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I came across a thread on Meso saying bwl had dirty vials.I've read nothing but god things about them on here. Guys that have experience with bwl chime in please.
 
There was a Guy claiming to be BWL a while back selling Junk.
Z took care of a lot of Guys who Got Burnt by that Asshole.............................. JP
 
Z will see this and explain. He took care of the issue and is moving foward. I got bloods done recently from BWL test e at 9 weeks on 750 a week. Test came back 8108. And my test 5 weeks ago i was on BwL test p and test e and it came back 8597. So the numbers are really strong.
 
Not trying to be a dick here guys, but the nut sack hair in the vial is way out of line. I know he came back and said he was having help with production but it's still something that don't need to be looked over. I have nothing against the guy personally and the numbers were amazing for an ugl but trey could of ended up in the hospital over that and That would of been very very bad.
 
I completely understand your concern. Other vials in the same batch may not have ended up with a hair in them but I can't imagine they were filtered properly. I feel like the issue was swept under the rug and at this point we can only use this information to make a personal decision as to whether or not we will choose to use this source or not.
 
I completely understand your concern. Other vials in the same batch may not have ended up with a hair in them but I can't imagine they were filtered properly. I feel like the issue was swept under the rug and at this point we can only use this information to make a personal decision as to whether or not we will choose to use this source or not.

Oh for sure, anyone has the right to use whoever they want. I know if I feel safe with a source I'll use the no matter if someone else says they are or not. I guess what I was getting at is if sources are going to get banned for not being at their best and have threads lock and not be able to come back on they should all be treated that way and dirty gear is a number one reason to get banned in my book.
 
Oh for sure, anyone has the right to use whoever they want. I know if I feel safe with a source I'll use the no matter if someone else says they are or not. I guess what I was getting at is if sources are going to get banned for not being at their best and have threads lock and not be able to come back on they should all be treated that way and dirty gear is a number one reason to get banned in my book.

I'm with ya bro. I was agreeing with you.
 
Oh for sure, anyone has the right to use whoever they want. I know if I feel safe with a source I'll use the no matter if someone else says they are or not. I guess what I was getting at is if sources are going to get banned for not being at their best and have threads lock and not be able to come back on they should all be treated that way and dirty gear is a number one reason to get banned in my book.

I'm with ya bro. I was agreeing with you.
 
Lol. Damn it. No emotion in text! Lol

I hate trying to figure out what someone is meaning in these post lol. I usually know when someone is bein a dick or trying to start shit but sometimes I'm wrong and i look like the bad guy... Oh well can't win them all lol.
 
I hate trying to figure out what someone is meaning in these post lol. I usually know when someone is bein a dick or trying to start shit but sometimes I'm wrong and i look like the bad guy... Oh well can't win them all lol.

When I say I love you.. How do you interpret that.
 
When you say you love me your just trying to get in my pants :( but i still love you bro! You only want me for my lbb

Haha you keep lifting and you'll no longer have that lbb.. I'll be all lbb alone..

I'll be home after 6..alone. I got some franzia in the cooler. L
 
When you say you love me your just trying to get in my pants :( but i still love you bro! You only want me for my lbb

Haha you keep lifting and you'll no longer have that lbb.. I'll be all lbb alone..

I'll be home after 6..alone. I got some franzia in the cooler. L
 
Haha you keep lifting and you'll no longer have that lbb.. I'll be all lbb alone..

I'll be home after 6..alone. I got some franzia in the cooler. L

To hell with that I'm going for that aids look, I want to be about 115 pounds. I swear man how can these people look at Justin bieber and think he has a built body lol.
 
To hell with that I'm going for that aids look, I want to be about 115 pounds. I swear man how can these people look at Justin bieber and think he has a built body lol.

Bro beebs not even got the lbb.. That boy has the chemotherapy body.. Lol they LCB.. Little chemo body lol
 
To hell with that I'm going for that aids look, I want to be about 115 pounds. I swear man how can these people look at Justin bieber and think he has a built body lol.

Bro beebs not even got the lbb.. That boy has the chemotherapy body.. Lol they LCB.. Little chemo body lol
 
Bro beebs not even got the lbb.. That boy has the chemotherapy body.. Lol they LCB.. Little chemo body lol

I was watching tv and some gay as talk show came on and they showed a picture he put up of him naked and his ass was showing. They went crazy over it, i mean no homo but fuck me surely girls want better than that. I mean surely they would rather have a man not a 12 year old girl lol, oh well that's what the worlds coming to.
 
So has only one person stepped up on here with talks of hairs in bottles? I had my issues with bwl, I got new product but quality control was the issue. It was a time that Z had other people helping him before also. I guess sometimes if you want it done right, do it yourself
 
Hey it really personal preference from here on out. Some guys are totally disgusted with what happened and how it took for an explanation. There are others that have been loyal customers and will see this as just a hiccup, either way life goes on lol
 
So glad I have a rock solid source that has been around for a long time, and don't have to even think twice about my gear.
 
I talked to Z a lot about all of this and he said he let others help out cause he had a lot goin on. So he said he is no longer letting anyone help brew or anything. Its back like it use to be just him and him alone. He did take care of the mess up and write my a long email apologizing. Im a good hearted guy . I know it was a bad mess up but i still know my numbers from blood test while on his gear are some of the best on Evo. He assured me nothing like this would EVER happen again. I know some people will down me for taking up for him but i think everyone deserves a 2nd chance. I know i wouldnt be here if it wasnt for 2nd and 3rd chances haha.
 
there are many things that can go wrong, and when something does it dont matter how good your name was they will remember the bad, we fixed the issue, and we wish he would have found the hair before you actually used the product, i did have help and that is no longer the way it is now.
everyone says that a worthy ban and if so thats fine i know i cant log in other ways. but hey, if you wanna talk about contamination PSL is in the same issue and with crap in there gear, and there is a topic on that now, everyone say good job for taking car of the issue to them but still hate, when its from another lab, so if one rule sticks it should be for all. i also took care of the issue.

im not saying it wasnt bad as thats the reason i started in this line of work because i found a hair, it grossed me out.
 
I'm simply saying if these other sources got banned for nothing, why should bwls or psl be allowed here when something like this happens. I'm not putting you down as a person but be real, do you think you should be held to a different standard than others because you say it won't happen again when some other sources got banned for little to nothing or for no real reason. I think trey's numbers are amazing but my point is how fair is it to us the members to be told one sources is bad and gets banned with no reason then you get to be here even tho you had a hair in your vial. I think what happened with psl is fucked up and the fact they said it was ok to use that's really fucked up but this ain't a psl thread it's a bwls thread, so call it what you want in my opinion like iv said if a source gets banned for breaking the rules then the other sources should as well.
 
I talked to Z a lot about all of this and he said he let others help out cause he had a lot goin on. So he said he is no longer letting anyone help brew or anything. Its back like it use to be just him and him alone. He did take care of the mess up and write my a long email apologizing. Im a good hearted guy . I know it was a bad mess up but i still know my numbers from blood test while on his gear are some of the best on Evo. He assured me nothing like this would EVER happen again. I know some people will down me for taking up for him but i think everyone deserves a 2nd chance. I know i wouldnt be here if it wasnt for 2nd and 3rd chances haha.

Bro you have every right to post your opinion on how you feel about it no one can hate on you for that. I just feel if they are going to kick sources on the first strike then no source should be overlooked or have a pass.
 
no i do agree with you and as i said if i get banned then i do, i said it was my fault as i should have been following better with what was going on, i dont know who has got banned and who hasnt as you and i both know i havent been on her a lot so i havent been following to closely, as i have stated, in every post it is my fuck up, and bad for my lab, only person who can change that is me by quality control, and if people don't want to use me for that i understand. i have no hard feeling for anyone here and yes safety comes first and clean, and that showed that protocol wasn't being followed.
 
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I'm simply saying if these other sources got banned for nothing, why should bwls or psl be allowed here when something like this happens. I'm not putting you down as a person but be real, do you think you should be held to a different standard than others because you say it won't happen again when some other sources got banned for little to nothing or for no real reason. I think trey's numbers are amazing but my point is how fair is it to us the members to be told one sources is bad and gets banned with no reason then you get to be here even tho you had a hair in your vial. I think what happened with psl is fucked up and the fact they said it was ok to use that's really fucked up but this ain't a psl thread it's a bwls thread, so call it what you want in my opinion like iv said if a source gets banned for breaking the rules then the other sources should as well.
Not sayin right or wrong here but other sources got banned for not delivering on time, lack of communication, or infractions of that nature. BWL has been upfront about it and owned up to it. Z did not leave Trey hanging. The hair is a huge no no for sure. Did Z tuck tail and run out? No. He is taking shots from the community and rightfully he should be. He is trying to make it right. Does this mean he should be welcomed back with open arms? The answer is no. He needs to keep taking his licks from guys like you and earn his way back into the community. It will Z's actions during and after all this that will determine his worth in this community.
 
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Not sayin right or wrong here but other sources got banned for not delivering on time, lack of communication, or infractions of that nature. BWL has been upfront about it and owned up to it. Z did not leave Trey hanging. The hair is a huge no no for sure. Did Z tuck tail and run out? No. He is taking shots from the community and rightfully he should be. He is trying to make it right. Does this mean he should be welcomed back with open arms? The answer is no. He needs to keep taking his licks from guys like you and earn his way back into the community. It will Z's actions during and after all this that will determine his worth in this community.

I agree some labs did get shut down for good reason but what about the ones that got shut down with no reason behind it other than its what's best for the forum? I'm not complaining at all we all know how to get ahold of you guys so it really don't matter who's here and who ain't but in my book if your going to be banning people do it to all of them not just a select few... I mean that's on fair right? Also he did come and say he messed up and sent out another bottle better than a lot of sources yes but does that make it right no, I'm sorry if you guys feel attacked or that I'm being rude I'm not at all I'm simply saying if you think it's right for one source to get to stay when others didn't that's just wrong. Heck one source got banned for not having a website? How many of y'all have websites, one got banned for t/a being off even tho he made it right and said sorry "not hammer he's a pos" is that fair for them they made it right as well?
 
Guys with us working our best to keep everyone safe and have reliable sources, bwl is now banned site to serious contamination issues recently.. This one should be well understood..

Working out best guys.. Cheers
 
Totally agree with you Jzp! Contamination issues should never be given a second chance. Thanks to the mods for keeping the guys safe!
 
Totally agree with you Jzp! Contamination issues should never be given a second chance. Thanks to the mods for keeping the guys safe!
Did they post a picture of the bottle, did he send it back to z or who confirmed it? Just wondering I never saw the picture if there was one I have delt with z great guy to bad this had to happen.
 
Did they post a picture of the bottle, did he send it back to z or who confirmed it? Just wondering I never saw the picture if there was one I have delt with z great guy to bad this had to happen.

Yes, pics were posted.
 
Do you really think they will ban PSL from here? Come on......that would be like them getting rid of SARMS1.

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The hair was not a first offense, just sayin. Maybe the first time it was brought to everyones attention. Z replaced a vial for me no questions asked, he was so cool about it and gave me the same " i had ppl helping me" so i told him i wouldn't make a big deal out of it so i never did... Happened twice with 2 diff contamination issues about a year ago
 
The hair was not a first offense, just sayin. Maybe the first time it was brought to everyones attention. Z replaced a vial for me no questions asked, he was so cool about it and gave me the same " i had ppl helping me" so i told him i wouldn't make a big deal out of it so i never did... Happened twice with 2 diff contamination issues about a year ago
BWL already banned bro..
 
Whats up Trey! Haven't heard from you in a bit everything coming along?! I need to make some more of that 200 to shoot your way brother! I'll let you know right when I do K
 
Whats up Trey! Haven't heard from you in a bit everything coming along?! I need to make some more of that 200 to shoot your way brother! I'll let you know right when I do K

I will be waitin like a kid at christmas bmb. Haha i will holla at you tomorrow.
 
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