best recomp/cut stack

[lobos]

Im currently on 250mg of test a week (on week 4)
4mg of reta
15mg GLOW
50mg Mots-C

I was thinking of adding winstrol, and primo for the recomp

what would be the best dosage? and also, what are some PED's you would add or remove? (please provide doseages as well, thank you!!)

6'1 198lbs 21.2% body fat

 

[lobos]

Current pics as of 4/21 (the gyno ive had since puberty)

 

[G-Merc 80]

Hey Mate,

Welcome to Evo, quick one on MOTS-C, 50mg per week or 500mcg per day or on workout days?
How long have you been on Reta for? can i suggest putting up your workout plan and your daily food intake plan and how you are tracking this.

 

[lobos]

Hey Mate,

Welcome to Evo, quick one on MOTS-C, 50mg per week or 500mcg per day or on workout days?
How long have you been on Reta for? can i suggest putting up your workout plan and your daily food intake plan and how you are tracking this.

50mg per week and Ive been on Reta since March 23, took a week break off the reta and before that was February 2nd

 

[G-Merc 80]

50mg per week and Ive been on Reta since March 23, took a week break off the reta and before that was February 2nd

@HarleyGuy is the guru on MOTS-C and dosing, 50mg is on the higher end.

Before adding in advice on PEDs/PEPs have you had any blood work done, what experience have you had in the past, any supporting supplements in your plan
@LevButlerov

 

[lobos]

@HarleyGuy is the guru on MOTS-C and dosing, 50mg is on the higher end.

Before adding in advice on PEDs/PEPs have you had any blood work done, what experience have you had in the past, any supporting supplements in your plan
@LevButlerov

yes sir, my bloods are good & supporting supplements right now are zinc, potassium, magnesium, fish oil, vitamin b12 and D3

also, this is my first cycle test only.. i def want to get more information on either possibly adding to this current cycle or what would be best for my next cycle

 

[CookieBaah]

50mg a week MOTS-C??
That's a whallop,

How'd you end up on that amount

 

[Nasser1997o2]

yes sir, my bloods are good & supporting supplements right now are zinc, potassium, magnesium, fish oil, vitamin b12 and D3

also, this is my first cycle test only.. i def want to get more information on either possibly adding to this current cycle or what would be best for my next cycle

The concept of running “cycles” is an outdated approach.

Going on, then off, then on, then off is a great way to run around in circles.

Depending on how old you are, you are better on using testosterone replace therapy as a baselines and then depending on your bloodwork, having periods that you escalate doses until bloodwork becomes an issue and then drop down back to trt.

No particular steroids is a “cutter” or “bulker”

It comes down to caloric intake

 

[Yuri]

The concept of running “cycles” is an outdated approach.

Going on, then off, then on, then off is a great way to run around in circles.

Depending on how old you are, you are better on using testosterone replace therapy as a baselines and then depending on your bloodwork, having periods that you escalate doses until bloodwork becomes an issue and then drop down back to trt.

No particular steroids is a “cutter” or “bulker”

It comes down to caloric intake

Well said indeed!

The most important part of your fat loss phase is going to be your nutrition and timeframe set out to achieve this brother

I’d suggest a long and well planed fat loss phase to be honest, a testosterone base an saying health will achieve this

Do reach out of you have questions @lobos

 

[HarleyGuy]

50mg per week and Ive been on Reta since March 23, took a week break off the reta and before that was February 2nd

Welcome to EVO @lobos. I’m mobile right now but will give you the how-to on starting a log for us soon. We will need a log with all your stats and info with daily and weekly updates including bloodwork to dial in what compounds and dosages are best for you at the moment.

Regarding your MOTS-c dose: It would be the highest dose we’ve seen here as the current dosing of EVO membership ranges from 1mg-20mg. I’m not sure how you’re dosing 50mg ED either because the highest I’ve seen MOTS-c come in are vials of 40mg.

How do you feel on 50mg and how long have you been running this dose?

We have a Community Research megathread on MOTS-c here MOTS-C Peptide - Overview, Dosing, and Reviews. You should take a look at it.

 

[lobos]

Lmaoo I apologize, I meant 50 units of Mots-C

Also, my diet is locked in. I started at 230lbs in January

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lmaoo I apologize, I meant 50 units of Mots-C

Also, my diet is locked in. I started at 230lbs in January

50 units still doesn't mean anything if we don't know your vial dosing or # of ml of Bac water used to reconstitute. Please advise.

 

[lobos]

50 units still doesn't mean anything if we don't know your vial dosing or # of ml of Bac water used to reconstitute. Please advise.

MOTS-C 10MG: Mix with 1mL (100 units) of BAC water
Take 50 units/5mg (same regardless of vial size) once every 5 days, for 40-80 days

per researchdosing.com, website provided by the peptide distributor

 

[bss]

Im currently on 250mg of test a week (on week 4)
4mg of reta
15mg GLOW
50mg Mots-C

I was thinking of adding winstrol, and primo for the recomp

what would be the best dosage? and also, what are some PED's you would add or remove? (please provide doseages as well, thank you!!)

6'1 198lbs 21.2% body fat

def not winstrol nor primo, plus you seem to already have gyno so I would stay away from oils if I was you GL

 

[lobos]

def not winstrol nor primo, plus you seem to already have gyno so I would stay away from oils if I was you GL

any suggestions? im all ears

im open to HGH, would that be beneficial for a recomp?

 

[J smooth]

How are you feeling so far 4 weeks into 250mg test per week? How often you pinning.

 

[lobos]

How are you feeling so far 4 weeks into 250mg test per week? How often you pinning.

i feel amazing, im not even going to lie to you & im pinning 2x a week but this week im aiming for 3x (M/W/S) for steadier levels and titrating up to 300mg

 

[bss]

any suggestions? im all ears

im open to HGH, would that be beneficial for a recomp?

Nah HGH too early mate, finish this cycle first, your reta plus deficit has you dropping weight fine already. Patience is key brother, it's not a sprint is a marathon.

Reta 4mg is a solid middle dose dont push it any higher imo, split that MOTS into 2x 2.5mg weekly, and GLOW works better as daily 1-2mg subq pins.

For your gyno I would get a blood panel first done and also run an AI either aromasin 12.5mg EOD or adex 0.5mg 2x/wk does the job

 

[lobos]

Nah HGH too early mate, finish this cycle first, your reta plus deficit has you dropping weight fine already. Patience is key brother, it's not a sprint is a marathon.

Reta 4mg is a solid middle dose dont push it any higher imo, split that MOTS into 2x 2.5mg weekly, and GLOW works better as daily 1-2mg subq pins.

For your gyno I would get a blood panel first done and also run an AI either aromasin 12.5mg EOD or adex 0.5mg 2x/wk does the job

thanks man, i appreciate that

 

[Demon_throne]

current dosing of EVO membership ranges from 1mg-20mg.

I was running 28mg weekly remember 4mg daily.