Venom Pharma Test E 300 - HeavyIron Protocol #2

[Serotonin]

Thanks lunchbox

And Rock, how much test were you running? I saw that thread but don't remember the numbers. Pretty sure it was pretty low. A lot of people don't get good gains from test until they raise it to 750mg-1000mg a week. Seen it over and over again. With all kinds of brands.

Venom's gear is spot on imo. Just really trying to make sure his GH is good now.

 

[Rockwilder]

I never made a thread or posted about it, but I ran it at 600 a week, and even blasted a gram a week at the end. Should of ran bloods, but oh well. It wasn't a big deal for me, because it was 'free'...well not really but you know what I mean lol.

 

[Serotonin]

I never made a thread or posted about it, but I ran it at 600 a week, and even blasted a gram a week at the end. Should of ran bloods, but oh well. It wasn't a big deal for me, because it was 'free'...well not really but you know what I mean lol.

Gotcha. Were you taking an AI? Those can effect gains a lot of guys overdose them. Just trying to think of all the possibilities.

 

[Rockwilder]

I ran Purchase Peptides Aromasin 12.5 twice a week on injection days at first, then I stopped using it altogether.

 

[Serotonin]

I ran Purchase Peptides Aromasin 12.5 twice a week on injection days at first, then I stopped using it altogether.

That's about the highest I would tell anyone to run aromasin but its not too much if you're estro sensitive. Too bad to hear about the no gains. Really weird. There are other factors too but you seem knowledgeable enough to know all of that already. Shitty news indeed. I'm sure its a fluke like I have said. Chalk it up to a bad batch I guess. Pretty sure he doesn't make the gear either and instead has his own chemist. Wish someone else could give their input as well.

 

[Rockwilder]

Yeah it is what it is. Just thought I'd share my personal experience since I used the product. I've seen people have success though, and plus he was nice enough to refund a bunch of us.

 

[the_waco_kid]

Like m88tow, Venom was cool enough to send me some Test-E 300 to make it right for the transdermal mishap, which I applaud him. Very stand up of him. I did not run blood work, but unfortunately the Test-E worked about as well as the transdermals for me. Again, didn't run bloods, but no side effects or gains out of the natty ordinary with diet and training on point. Bad batch perhaps, no biggie, took a small L. I genuinely hope this turns out well for you though.

I ran his test E 300 and it was completely bunk. And yes, I did get bloods to prove it. Later he said it was EQ mistakenly labeled as test E. Honestly I don't think it was EQ either but either way it sure as hell wasn't test since my total T was under 200 at 600mg/week.

Pretty sure the caber and aromasin I got from him were bunk also. The caber for sure. Only things I had from him that truly worked was his t3 and Clen.

He did replace my whole cycle although I never used it because I just couldn't trust injecting any of it into my body. So I tossed it.

I have heard he has his stuff together now and that's great. You won't meet a nicer or more helpful guy. He showed character by replacing all the old cycles from transdermals. Give him credit for that also. Hope it works out for him.

 

[JDizzle]

Just got my bloods done will have the results sometime next week.

 

[JackSteel]

I ran his test E 300 and it was completely bunk. And yes, I did get bloods to prove it. Later he said it was EQ mistakenly labeled as test E. Honestly I don't think it was EQ either but either way it sure as hell wasn't test since my total T was under 200 at 600mg/week.

Pretty sure the caber and aromasin I got from him were bunk also. The caber for sure. Only things I had from him that truly worked was his t3 and Clen.

He did replace my whole cycle although I never used it because I just couldn't trust injecting any of it into my body. So I tossed it.

I have heard he has his stuff together now and that's great. You won't meet a nicer or more helpful guy. He showed character by replacing all the old cycles from transdermals. Give him credit for that also. Hope it works out for him.

That was a few years ago wasn't it? His test E 300 is 100% now


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[the_waco_kid]

That was a few years ago wasn't it? His test E 300 is 100% now


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It was about 12 months ago. Last fall. Glad to hear his stuff is gtg now. He's a really good guy I wish him the best.

 

[El Hefe]

Gator (Venom) is definitely a trustworthy source. He will ALWAYS make things right.

The service and order fulfillment time has always been very good. I can usually email him with an order on a Monday and receive the package on Friday.

I'm aware of some of the problems in the past concerning his Venom brand gear. But the guy has a very impressive list of pharma gear....probably one of the best for a domestic source. I feel that's worth mentioning and often overlooked. So I would suggest to those who are considering Venom, but unsure of the UG, buy his pharma gear.

As for the problems of the past, my personal opinion was that it had to do with his old source for 'raws' and nothing to do with him or whoever he employs for production.

Inconsistent raws are a huge problem in this business. All UGL's have to source raws which usually leaves them at the mercy of a foreign company. Sure, they might test the raws and take certain precautionary quality measures, but no UGL tests every single ounce of powder.

In Gators case, I believe they were accurate and honest (if not generous) in their manufacturing but their raws were not to the same standard.

 

[JackSteel]

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[JackSteel]

Gator (Venom) is definitely a trustworthy source. He will ALWAYS make things right.

The service and order fulfillment time has always been very good. I can usually email him with an order on a Monday and receive the package on Friday.

I'm aware of some of the problems in the past concerning his Venom brand gear. But the guy has a very impressive list of pharma gear....probably one of the best for a domestic source. I feel that's worth mentioning and often overlooked. So I would suggest to those who are considering Venom, but unsure of the UG, buy his pharma gear.

As for the problems of the past, my personal opinion was that it had to do with his old source for 'raws' and nothing to do with him or whoever he employs for production.

Inconsistent raws are a huge problem in this business. All UGL's have to source raws which usually leaves them at the mercy of a foreign company. Sure, they might test the raws and take certain precautionary quality measures, but no UGL tests every single ounce of powder.

In Gators case, I believe they were accurate and honest (if not generous) in their manufacturing but their raws were not to the same standard.

I don't know much about the business but I do know I've never since EF even gotten a bad batch of anything. Got a different steroid by accident once but me and all my friends have been really happy. I could never figure out why so many said they got bunk stuff and that would explain it. I always knew the guy meant well so I stuck with him. No reason to change sources ever at this point. Crossing fingers he doesn't get nabbed lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?

 

[Serotonin]

Gator (Venom) is definitely a trustworthy source. He will ALWAYS make things right.

The service and order fulfillment time has always been very good. I can usually email him with an order on a Monday and receive the package on Friday.

I'm aware of some of the problems in the past concerning his Venom brand gear. But the guy has a very impressive list of pharma gear....probably one of the best for a domestic source. I feel that's worth mentioning and often overlooked. So I would suggest to those who are considering Venom, but unsure of the UG, buy his pharma gear.

As for the problems of the past, my personal opinion was that it had to do with his old source for 'raws' and nothing to do with him or whoever he employs for production.

Inconsistent raws are a huge problem in this business. All UGL's have to source raws which usually leaves them at the mercy of a foreign company. Sure, they might test the raws and take certain precautionary quality measures, but no UGL tests every single ounce of powder.

In Gators case, I believe they were accurate and honest (if not generous) in their manufacturing but their raws were not to the same standard.

This is exactly what I was thinking. I really feel like Gator is a good person and means well with his business.

 

[JackSteel]

Sorry for these bumps. I have to reply to get the thread updated on my phone


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[userbrah]

Yeah.
Avoiding anyone who sells transdermals.
Especially ones of compounds that are not testosterone.
That should be a big red flag.

 

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.
Avoiding anyone who sells transdermals.
Especially ones of compounds that are not testosterone.
That should be a big red flag.

That blanket statement is not a strong one to live by.

One of the most respected and sought after underground sources carries all types of Transdermals as part of one of his many "Lines" of products available.

 

[JackSteel]

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[Saxon369]

Sorry for these bumps. I have to reply to get the thread updated on my phone


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Hey Jack, what kind of phone do you have? Only ask because I have a iPhone and with the tapatalk app,,, I have a button on the top right that pulls up a few options / one of which is a refresh button. Refreshes the thread without having to bump it. Not sure if that will work with your ph... But thought I'd share. ;-)

 

[JackSteel]

iPhone 5c but it's been acting up ever since I updated to iOS 8.2 I think


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