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Hey, I've been taking 300mg's of B6, and .25mg's of Pramipexole ED as well. I will be gradually upping my dose of prami, but I'm going to keep the B6 between 300-400mg's. Personally, from my own research I wouldn't run B6 any higher than what I'm taking. With that being said, I'm also using prami to combat sides from a 19-nor steriod. There's a ton of research and studies on B6 dosing, I'm not fully confident in just using B6 to prevent sides from these powerful agents such as Tren and Deca. That's why I'm taking prami, or if you can get you hands on cabergoline. Everyone reacts differently to these compounds, but at the end of the day I think you should go into your cycle with more than just B6 on hand... Just my one cent.
300mg is plenty but remember that you will still want to run caber with tren. Dose at .5mg e3d. What does your cycle dosing look like and supports/pct?
Oh yeah, I already have plenty of caber and armidex on hand and will be using both. I just wanted some clarification with respect to high doses of B-6 because I seem to recall reading somewhere that high doses of B-6 can induce severe headaches. But you say that you consume approximately 350mgs per day, eh, drillbittim? All right. Sounds great. Thank you.
300mgs it will be.
I thought that I would go with the following weekly doses:
600mgs Test C,
300mgs Tren E
300mgs EQ
.5mgs caber (e 3days) along with Liv.52, Milk thistle and 5-6 liters of water.
PCT:
Forma (beginning day 1 of PCT)
Clomid (beginning 19 days after last pin)
Nolva (if I feel as though I will need it)
What do you think?
You'll get varying opinions on the test to tren ratio. I have a tren cycle coming up where I will probably run a 500 test/400 tren ratio. As for EQ, my last cycle I ran it for 18 weeks at 600mg's. I saw very good results and felt amazing, with a ton of endurance. Not to say that it can't be dosed lower though, this is just my personal experience with it.
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Also 0.25-0.5mg arimidex ED/EOD. Dont forget that one, buddy
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Overall, the cycle is looking good. However, the PCT looks kinda slim to me. It would be a wise idea to add in there some good natty test booster and a SARM in order to preserve the mass gains.
Whoops! As mentioned above, I also have a lot of armiidex at hand. I just neglected to mention that fact while laying out my upcoming cycle. But thank you very much just the same, Jay.
Don't just have it one hand. Use it with day one of your cycle.
All right. Thank you.
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All right. Since I'm not all that prone to gyno, what do you think about .25mgs EOD?
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This could work for a beginning, but it is never a good idea to play games. Therefore, start with 0.25 mgs EOD, and then in the middle of the cycle do blood work, and check out the estrogen levels. If they will not be overly elevated, then keep the dosage, and if estrogen levels will be increased, then you will need to bump the dosage to 0.5 mgs EOD. It is the ideal thing to do.
I agree 100%. .25mg EOD is still a low dose of most people. And remember that just because you have not had side effects in the past does not mean they won't creep up this time. A lot of guys don't "feel" high estrogen either. Blood work is very important.
0.25mg EOD is a very low dosage. I would do 0.5mg EOD on cycle. 0.25mg EOD on TRT.
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AT LEAST. The thing is, its better to have too low estro, than too high, milder sides and easier to fix
Masonic Bodybuilder: "300mg is plenty but remember that you will still want to run caber with tren. Dose at .5mg e3d. What does your cycle dosing look like and supports/pct?"
Update: It just now dawned on me that I have 50mls of Sustanon 250 in my stash. So I'm thinking that maybe I should kickstart the cycle listed above with, say, 600mgs of Sust per week for the first three weeks and then 600mgs of Test C for the remaining nine weeks. Any thoughts, towers of AAS knowledge?
Update: It just now dawned on me that I have 50mls of Sustanon 250 in my stash. So I'm thinking that maybe I should kickstart the cycle listed above with, say, 600mgs of Sust per week for the first three weeks and then 600mgs of Test C for the remaining nine weeks. Any thoughts, towers of AAS knowledge?
SUST and Test C are basically interchangeable. SUST has a short, but mostly long esters. If you are going to use both then yes, I would use the SUST first as the short ester will kick in first. For the actual planned cycle, I would make sure to add an AI like aromasin at 12.5mg EOD to control estrogen. Start that from Day 1. Also, Your PCT is incomplete. I would run the Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/ The only other recommendation I would have is to run Cardarine at 20mg throughout your cycle. This will help counter the negative effects tren has on cardio.
Thank you so much, Masonic.
I have 90 1.0g caber tablets on hand which I will be using throughout the cycle as well as during PCT. I do not have any aromasin but I could probably make a trade for some, should I run it, too? I know that I could make a trade for some Cardarine. But what is your opinion of the controversy surrounding Cardarine being a possible carcinogen?
I ordered a round of The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy from the source you often mention. I expect to receive it within the week.
Thank you again.
bro this topic has been discussed to death (no pun intended)...
read
http://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer
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Its better to have it on hand at all times. Personally, I would never get near a cycle without access to AI
You want to use both aromasin and cardarine with your cycle. DO NOT run a cycle without an AI. That is asking for estrogen related side effects like gyno.
You can order aromasin from ag-guys.com
Anything run that high of a dose will kill you, lol. This study was a complete joke.
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These mice in the experiment were given some ridiculous amounts of cardarine, such big amounts that it would hard for anyone to take such a dosage just once, let alone on a regular basis for a long time. You know, aspirin can kill you of overdosed, and it can do so literally and really fast. There is even an expression in Russia - everything is poison, everything is medicine - only the dosage differs.
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Thank you so much, Masonic.
I have 90 1.0g caber tablets on hand which I will be using throughout the cycle as well as during PCT. I do not have any aromasin but I could probably make a trade for some, should I run it, too? I know that I could make a trade for some Cardarine. But what is your opinion of the controversy surrounding Cardarine being a possible carcinogen?
I ordered a round of The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy from the source you often mention. I expect to receive it within the week.
Thank you again.
Masonic: "Its better to have it on hand at all times. Personally, I would never get near a cycle without access to AI."
Done! I ordered a grip of Cardarine and, in the meantime, I traded some Test for a couple of months worth of Cardarine. Now, for the twelve week cutting cycle that I began yesterday, I have anastrozle, Cardarine, caber, clomid and nolva. I thank you all for your assistance.
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That's what I had thought.
Thank you so much, Masonic.
I have 90 1.0g caber tablets on hand which I will be using throughout the cycle as well as during PCT. I do not have any aromasin but I could probably make a trade for some, should I run it, too? I know that I could make a trade for some Cardarine. But what is your opinion of the controversy surrounding Cardarine being a possible carcinogen?
I ordered a round of The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy from the source you often mention. I expect to receive it within the week.
Thank you again.
Masonic: "Its better to have it on hand at all times. Personally, I would never get near a cycle without access to AI."
Done! I ordered a grip of Cardarine and, in the meantime, I traded some Test for a couple of months worth of Cardarine. Now, for the twelve week cutting cycle that I began yesterday, I have anastrozle, Cardarine, caber, clomid and nolva. I thank you all for your assistance.
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That's what I had thought.
Glad you got everything you need! We are always here to help buddy.
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