Cycle Advice

[Tinkz]

Heey!

After almost 1 and a half month i´ve reached my goal, which is getting to 12% bodyfat. Yesterday it measured it at the gym and it was 11.9%.

Im now ready to start a new cycle which is aiming for lean muscle mass, i really hate looking bloated like every dbol guy does so therefor i prefer having that still cut look while building lean muscle mass. My plan already is to go with Test c 400mg/week, why test c is that i´ve heard that its the same as test e and where i live test c is cheaper.

All i know right now is going for 400 mg/week test c, I feel that i need something more then just test c, maybe an oral? Anyway i´d really appreciate tips and knowledge.

I´ve got everything i need for that perfect pct and aromasin which ill run on cycle.

 

[Tadeas]

Congratulations on getting your bodyfat down, well done!

Here is a sample cycle with TE+Oral:

Week 1-6
Testosterone Enanthate 400mgs/week
Anavar 50mgs/day
Aromasin 10mgs/every other day
N2Guard 5 capsules/day

Week 7-12
Testosterone Enanthate 400mgs/week
Aromasin 10mgs/every other day
N2Guard 3 capsules/day

Followed by a 6 week PCT.

 

[muskate]

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle. It's very similar to an 18 year old having their first drink. A single drink really hits them because they have never drank before. However, a more experienced drinker would need much more alcohol to get the same effect.

This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone cypionate 400mg/week (dose 200mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need for the protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

Testosterone cypionate and enanthate both have long haft lives, 7 days and 10 days respectively and be used interchangeably.

 

[LevButlerov]

I completely agree with @muskate - bodybuilding, especially the chemically enhanced one, is about being gradual and patient. The best results will come slowly, and those comming fast will disappear just as fast. Therefore, it would be best to keep it simple, and to run a testosterone solo cycle with all the proper ancillaries and a very good PCT. I see that money is an issue for you, so instead of spending money on a second compound that you don't really need, better invest it into a very good PCT, such as suggested by @muskate. You will have some pretty amazing results from test alone, and if you use all of the ancillaries and run a good PCT, they will be lean and keepable.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Congrats. Just keep it basic as muskate already stated.

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[Tinkz]

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle. It's very similar to an 18 year old having their first drink. A single drink really hits them because they have never drank before. However, a more experienced drinker would need much more alcohol to get the same effect.

This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone cypionate 400mg/week (dose 200mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need for the protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

Testosterone cypionate and enanthate both have long haft lives, 7 days and 10 days respectively and be used interchangeably.

I´ve done my cycle, the 400 mg test c and the perfect pct. I got great results and meanwhile i was on my pct I went on a diet to lose some of the fat and water i gained.

I was really glad to see that i had increased in muscle size, I noticed it from seeing myself in the mirror and my weight is higher than before when i was 11% bodyfat. Anyway Im done with my pct and i feel great! Im really thankful for using this perfect pct, i did not crash or felt any depression after the cycle.

Im ready for my 2nd cycle, im not sure what to go for but i´d like to try something new, an oral perhaps? Test e/c + Oral is what im going for, but im not sure which oral. I´ve heard alot about dbol but that is something im not interested in, i mean that look people have on dbol, it disgusts me. I dont like being bloated.

I rather go for something that can let me stay lean meanwhile building muscle mass.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Make sure to wait at least 18 weeks from pct completion before starting your next cycle. Why not try an oral lie tbol? It will give you big strength gains like dbol but is much more mild and won't cause bloat. Here is a layout and a link to an article comparing dbol and tbol...

Weeks 1-12
Test E or C 500mg
Aromasin 10mg EOD

Weeks 1-6
Tbol 40mg ED
N2Guad 7 caps ED

Perfect pct - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct
Article - http://www.evolutionary.org/dianabol-vs-turinabol-comparison

 

[Tinkz]

Make sure to wait at least 18 weeks from pct completion before starting your next cycle. Why not try an oral lie tbol? It will give you big strength gains like dbol but is much more mild and won't cause bloat. Here is a layout and a link to an article comparing dbol and tbol...

Weeks 1-12
Test E or C 500mg
Aromasin 10mg EOD

Weeks 1-6
Tbol 40mg ED
N2Guad 7 caps ED

Perfect pct - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct
Article - http://www.evolutionary.org/dianabol-vs-turinabol-comparison

I´ve taken the time to read about tbol and it seems like an Oral for me. The question that I have is why should I wait 18 weeks after the finished pct?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Ideally you want to wait at least the amount of time you were on to begin another cycle. Time on plus pct equals time off. This allow your body to fully recover. A 12 week cycle plus 6 week pct would mean you want to wait 18 weeks between cycle. You can certainly bridge between cycles with sarms though.

 

[muskate]

Ideally you want to wait at least the amount of time you were on to begin another cycle. Time on plus pct equals time off. This allow your body to fully recover. A 12 week cycle plus 6 week pct would mean you want to wait 18 weeks between cycle. You can certainly bridge between cycles with sarms though.

This is what I would do.

1. Run your cycle.
2. After your cycle run a good pct protocol such as the perfect PCT: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
3. After the PCT protocol, run a SARMS bridge - such as the SARMS triple stack: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
4. After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day
5. Then wait 3-4 weeks, ideally get blood work done to make sure everything is in the normal range and start your next cycle.

With doing 1-5 you will continue growing off cycle and your natural testosterone production won't be suppressed. It is a healthier route all around.

You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

 

[LevButlerov]

I´ve taken the time to read about tbol and it seems like an Oral for me. The question that I have is why should I wait 18 weeks after the finished pct?

Tbol is a really good choice for you. As for the 18 weeks, your body needs to work by itself for some time in order to keep all the structures functioning. If not, you may shut your HPTA permanently, which is not good. Let your body have some rest, because even the PCT is a stress in itself. Usually, the golden rule of thumb is that the time off = cycle time + PCT. Hence, if you did 12 weeks of cycle + 6 weeks on PCT, you get a needed rest of 18 weeks.