Current cycle

[Evolve1]

I'm not a newbie and have run these before but just wanted to get some comments on what you think of this short bulking cycle I'm running before summertime cut.

8 week cycle
Week 1-8
Deca 500 mg
Test e 500mg
Week 3,5,7
Proviron
50mg a day
Week 4,6,8
Nolvadex
20mg a day
Weeks 11,12
Clomid
50 mg a day

 

[Evolve1]

I forgot.
I'm 44
6,4
270
15%

 

[muskate]

You NEVER want to use nolvadex with a nandrolone like deca as nolvaex up regulates the progesterone receptor.

You want to use an AI with your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. NOT nolvadex.

Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.

The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

Also your PCT needs an overhaul.

Weeks 1 - 10 <- I would do ATLEAST a 10 week cycle with deca. Deca has a very long half life. 12-16 week cycles of test and deca make the most sense.
testosterone 500mg/week
deca 500mg/week
proviron 50mg/day
aromasin 12.5mg every other day
cabergoline 0.25mg every other day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

That layout is very confusing and actually makes little sense. Deca should never be run for only 8 weeks. You are just getting to peak levels by then so you want to run it 14 weeks or so. I like the test dose at 500mg but would loser the deca to around 300mg per week. Aromasin is necessary to control estrogen and caber is necessary to control prolactin.

Do not run nolva on cycle.....especially with a nandrolone.

For PCT run this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[Evolve1]

I am 2 1/2 weeks into my cycle and I think I blew my shoulder out. If I stop now do I need to do any PCT

 

[Jay Scott]

I am 2 1/2 weeks into my cycle and I think I blew my shoulder out. If I stop now do I need to do any PCT

I would still run a PCT protocol for a few weeks if I were you.

Sorry to hear that dude, it sucks.

 

[Evolve1]

Shoulder was temporary, which is great news but. I am running 10 mg of nolvadex and 25 mg of proviron daily as suggested for the remainder of the cycle. I'm at week 5 and having some serious water retention issues. What should I do? End cycle early?

 

[stevesmi]

have you ran blood work?

nolvadex is NOT an AI.. it is a SERM

you should be using an AI like aromasin or liquidex. you can go to ag-guys right away and get it or n2bm

 

[pipergirl]

I'am just curious as to why people are recommending 10mg Aromasin EOD when it comes at 12.5mg?

 

[stevesmi]

I'am just curious as to why people are recommending 10mg Aromasin EOD when it comes at 12.5mg?

ag-guys and roidmass sell it at 10mg/ml

i know if you buy pharm grade it is 25mg/ml

 

[Evolve1]

What dosage do you recommend for liquidex?

 

[Evolve1]

Is liquiaromas from argues the same as aromasin but liquid? If so what dosage to use?

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Ag guys not argues

 

[muskate]

Is liquiaromas from argues the same as aromasin but liquid? If so what dosage to use?

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Ag guys not argues

Liquidaromas = aromasin. Correct

Ag-guys.com doses their liquidaromas (aromasin) at 15mg/mL.

0.67mL = 10mg of aromasin
0.75mL = 12.5mg of aromasin

 

[Evolve1]

Order placed. Thank You