Differences in Test

[Brookstone77]

I know everyone says all test products are test but, the only difference is the esters attached to them(short vs long).

But I get majorly different results depending on the Esther types. For example the cycle I just ended was an e, prop, and deca buffer(200mg for joint support works great for me). Had zero gyno/estrogen issues but only put on 12lbs muscle based on scans. This cycle was kept at 1000mg test per week, e and p combined and settled to 750mg when I came off prop and continued with only e.


When last year my sustanon/eq cycle put on 19 in 12 weeks. But struggled with estrogen/gyno issues... (Yes I'm aware of the need to run eq longer)


So my real question what are the differences in results from the different types of test.

Test E
Test C
Test P
And Test with no Esther;

Help a brother out!!!


Currents stats 29yo 241 lbs 13.1%(started at 11.0%, bulk cycle).

 

[jbranken]

So you put on more weight during one cycle and less weight during the next cycle and you think the ester is the culprit?

Second question... Did you use an a.i. either cycle

 

[Brookstone77]

Ai's on hand and blood work every four weeks. Always take erase pro on cycle and normally keeps everything just peachy.

And just asking bro, a lot of guys on this forum are far more knowledgeable then I am. Gotta ask to know.

 

[Redam]

Are you saying you use erase pro as your ai? If so that's trouble

 

[13bret]

Are you saying you use erase pro as your ai? If so that's trouble

Begging for some man boobs

 

[Brookstone77]

Not taking erase pro as an ai(always keep ai's on hand). I take the erase as an anti-estrogen(suicidal estrogen blocker).

 

[jbranken]

Anti E = A.I.

Anyway, to answer your question, as you get closer to your genetic potential, you'll make less gains each cycle (generally speaking). Has nothing to do with the ester. As to why you got gyno one cycle and not the other, well, that's just the luck of the draw. If you're running test at 1000mg, your E is probably 300+. It should be at 20-40

Rather than having an ai on hand, try using it from the start. And no, it doesn't hinder gains. Control your E every cycle and you won't have to worry about gyno

 

[xdarren18]

Exactly^^. I've never understood why people wait until they feel a lump or have itchy nips to use an A.I. Do you wait until you get a cavity to brush your teeth? Use an A.I people.

 

[Brookstone77]

Clarify if I'm wrong but from my understanding Ai's are aromatase inhibitors which prevent testosterone from breaking down into estrogen. Where as suicidal estrogen blockers will still allow excessively his testosterone to breakdown but causes estrogen to not be reabsorbed(blocked) or makes it unusable by the body(binding failure).

Jbraken- do you have any info on the differences in the test forms? For example a lot of cutting cycles prefer test c- but from my current understanding if their all the same why does a mid length have an advantage over a short or long Esther?

 

[jbranken]

Clarify if I'm wrong but from my understanding Ai's are aromatase inhibitors which prevent testosterone from breaking down into estrogen. Where as suicidal estrogen blockers will still allow excessively his testosterone to breakdown but causes estrogen to not be reabsorbed(blocked) or makes it unusable by the body(binding failure).

Jbraken- do you have any info on the differences in the test forms? For example a lot of cutting cycles prefer test c- but from my current understanding if their all the same why does a mid length have an advantage over a short or long Esther?

Aromatase is a precursor to estrogen. An Estrogen blocker is an a.i... The technical term is aromatase inhibitor, not estrogen blocker. They're not two different things. Suicidal aromatase inhibitors like aromasin are actually superior to an a.i.
like adex

Prop is used in cutting simply because shorter esters tend to cause less bloat which will give you a dry look for contest prep. You can easily cut with long estered test as well, just watch your diet.

 

[Yeezus]

Also short ester test gives my more actual test in comparison to long ester per mg.
Tne gives the most. Then other shorts like ace and prop, then the long esters.

Just keep that in mind, cuz test is test.... Just the esters differ in how it effects you

 

[Brookstone77]

Thanks for the replies!! And that's the kind of info I'm looking for- Yeezus can you clarify"Tne"

 

[Yeezus]

Tne- test no ester or test suspension

 

[Brookstone77]

Jbreakin would u recommend a suicidal blocker with a sust eq cycle?

 

[jbranken]

Jbreakin would u recommend a suicidal blocker with a sust eq cycle?

Yes. Test converts to estrogen and eq converts to estrogen at half the rate of testosterone. I recommend always using an aromatase inhibitor (estrogen blocker as you called it) with every cycle

Aromasin (aka exemestane) is the best for this

 

[Brookstone77]

Good deal, thanks for the info. Will run it on cycle this time

 

[jbranken]

12.5mg eod is a good start