First Cycle! SUBCUTANEOUS Test P/EQ

[eloethe1488]

Hello gentlemen, i am ready to start a cycle in the upcoming months i just want to know if this sounds wack to anyone, first off its all SUBQ which i know might be looked down upon but ive looked at many forums and i feel as if its a vaild option. (Im not too fond of IM needles) Okay so as a lean 18yr old, i was thinking to run 150mg or so test P a week with every day subQ injections alongside 100mg Boldenone undec a week SUBq with around 5+ injections a week. When i up my doses im gonna move up to IM needles but how does this look for the doses i was considering?

 

[jenkemj]

Hello gentlemen, i am ready to start a cycle in the upcoming months i just want to know if this sounds wack to anyone, first off its all SUBQ which i know might be looked down upon but ive looked at many forums and i feel as if its a vaild option. (Im not too fond of IM needles) Okay so as a lean 18yr old, i was thinking to run 150mg or so test P a week with every day subQ injections alongside 100mg Boldenone undec a week SUBq with around 5+ injections a week. When i up my doses im gonna move up to IM needles but how does this look for the doses i was considering?

Hey mate, advice I’ve had from the forum is that IM is definitely the go. Why test p?
From what I’ve seen test e in Mct oil would
Be the most appropriate for subq if that’s the only option you’d consider. You’d definitely save a few dollars. I’ll tag a few guys that know a lot more than I do to get some proper advice though before you commit to something.
@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy

 

[Dreamer]

Your 18, this is a terrible idea, the doses are wrong anyway, you would be barely replacing your natural t at 150mg being 18 and then likely tanking your e2 with 100mg of eq.

Again, 18 years old, you need a cycle of food and heavy lifting, nothing more.
@LevButlerov @s.gentz @Allupfromhere

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hello gentlemen, i am ready to start a cycle in the upcoming months i just want to know if this sounds wack to anyone, first off its all SUBQ which i know might be looked down upon but ive looked at many forums and i feel as if its a vaild option. (Im not too fond of IM needles) Okay so as a lean 18yr old, i was thinking to run 150mg or so test P a week with every day subQ injections alongside 100mg Boldenone undec a week SUBq with around 5+ injections a week. When i up my doses im gonna move up to IM needles but how does this look for the doses i was considering?

As a lean 18 year old you dont need gear you need to learn to eat and train properly young brother. Im sorry but we can give steroid advice to children.

However we can help you get your training and nutrition dialled so then you can capitalise on your early gains whilst your natural levels are at their highest.

 

[eloethe1488]

Your 18, this is a terrible idea, the doses are wrong anyway, you would be barely replacing your natural t at 150mg being 18 and then likely tanking your e2 with 100mg of eq.

Again, 18 years old, you need a cycle of food and heavy lifting, nothing more.
@LevButlerov @s.gentz @Allupfromhere

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appreciate it

 

[Allupfromhere]

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appreciate it

Brother at 18 your brain hasn't even biologically matured and developed. What you setting out to do can have a significant negative impact on that.

What you would like to do and what you should be doing are to extremely different situations. Your age shining through here with this statement.

Put up a photo of your physique and blur your face for privacy bro. Lets see you base

 

[Dreamer]

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appreciate it

Your not fond of IM needles - you realise the path your choosing requires them for life right?
You might think this is gatekeeping or harsh, but even the dosages your proposing are dumb, have you done bloods? why even add eq? what are you hoping to gain? You probably do have a good physique - anyone who is 18 and goes to the gym should.


i will be clearer - eq sub is not great, daily prop sub q aswell will cause irritated lumps. It just isnt optimal, can you sub q oils sure - should you, no not really.

 

[eloethe1488]

Your 18, this is a terrible idea, the doses are wrong anyway, you would be barely replacing your natural t at 150mg being 18 and then likely tanking your e2 with 100mg of eq.

Again, 18 years old, you need a cycle of food and heavy lifting, nothing more.
@LevButlerov @s.gentz @Allupfromhere

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appre

Brother at 18 your brain hasn't even biologically matured and developed. What you setting out to do can have a significant negative impact on that.

Put up a photo of your physique and blur your face for privacy bro. Lets see you base

alright mate lmk:
Natty besides a few peptides n such

 

[Dreamer]

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appre

alright mate lmk:
Natty besides a few peptides n such

I dont mean this offensively at all, please dont take it as such, because you are lean yes, and you look good, but your skinny and need to pump food - gear isnt the answer here.

 

[eloethe1488]

Your not fond of IM needles - you realise the path your choosing requires them for life right?
You might think this is gatekeeping or harsh, but even the dosages your proposing are dumb, have you done bloods? why even add eq? what are you hoping to gain? You probably do have a good physique - anyone who is 18 and goes to the gym should.


i will be clearer - eq sub is not great, daily prop sub q aswell will cause irritated lumps. It just isnt optimal, can you sub q oils sure - should you, no not really.

 

[eloethe1488]

If i have to use IM needles then so be it, im here for advice mate thats why i posted on this forum,i didnt commit to the cycle or buy gear already its more of a blueprint to when i start my first cycle. And yes i do get bloodwork done and i have a doctor to consult.
(Also excuse me if im coming off as rude, im just trying to make my intentions clear, i really do appreciate your advice and taking the time to talk)

 

[eloethe1488]

I dont mean this offensively at all, please dont take it as such, because you are lean yes, and you look good, but your skinny and need to pump food - gear isnt the answer here.

im using the test to masculinize my face and to get a better frame, im short i don't want to get big and look ridiculous. I shouldve made my goals clearer

 

[Allupfromhere]

You look good, bro, but gear doesn’t make you grow. It creates an environment to better utilise food if the training stimulus and intake are there.

If you’re not growing anymore, it’s not because you need more drugs, it’s because you’re not eating enough or not pushing the right areas hard enough. Gear does not change that rule.

What it will do is fuck your HPTA axis and potentially cause issues you don’t even understand yet.

I’m not trying to beat you down, but you’re 18 and looking for a shortcut because you can’t be fucked squeezing progress out of the basics that actually build size. Food, consistency, and hard training are still the gatekeepers, no compound skips that.

Earn the size first.

Don’t trade your long-term health for impatience.

 

[Smallbutmighty]

I'm a noob to this myself but that cycle makes no sense. Test p is a quick in and quick out ester and EQ needs a long cycle to be beneficial. On top of that Prob sub q can welt up pretty bad.

With that said pls don't do anything until you're 25.
Maybe proviron idk

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hello gentlemen, i am ready to start a cycle in the upcoming months i just want to know if this sounds wack to anyone, first off its all SUBQ which i know might be looked down upon but ive looked at many forums and i feel as if its a vaild option. (Im not too fond of IM needles) Okay so as a lean 18yr old, i was thinking to run 150mg or so test P a week with every day subQ injections alongside 100mg Boldenone undec a week SUBq with around 5+ injections a week. When i up my doses im gonna move up to IM needles but how does this look for the doses i was considering?

First off when you start your first cycle in a few years in your mid 20's don't do subQ.
Second, at your age having just turned 18 you will get steroid like gains by doubling your current calorie intake and protein too along with increasing your training intensity.

If you're "not too fond" of IM then you're not ready for a cycle.

Running 150mg Test and 100mg EQ will only serve to crash your estrogen and shut down your HPTA while only providing you with TRT. Once you come off and IF your HPTA restores you'll have to deal with months of having low natural T levels. If you ever want to be a Dad then you could possibly (albeit rare) ruin your chances at staying fertile.

The red flags about this cycle including your age are all over the place.

Where did you come up with a TRT dose and adding EQ on top of that at a 1.5:1 ratio as being a 'cycle'?

If you're answer shopping then all this advice won't sink in but I urge you to heed the advice of myself and every other person whose responded that adding hormones to your body now when it's at it's natural peak levels will only hurt you and not help you.

You also need to bulk up hard with calories and protein and forget about being so lean at the moment. Now is the time to put on muscle naturally with food and training, sleep and supplements, peptides and digestion aids, etc.

 

[Allupfromhere]

First off when you start your first cycle in a few years in your mid 20's don't do subQ.
Second, at your age having just turned 18 you will get steroid like gains by doubling your current calorie intake and protein too along with increasing your training intensity.

If you're "not too fond" of IM then you're not ready for a cycle.

Running 150mg Test and 100mg EQ will only serve to crash your estrogen and shut down your HPTA while only providing you with TRT. Once you come off and IF your HPTA restores you'll have to deal with months of having low natural T levels. If you ever want to be a Dad then you could possibly (albeit rare) ruin your chances at staying fertile.

The red flags about this cycle including your age are all over the place.

Where did you come up with a TRT dose and adding EQ on top of that at a 1.5:1 ratio as being a 'cycle'?

If you're answer shopping then all this advice won't sink in but I urge you to heed the advice of myself and every other person whose responded that adding hormones to your body now when it's at it's natural peak levels will only hurt you and not help you.

You also need to bulk up hard with calories and protein and forget about being so lean at the moment. Now is the time to put on muscle naturally with food and training, sleep and supplements, peptides and digestion aids, etc.

Absolute nail on the head bro...

However you and me have seen this all too often lately, we both know its going in one ear out the other.
At the end of the day they refuse help because they know best right... thats why they come here

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello gentlemen, i am ready to start a cycle in the upcoming months i just want to know if this sounds wack to anyone, first off its all SUBQ which i know might be looked down upon but ive looked at many forums and i feel as if its a vaild option. (Im not too fond of IM needles) Okay so as a lean 18yr old, i was thinking to run 150mg or so test P a week with every day subQ injections alongside 100mg Boldenone undec a week SUBq with around 5+ injections a week. When i up my doses im gonna move up to IM needles but how does this look for the doses i was considering?

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appreciate it

I have a good physique and diet already, been training for 3 years. I would like to start now, thank you for advice though i really appre

alright mate lmk:
Natty besides a few peptides n such

welcome to the EVO family @eloethe1488 you're 18 without blood work, doing a cycle is really a bad idea but I suspect you knew this already.

before you do any gear, you need to get blood work done, do you know how to do it?