Blood Test Results - Robolics Test C!

[the.gladiator1987]

I'm on pro form and I'll definitely be running blood work mid way to see my levels. I'll be on 750mg test and 500mg deca

Sorry about the bad news about robolics bro . How were ur gains? Weight and strength?

 

[Felicity]

Wow 1 gram of test per week and a total serum of 2300...that is awful. Robo obviously is not legit at all cause those scores should be around the 8000 range easy! At a gram a week to get a score like that I would assume robo's test to be about 30% purity or less. That's crap

I've said it 100 times at least. People have no idea if they're injecting quality gear or not. To leave it up to an individual and not get mass spec testing done is reckless insanity.

 

[Lunchbox]

He said "like" 6 days. Ester would still be in full swing.

Absolutely.

I am sorry my friend but from the information you have given that gear is underdosed. It is impossible to tell you how underdosed it is since you had frequent injections but to give you and idea...

Day - 1 600mg
Day - 3 300mg
Day - 7 600mg
Day - 14 600mg
Day - 21 600mg
Day - 28 Blood Drawn

This has netted me 2100 - 2400 ng/dl over my base line 167ng/dl on multiple occasions.

 

[RunLiftFight]

Well shit. Ugh I feel like shit. I went through over 100 pins with Robo Gear
Guess I should've got my blood drawn way before this.
At one point I was taking their test E. Maybe their supplier gave them shitty test C powder?
I am not tryin to bash em since I want to think maybe it wasn't their fault but this is all really heavy to me.

 

[diesel707]

I've said it 100 times at least. People have no idea if they're injecting quality gear or not. To leave it up to an individual and not get mass spec testing done is reckless insanity.

Exactly it's always just word of mouth now cause someone says a lab has good gear but what people don't get is the person bragging about the lab is also get kickbacks for bragging about it and inexperienced people believing it. Sad to see honestly.

 

[RunLiftFight]

Well I was given a referral to a different lab -> AY.
(sigh)
Would this be a better route? Could someone pm me with some help?

Maybe I should just quit.
Seriously thinking of quitting lol.

 

[diesel707]

Well I was given a referral to a different lab -> AY.
(sigh)
Would this be a better route? Could someone pm me with some help?

Maybe I should just quit.
Seriously thinking of quitting lol.

AY is very good quality gear. Always in the 90's as far as purity goes. 300mg of their test will equal 1000mg of robo apparently

 

[RunLiftFight]

Thanks Diesel. Guess I have some homework to do and will have to think some things over.

Btw I just wanted to say that I honestly thought my blood test results were reflecting Robo was legit and gtg. I thought my post would be another +1 review for them I DID NOT want to bash them or anything. It just sucks to learn that actually the gear was underdosed and whatnot. I still want to believe they are good people and maybe something just went wrong with some supplier or something.

Thanks for the help everyone though. Peace.

 

[Johnnyboy_14]

Thanks for sharing your info. It was good discussion. Lets just hope it was a batch of bad gear as ive heard good things about robo

 

[fortitude18]

lets just hope there not selective scamming going on.....I have been on 125 mg robo test a week for 3 months....TRT does.....My test was 820 and off trt I am usually 350 to 400.....This was just 2 months ago.....Could it be your body just not ready to use that much test?????I am not sure that is possible but I wonder

 

[sullerson]

Blood work helps keeps the sources honest. Everyone should be doing pre, mid cycle, and post cycle blood work regardless to make sure their health is in good standings.

 

[jerseydevil]

OP, so 2 shots of 425mg e3d. Am I understanding you waited 6 days after the last 425mg inject to have blood drawn?

 

[EER]

 

[jerseydevil]

Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone Cypionate Injection

Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.


Reference http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

According to this landmark study these are the mean averages of testosterone in healthy men (check out table 2)


The mean avg for 125 mg/wk was 570 ± 75
The mean avg for 300 mg/wk 1,345 ± 139
The mean avg for 600 mg/wk 2,370 ± 150

Where are you guys are coming up with 2,300ng/dl with only 100mg/wk or even 200mg/wk I don't have a clue.

Also the chart above clearly demonstrates how important the timing is, look at the level at 3 days and then 6 days. It is HALF.

So I'm going against the grain here, and if the OP confirms he waited 6 days after a 425mg injection (250 x 1.7 =425) then I'm going say this gear is no where near as underdosed as everyone is thinking. btw, the true protocol is to do 1 weekly injection, then have blood drawn exactly 7 days later. But, if you inject twice weekly (half the amount of course) then have blood drawn 3.5 days later the result will be very close to the same.

Just so you know both Watson and AY test-e get me right in the 950-1,000ng/dl range with a weekly 200mg injection. A gram of test puts me at slightly over 5,000ng/dl, which falls right in the range this study came up with (interpole 125 and 300 = 213). If 600mg gets one to 2,370, no way 400 more is going to get you to 8,000ng/dl.

I think OP should have this test redone after running a once weekly injection of 600mg/wk for at least 3 weeks.

 

[Lunchbox]

Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone Cypionate Injection

Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.


Reference http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

According to this landmark study these are the mean averages of testosterone in healthy men (check out table 2)


The mean avg for 125 mg/wk was 570 ± 75
The mean avg for 300 mg/wk1,345 ± 139
The mean avg for 600 mg/wk 2,370 ± 150

Where you guys are coming up with 2,300ng/dl with only 100mg/wk or even 200mg/wk I don't have a clue.

Also the chart above clearly demonstrates how important the timing is, look at the level at 3 days and then 6 days. It is HALF.

So I'm going against the grain here, and if the OP confirms he waited 6 days after a 425mg injection (250 x 1.7 =425) then I'm going say this gear is no where near as underdosed as everyone is thinking. btw, the true protocol is to do 1 weekly injection, then have blood drawn exactly 7 days later. But, if you inject twice weekly (half the amount of course) then have blood drawn 3.5 days later the result will be very close to the same.

Just so you know both Watson and AY test-e get me right in the 950-1,000ng/dl range with a weekly 200mg injection. A gram of test puts me at slightly over 5,000ng/dl, which falls right in the range this study came up with (interpole 125 and 300 = 213). If 600mg gets one to 2,370, no way 400 more is going to get you to 8,000ng/dl.

I think OP should have this test redone after running a once weekly injection of 600mg/wk for at least 3 weeks.

If he wants to know for a fact...

Day 1 - 600mg
Day 3 - 300mg
Day 7 - 600mg
Day 14 - 600mg
Day 21 - 600mg
Day 28 - have blood drawn and tested.

Results should be similar to this.

 

[Lunchbox]

Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone Cypionate Injection

Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.


Reference http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

According to this landmark study these are the mean averages of testosterone in healthy men (check out table 2)


The mean avg for 125 mg/wk was 570 ± 75
The mean avg for 300 mg/wk1,345 ± 139
The mean avg for 600 mg/wk 2,370 ± 150

Where you guys are coming up with 2,300ng/dl with only 100mg/wk or even 200mg/wk I don't have a clue.

Also the chart above clearly demonstrates how important the timing is, look at the level at 3 days and then 6 days. It is HALF.

So I'm going against the grain here, and if the OP confirms he waited 6 days after a 425mg injection (250 x 1.7 =425) then I'm going say this gear is no where near as underdosed as everyone is thinking. btw, the true protocol is to do 1 weekly injection, then have blood drawn exactly 7 days later. But, if you inject twice weekly (half the amount of course) then have blood drawn 3.5 days later the result will be very close to the same.

Just so you know both Watson and AY test-e get me right in the 950-1,000ng/dl range with a weekly 200mg injection. A gram of test puts me at slightly over 5,000ng/dl, which falls right in the range this study came up with (interpole 125 and 300 = 213). If 600mg gets one to 2,370, no way 400 more is going to get you to 8,000ng/dl.

I think OP should have this test redone after running a once weekly injection of 600mg/wk for at least 3 weeks.

Also JD - Because he did E3D injections he reasonably had 425mg of hormone in his bloodstream at 70%, 45% and 15% of baseline.

So in all honestly there is no way to be sure unless he runs actual proven protocol testing. It's all just a bunch of broscience until then.

I think though it may be slightly low considering the frequency of the shots... And then I the other hand E3D is not truly a Gram a week.

BAH!! Lmao Run a proper protocol OP then you will know for sure!

Good luck

 

[-SD-]

I have way too much repeat business for my gear to be underdosed.

 

[-SD-]

Well shit. Ugh I feel like shit. I went through over 100 pins with Robo Gear
Guess I should've got my blood drawn way before this.
At one point I was taking their test E. Maybe their supplier gave them shitty test C powder?
I am not tryin to bash em since I want to think maybe it wasn't their fault but this is all really heavy to me.

when did you buy? there was a supplier issue which has been resolved since (that supplier no longer used)

 

[RunLiftFight]

I will check my email now to nail down exactly when my last order was SD
Again, I cannot stress enough that I made my original post to just share my bloodwork I spent $80 on that shows my high test levels.

Straight up, I am a noob with gear technically. I didn't expect someone to reply like "pff I get that off 100/mg a week".. You know what I mean?

Another thing I am going to do is ask my girlfriend to look at the calendar in her phone. She kept track of my shots and exactly when my bloodwork got drawn. When I made the reply on this post I was going off the best off what I could recall.

 

[RunLiftFight]

Ok the reason I say 1g a week is with the logic below

I was using gear that was 250 mg / ML

I did Every 3 Day Shots @ 1.7 CC
1.7ML X 250MG = 425 mg
Which is 850 MG in 6 day period

This is over a gram a week technically.

My E3D protocol was because I was aiming for more steady levels.
If a guy was doing shots just Monday /Friday (vs E3D) he would do 2 CC each shot to achieve 1 G/w

After a month that person would of course have 4 weeks of this totalling 4 G of gear over 8 shots

Now If I did my E3D shots with 2 CCs, I would end up injecting technically OVER 1g a week. After doing this for one month I would have performed 10 shots of the same amount. I'd get an extra gram of gear in my system over.

1.7ML e3d is tecnically 991.66 mg a week of test
correct me if I am wrong

btw I will try to address all questions that have been asked. sorry I didn't think this thread would turn into this situation.