe to see situation fully without a log. :D
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sure I’ll get to it . A bit delayed on that part, but won’t do it anymore now.
 
dlittl said:
Hey been a while since I've been on here hurt my shoulder so bailed on my cycle but feeling better so getting back into it having some PIP problems with the stuff I have thank you about trying somebody else's just wondering if private source Canada (synpharma) is still a good source?
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Syn is still an approved source on here, but I’m currently using @OxygenPharm and couldn’t be happier. Using their Test E and confirmed it g2g with my blood work recently. Highly recommend you give them a go. Zero Pip and super easy to draw up with insulin pins.
 
abaltered said:
Syn is still an approved source on here, but I’m currently using @OxygenPharm and couldn’t be happier. Using their Test E and confirmed it g2g with my blood work recently. Highly recommend you give them a go. Zero Pip and super easy to draw up with insulin pins.
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Are you pining sub q if your using insulin pins
 
dlittl said:
Are you pining sub q if your using insulin pins
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Yep, 25mg daily so 10 units, not a big amount of volume, I read sub q is better for smoother absorption so your risk of e2 issues is lower but who knows, it’s just how I started and I’m not taking big shots. I think when it’s above 50 units of volume daily they start saying you should inject IM.🤷‍♂️
 
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