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Clenbuterol vs. albuterol

Doesn't it harden cardiac muscle, not destroy it? It's really bad either way, another reason I prefer albuterol.

- Does Albuterol elicit the same thermogenic effect as Clenbuterol, and if so, at what dosage does it equal the dramatic fat loss on par with 200mg Clen/day?

- I've heard the heart tissue concerns before, but was always told humans don't administer NEAR enough to raise concern about this effect?

- How can Clenbuterol AND Albuterol be stacked together for best synergy, and does Albuterol need to be cycled or taken with Ketotifen, or no since it isn't a b-2 agonist?

Thanks! :)
 
Star told me no more than 12mga a day on the Albuterol.
He also said you don't need the ketofin. I guess it doesn't shut down the receptors.
 
I hope all of you that are trying it are in single digit fat percentage prior to using something to lower your body fat further.
 
- Does Albuterol elicit the same thermogenic effect as Clenbuterol, and if so, at what dosage does it equal the dramatic fat loss on par with 200mg Clen/day?

- I've heard the heart tissue concerns before, but was always told humans don't administer NEAR enough to raise concern about this effect?

- How can Clenbuterol AND Albuterol be stacked together for best synergy, and does Albuterol need to be cycled or taken with Ketotifen, or no since it isn't a b-2 agonist?

Thanks! :)

Yes, Typically I use 6mg 3 times a day for 18mg total. I put the fat burning of that equivalent to 100mcg good clen, or 200mcg weak clen (depend where you get it, batch, etc.). I get no side effects like shaking or heart palpitations (except when I took 18mg at one time), or cramps. I drop fat well on Albuterol.

I am already doing enough that threatens my heart (left ventricle in particular) that I would rather not risk it! There were 3 studies I know of, Horses, People (with heart failure), and Rats. The ones on horses and rats showed decreased VO2 Max and decreased performance of the heart. The study on people didn't measure that, but showed no cardiac function improvement (what they were looking for to help heart failure patients). The people study was up to 720mcg for 5-46 weeks. Effect of clenbuterol on cardiac and skeletal musc... [J Heart Lung Transplant. 2006] - PubMed result

Also, I don't like the cramps or shakes I get from Clen, I'd rather use Albuterol personally.

I don't know about stacking Clen and Albuterol. I tend to stack albuterol with T3 and an anabolic like Katanadrol 2.0 or EpiStrong for fat burning. It seems to work pretty well. I'd think you could keep the Albuterol at the normal dose, and add in clen on a personal basis, depending on what feels right to your body.

I don't think Albuterol would need ketotifen, I've never used it, and run my cycles ~4 weeks. The Benadryl theory is crap too on that IMO.
 
Albuterol and t3 is a sweet combo. I dont really like clen, its a vasoconstrictor and makes me feel like sh1t when I take it
 
So RS rec's 12mgs a day. What are the vials like from extreme peptides? How do you administer it??

comes with an ORAL syringe brother :chinese:
 
Also....been taking clen for the last few weeks. Is it safe to just switch to Albuterol?

you should be fine, but being that clen downregulated your receptors.. take a week off to let them refresh...
and then jump on albu.

goodluck
 
Just so i'm tracking its 6mg x 60 ml, does that mean each ml=6mg? OR how does the dosing work?
How does a typical newbie cycle look like on this, for example dosing and length. I already know 4-8mg per TID, but how many weeks on vs weeks off?

Thank you
 
Just so i'm tracking its 6mg x 60 ml, does that mean each ml=6mg? OR how does the dosing work?
How does a typical newbie cycle look like on this, for example dosing and length. I already know 4-8mg per TID, but how many weeks on vs weeks off?

Thank you

Yes, 360mg total, or 60 servings of 6ml each. Use an oral syringe to pull out 1ml and there will be 6mg in there. If you want less, use a calculator.

Start with 4mg once a day until it's not enough (~2-3 days), then 4mg twice a day until it's not enough (~3-4 days), then 6mg twice a day (~5-10 days, then you can go up to 6mg three times a day. You can run this about 4 weeks or so. You can take weekends off or something like that to keep fresh.
 
Yep super easy to take, and honestly the taste didn't bother me one bit.
 
Since I interested in this I've got a few more questions, if the community doesn't mind.
1. 4 weeks on, 1 week off, than 4 more weeks?
2. Can you still take a pre-work out like 1MR
3. Can you stack with Need2slin, Gear, and a creatine supplement?
4. Are the pro/carb/fat ratios the same as with clen?
-Just trying to make sure I'm not over extending my internal organs on processing the supps.


Thanks again
 
Since I interested in this I've got a few more questions, if the community doesn't mind.
1. 4 weeks on, 1 week off, than 4 more weeks?
2. Can you still take a pre-work out like 1MR
3. Can you stack with Need2slin, Gear, and a creatine supplement?
4. Are the pro/carb/fat ratios the same as with clen?
-Just trying to make sure I'm not over extending my internal organs on processing the supps.


Thanks again

I do 1 week on/ 1 week off for a total of 8 weeks and take benadryl before I go to sleep on my off weeks to reset my receptors, it works well for me. And you can stack it with anything but phs, I would only use pre-workouts on off weeks. Also, keep carbs low, no more than 100 a day, and protein at least .75g/lb body weight.
 
I have had better results on NTBM stacks over this stuff.... but from reading boards for years people seem to prefer Albuterol's side effects over clen's side effects. I've only taken clen and I loved it at first... but it really wore me down.
 
seems good i ran clen, i get shaky hands, so run it at
week 1/ 20mcg
week 2/ 20mcg
OFF
OFF
Week 5/ 40mcg
week 6/ 40mcg
OFF
OFF
Week 9/ 60mcg
Week 9/ 60mcg
i would go past 60mcg, also DONT USE IT FOR MORE THAN 4MONTHS within a year, its very harsh on ur heart mate
 
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